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Old 04-07-2016, 11:46
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But what if you live in the country yet want to see a race in person? It works two ways tbh...

I have nothing against whether it's electric or not. I'll watch it regardless of what's in the engine. Although having the car running when there's 0% battery is silly IMO. The battery should be like fuel, if your battery level gets to zero, you should just trundle to a halt...
Maybe it's a safety issue. If the battery really runs down to 0%, they'll get stuck out on track or be a slow-moving hazard. Setting a 'pretend-0%' before real 0% allows them to get out of the way.
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Old 04-07-2016, 11:51
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The battery still working at 0% is a safety issue and is done deliberately as a false zero. It's done so a car doesn't grind to a halt in a fast section or in a corner and cause an accident. Hitting zero is a penalty though as a drive through (in the event of it happening to car 1) or as a time penalty (for the end of the race).
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Old 04-07-2016, 12:14
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That having it in cities to reduce any environmental impact, is just nonsense in my view.
Be honest, I could not care about any of the environmental aspects or the batteries either, to me its a fun racing series with a great app, through season features and one of the most enjoyable commentary teams out there.
You don't believe that there's an environmental impact having an event in the middle of nowhere, that can't be accessed by public transport?

If 30,000 people go to a BTCC event, then it is likely that that 15,000 car journeys have been made to get them there. If 30,000 people went to Battersea over the weekend, then the number of car journeys would have been in the low hundreds. That's a massive difference.

Of all the UK circuits only Brands Hatch and Croft are served by public transport, and Brands is only Monday-Friday.
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Old 04-07-2016, 13:33
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I think you'll find public transport also causes pollution. Putting it somewhere that's harder to get to is hardly helping it either way.

I'd watch it more if I knew it was on. Missed this one again entirely. But from what I remember although some of the street circuits are okay Battersea is appalling.
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Old 04-07-2016, 13:55
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Force India knew they had brake problems with both cars yet were informed they couldn't tell the drivers about it due to the radio restrictions....... That seems stupid to me.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ban-complaints

Like I said last week I have no issue with the ban on teams giving drivers info such as braking points, what gear to be in etc.... But surely when it comes to things like brake issues that could lead to an actual brake failure & accident they should be able to warn drivers about it.
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Old 04-07-2016, 14:25
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Of all the UK circuits only Brands Hatch and Croft are served by public transport, and Brands is only Monday-Friday.
Silverstone runs a bus shuttle service over the F1 weekend providing connections to the national public transport service. Accepted, if they banned car access totally then it would be a more usable and attractive option but it shows the fallacy of the eco-transport argument. In fact it is greener to ship all your camping needs in by car and stay put for the whole weekend than travel back and forth for three / four days otherwise needed on public transport. Did they allow weekend camping in Battersea Park?
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Old 04-07-2016, 16:49
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Silverstone runs a bus shuttle service over the F1 weekend providing connections to the national public transport service. Accepted, if they banned car access totally then it would be a more usable and attractive option but it shows the fallacy of the eco-transport argument. In fact it is greener to ship all your camping needs in by car and stay put for the whole weekend than travel back and forth for three / four days otherwise needed on public transport. Did they allow weekend camping in Battersea Park?
Remember all the howls of derision when Donington suggested everybody should Park and Ride or use coaches to get there for the GP?
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Old 04-07-2016, 17:04
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That is the other argument of course: Motor-racing fans tend to prefer to use their own cars to travel (even if it is less than walking pace queuing to get in). Looking forward to the usual diversion bottlenecks round here this coming week-end.
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Old 04-07-2016, 17:28
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Force India knew they had brake problems with both cars yet were informed they couldn't tell the drivers about it due to the radio restrictions....... That seems stupid to me.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ban-complaints

Like I said last week I have no issue with the ban on teams giving drivers info such as braking points, what gear to be in etc.... But surely when it comes to things like brake issues that could lead to an actual brake failure & accident they should be able to warn drivers about it.
Stupidity in the extreme!
Braking issues on cars doing 200+mph and the morons at the FIA think not allowing the teams to tell drivers is a bad thing!
I can't wait to see how they try and explain that stupidity away when a driver gets seriously injured or even killed because of the backward FIA radio rules!
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Old 04-07-2016, 17:31
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Public transport to a motor racing event, no thanks.
Remember in the late 1980s and early 1990s, the Jaguar era at Le Mans, we drove down a couple of those years of our twenty or so we visited in convoy in my 1970s 911 RS and an AC cobra (think it did about 5mpg) that my best friend and his garage owning brother were rebuilding and a souped up Ford Transit (with the tents, loo, camping gear, spare car parts and of course plenty of car oil and water) that year along with the many Jaguar d types (that came out of the woodwork) and the noise, dirty oil, dirty fuel smells were just delicious and there were plenty of long traffic queues then too to exacerbate it.
Sorry could not resist, some of the best memories are hard to forget and change is not always for the better
We did grow up a bit in the mid 90s as well as Le Mans when we started going every year to F1 at Spa, Hockenheim and Magny Cours and then moved up taking a number of Rvs, best being the Fleetwood Discovery RV.
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Old 04-07-2016, 20:13
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But what if you live in the country yet want to see a race in person? It works two ways tbh...

