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F1 Coverage - The Verdict: 2016 Season
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tasker
10-07-2016
So Rosberg is the badie and gets booed by the crowd (so ashamed of that), please explain why it was ok for Hamilton to do it in Austin but Rosberg can't do it in Austria??
He did exactly the same thing but nobody sems to remember that.
Cannot stand him, hes sulky, bitches, moans and throws the toys out when he doesn't get what he wants.
He gets the red mist and drives dangerously, he is the Tiger Woods of F1.
And i don't care if it is un-british, cannot stand him, especially when he can do something like he did in Austin yet nobody dare say a word against him.
lettice
10-07-2016
Brundle was again quite miserable with the way some of these rules are going, starting the race under safety car and the Nico radio investigation.
Do agree though, the safety car start was a joke, it was a few light showers and they should sort out this radio comms fiasco.
Whatever happened to Bernie's comments a few years back of throwing water on the track to liven it up.
Must have been many very disappointed paying fans on the pit straight seeing such a start to the race.
Sad to hear those British fans booing Nico, that was poor.
Did not think that race was good, compared to so many better ones we have seen this year.
F1 timing had quite a bit of trouble on the official W10/android apps just after the safety car went in.
Radio comms on the app has got to the extent on there it should be a free option.
Webber did a poor set of podium interviews there.
_SpeedRacer_
10-07-2016
The thing is by keeping the safety car out it creates a very dangerous situation in the pits with everyone diving in for inters because it stays out far too long. Amazed some of those unsafe releases weren't investigated.
gomezz
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by scardis:
“You'll never get "pressure" questions on the podium though, it's not the place for it.”

I was referring to verbal diarrheal and running several questions together.
popeye13
10-07-2016
The booing is shambolic and has to stop! No need for it in Austria and no need for here and the 'fans' booing are no fans of F1 IMHO!

Red Bull crying like babies yet again, it really is pathetic of them!
The radio rules are childish. Yes, banning coaching like Rosberg loved, but telling a driver how, like today with Rosberg, how to correct an issue, should not be banned from radio. Its wrecking races, its taking away from a good race where drivers had to be on their very best game to cope with a wet track, but instead of talking about that, we're yet again talking about the radio ban!
Time Charlie retired, because his silliness, with the radio ban plus the SC start made today something less than it should have been!

Originally Posted by tasker:
“So Rosberg is the badie and gets booed by the crowd (so ashamed of that), please explain why it was ok for Hamilton to do it in Austin but Rosberg can't do it in Austria??
He did exactly the same thing but nobody sems to remember that.
Cannot stand him, hes sulky, bitches, moans and throws the toys out when he doesn't get what he wants.
He gets the red mist and drives dangerously, he is the Tiger Woods of F1.
And i don't care if it is un-british, cannot stand him, especially when he can do something like he did in Austin yet nobody dare say a word against him.”

Hamilton got booed in Austria don't forget and if anyone is the sulky bitch, its Rosberg!
Wheel banging is common place in open wheel racing cars, but you seem to have forgotten that and the coming togethers was started by Rosberg, in Spa, when he cut across and cut Hamilton's tyre wrecking his race!

You make Austin out to be something like Spain, where Hamilton was very much at fault, so me thinks you need to go and have a look at everything before you make silly comments!

As for being dangerous, please!!!!! Hyperbole in the highest there mate!
tomhourigan
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by lettice:
“Whatever happened to Bernie's comments a few years back of throwing water on the track to liven it up.”

It may be until the introduction of the Halo, race control just won't entertain the possibility of running in conditions where there's even the slight risk that another Bianchi incident occurs.
TheSubaru2012
10-07-2016
At least C4 didn't do a BT with the 3 person commentary team.

You'll be surprised to say by this comment though because C4 is not the first lot to try a 3 man commentary out of the UK broadcasters, BBC Radio 5 Live have done a 3 man commentary team for some races including Russia and this race. Russia had Nichols, Gallagher and Clarkson in the box whilst today had Nichols, McNish and Clarkson in the commentary box.

My opinion is that a 3 man commentary works if you use the correct people, a commentary of Croft, Hill and Herby would go down in flames in pretty much every forum site. It will basically be the equivalent of Fletch, Owe and Sav... Here's a team that will work:

C4: Edwards, Coulthard, Webber
Sky: Croft, Brundle Davidson/Di Resta

Infact i'm surprised Davidson hasn't been given a promotion considering he has be fantastic on the Skypad when available.
gomezz
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by popeye13:
“The radio rules are childish. Yes, banning coaching like Rosberg loved, but telling a driver how, like today with Rosberg, how to correct an issue, should not be banned from radio. Its wrecking races, its taking away from a good race where drivers had to be on their very best game to cope with a wet track, but instead of talking about that, we're yet again talking about the radio ban”

I agree the radio ban has gone too far but for the sake of consistency over a racing season, if Hamilton was not allowed to be told how to fix the engine mode problem he had in Baku then Rosberg should not be told how to manage the gearbox problem he had today.
DanManF1
10-07-2016
I understand there was a lot happening, but I'm not sure I agree with FOM's decision to cut to the pit lane as soon as the SC went in. At that point, I'd have preferred to see how the drivers who stayed out were getting on.

Crofty had a decent race today, which was much needed, yet I'm sure some people will find any excuse to complain. Brundle was as great as always. Will listen back to C4's commentary at some point. Nice idea to put Mark in the box.
mjr
10-07-2016
Had the choice of both, but went with the C4 race coverage today and wasn't disappointed. (Though I did flick back and forth with Sky pre-race, and got to watch both grid walks as I was recording both - mainly interviewed the same people IIRC.)

Enjoyed the commentary particularly with Webber's input, and the post-race is shaping up well too. I don't know how it compared to Sky, but it was a really refreshing change and they seem to be a solid team now. (Yes was a bit of a slip-up of Edwards to describe the SC start as a parade lap, but it's hardly the worst mistake I've heard in commentary.)
Jules 1
10-07-2016
Of course it was wrong for a few British fans to boo Nico, but it was equally wrong for the Austrian fans to boo Lewis, but there was no condemnation of that last week. Strange that.

Good to see Lewis beating Nico today, in a fair fight.

Onto the broadcasting aspect, after all it is the broadcasting thread. Good coverage today by Channel 4, and Mark Webber was great in the comms box.
Jules 1
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“I agree the radio ban has gone too far but for the sake of consistency over a racing season, if Hamilton was not allowed to be told how to fix the engine mode problem he had in Baku then Rosberg should not be told how to manage the gearbox problem he had today.”

I think the main thing we need is consistency.
popeye13
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“I agree the radio ban has gone too far but for the sake of consistency over a racing season, if Hamilton was not allowed to be told how to fix the engine mode problem he had in Baku then Rosberg should not be told how to manage the gearbox problem he had today.”

Agreed.
But from a Merc perspective, Rosberg was about to suffer a failure, a terminal failure whereas Hamilton wasn't so that is their argument currently!

Also, according to the Sky Sports Android app, Rosberg will go before the stewards at 4pm and so i don't expect an outcome until maybe 4:45pm at the earliest!
gomezz
10-07-2016
Sounds like any penalty then will be a grid place drop at the next race?
stono
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by scardis:
“Interestingly it was shown at the start exactly why the safety car starts came in, Spa 97. With the abolition of T cars it means FIA want to protect these cars even more.”

we havent had spare cars for a while and its not been a consideration before, I just think post Bianchi/Japan, the F1 race director will always now take the safest option which means safety cars/virtual safety cars etc, and that probably means there will never be any wet weather standing starts anymore.

whether the F1 press have spotted thats whats happening but dont want to say it out loud I dont know.

but the Porsche Supercup race had a similar grid rain shower, albeit far less heavy rain but they started behind the safety car too. equally by delaying the race start by 15mins actually meant they could have started normally.

and race control will argue look the drivers were still spearing off the road throughout the race through aquaplaning, so there call was right

maybe they just need to tweak the pit rules so that cars cant dive into the pits to change tyres immediately once the race goes green as that does make a nonsense of things.
scardis
10-07-2016
I think that's optimistic, sometime after 6 is what I'd expect for a stewards decision
aurichie
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“Sounds like any penalty then will be a grid place drop at the next race?”

There won't be a penalty. The communication was on safety grounds to prevent a catastrophic failure. Mercedes will take them to court if they even try to pull any stunts in the UK to help their darling Lewis.
gomezz
10-07-2016
What catastrophe?
popeye13
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“There won't be a penalty. The communication was on safety grounds to prevent a catastrophic failure. Mercedes will take them to court if they even try to pull any stunts in the UK to help their darling Lewis.”

LOL, LOL, LOL!!!

No, just, no!!
Echo1
10-07-2016
That was a boring race.
gomezz
10-07-2016
I disagree. But it would have been even more exciting if they had not chickened out with the SC start.
Echo1
10-07-2016
I'm not a Hamilton fan...
aurichie
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“I disagree. But it would have been even more exciting if they had not chickened out with the SC start.”

My heart sinks now whenever it rains just before the start because you know the race will start under the SC.
mjr
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by Wash:
“I'm not a Hamilton fan...”

Nor am I particularly but there was plenty else to enjoy in this race. Not least a storming drive from Verstappen.
DanManF1
10-07-2016
Originally Posted by Wash:
“I'm not a Hamilton fan...”

I'm a Ferrari fan and even I thought it was still a great race...
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