I have nothing against whether it's electric or not. I'll watch it regardless of what's in the engine. Although having the car running when there's 0% battery is silly IMO. The battery should be like fuel, if your battery level gets to zero, you should just trundle to a halt...
Maybe it's a safety issue. If the battery really runs down to 0%, they'll get stuck out on track or be a slow-moving hazard. Setting a 'pretend-0%' before real 0% allows them to get out of the way.
The battery still working at 0% is a safety issue and is done deliberately as a false zero. It's done so a car doesn't grind to a halt in a fast section or in a corner and cause an accident. Hitting zero is a penalty though as a drive through (in the event of it happening to car 1) or as a time penalty (for the end of the race).
I believe it's an equality thing - the batteries are spec, but there are going to be variances between battery cells. If you went to absolute zero, you'd find some cars able to use more energy than others.

IMO, the limits are no different to those if F1 - there is a maximum fuel/energy limit, and a maximum fuel/energy rate limit.
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Old 05-07-2016, 08:01
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Nice video from FOM on the website analysing the HAM/ROS collision. They've done a compare of racing lines between the final & previous lap:
http://i.imgur.com/6A4BHPD.jpg
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Old 05-07-2016, 08:51
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Nice video from FOM on the website analysing the HAM/ROS collision. They've done a compare of racing lines between the final & previous lap:
http://i.imgur.com/6A4BHPD.jpg
This one?
https://www.formula1.com/en/video/20...explained.html
Not bad, they are slowly getting better at doing them. Much prefer the way Ant does it though with the skypad.
Why does F1 not put all those videos listed on their main website on youtube, be a better place for them. Their website/app video player is pretty awful and lack of any chromecast ability on the app does not help.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:23
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Some really good behind the scenes stuff on sky sports news from Craig today,
He is at Brackley today and said there will a lot more over the next few days.
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Old 05-07-2016, 18:28
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It looks like we have seen the end of Motors TV now.
It has stopped broadcasting on Astra and has gone from the Sky EPG, five weeks after being put into receivership but a French court.
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Old 05-07-2016, 18:36
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It looks like we have seen the end of Motors TV now.
It has stopped broadcasting on Astra and has gone from the Sky EPG, five weeks after being put into receivership but a French court.
Yet they're still valiantly tweeting lol
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Old 05-07-2016, 20:34
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Virgin Media have a "OOPS! We are currently experiencing technical difficulties and cannot bring you this channel at this present time." message on screen.
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Old 05-07-2016, 22:50
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It looks like we have seen the end of Motors TV now.
It has stopped broadcasting on Astra and has gone from the Sky EPG, five weeks after being put into receivership but a French court.
It's 23:45 CET and I'm still able to watch on "cable" in NL

FIA EUROPEAN TRUCK RACING CHAMPIONSHIP RD 4 NURBURGRING - REPLAY on just now, so I presume it's only a satellite transmission problem.
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Old 05-07-2016, 23:20
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MotorsTV leaving everyone (in UK) in the dark yet again...
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:30
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Any idea if MotorsTV will be back soon like the hiatus earlier in the year???

Tuned in last night for the highlights of last weekend's sportscar race @ Watkins Glenn and zilch, no sign anywhere.
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Old 06-07-2016, 13:01
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My highlight of Channel 4's coverage of Austria was them showing Hamilton the incident between him and Rosberg. It was the first time he had seen it. His eyes immediately lit up (and his tone of voice changed from downbeat to exalted) as he saw just how much room he'd left Rosberg, how ahead of Rosberg he was, how late Rosberg breaked and how Rosberg didn't give him room to reenter the track.
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Old 06-07-2016, 13:12
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... Tuned in last night for the highlights of last weekend's sportscar race @ Watkins Glen and zilch, no sign anywhere.
If you have 5 hours to spare, you can watch the race on the IMSA Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/UnitedSportsCar/videos
They've broken it up into 2 two and a half hour videos.

I should add that the race was streamed live for free as usual on the IMSA site (outside the US) when the race was on 3.00PM-9.30PM UK time. The stream was plagued with problems last Sunday and wasn't really watchable until approximately the 4th hour of the race.
IMSA live video steam: http://imsatv.imsa.com/

Next Sunday's race at Mosport, Canada starts at 4.00PM UK time, and is 2hr 40mins in duration.
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Old 06-07-2016, 14:04
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... no idea what FE crowd numbers are but other than the Mexico race I doubt they're very large...
42,000 spectators attended the Formula E London ePrix last weekend, although I don't know if that's for one or both days. Ticketmaster claimed approximately 30,000 tickets were available for each day.

I went last year and again this year, and as an extremely casual motorsport fan I have to admit I love it.
The atmosphere is brilliant, festival like at times, and having it in the centre of London makes it very accessible. The tickets prices are also very reasonable, unlike F1. Generally I feel it’s incredibly well organised, right down to everyone being given a ‘fan radio’ earpiece on entrance which makes following the day’s events and race itself very easy. Personally I’d like to see similar at F1.
I do agree that a lot of the ‘city races’ aren’t actually city races – London being the best example of this. Admittedly although it’s in the centre of London it could be in any park in any city if it wasn’t for the occasional wide aerial shots.

But if there isn’t a London event (street or park) next year I’ll be disappointed as its becoming a bit of an annual thing for me. And I admit it’s looking unlikely right now. Especially as they’ve now confirmed New York will take over as the host of the end of season double-header (subject to final local approval) next season.

Oh, and finally, their online coverage is also very good. From online live coverage to 50 and 15 minute race highlights on YouTube.
Formula E management really do a very good job at making the sport so accessible in so many ways.
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Old 06-07-2016, 17:39
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Speaking of Formula E, anyone know if ITV will have the rights to the 2016/17 season?
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Old 06-07-2016, 19:41
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Speaking of Formula E, anyone know if ITV will have the rights to the 2016/17 season?
Rights haven't been awarded for next season yet.

There will be an event in the UK, but they haven't announced where.
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