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There won't be a penalty. The communication was on safety grounds to prevent a catastrophic failure. Mercedes will take them to court if they even try to pull any stunts in the UK to help their darling Lewis.
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At least C4 didn't do a BT with the 3 person commentary team.
You'll be surprised to say by this comment though because C4 is not the first lot to try a 3 man commentary out of the UK broadcasters, BBC Radio 5 Live have done a 3 man commentary team for some races including Russia and this race. Russia had Nichols, Gallagher and Clarkson in the box whilst today had Nichols, McNish and Clarkson in the commentary box. My opinion is that a 3 man commentary works if you use the correct people, a commentary of Croft, Hill and Herby would go down in flames in pretty much every forum site. It will basically be the equivalent of Fletch, Owe and Sav... Here's a team that will work: C4: Edwards, Coulthard, Webber Sky: Croft, Brundle Davidson/Di Resta Infact i'm surprised Davidson hasn't been given a promotion considering he has be fantastic on the Skypad when available. |
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Nor am I particularly but there was plenty else to enjoy in this race. Not least a storming drive from Verstappen.
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10 Second time penalty for Rosberg - Drops to 3rd in the official race result
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Diabolical decision will be appealed surely?
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Diabolical decision will be appealed surely?
They have entered an appeal FWIW: http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/me...enalty-797656/ |
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Break the rules and occur a fairly innocuous ten-second penalty, or don't break the rules and suffer a potential retirement? I think I know what I'd do.
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Poor race. Disgusted at the safety car start. Red tape gone all mad.
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I think it'll be overturned on appeal. There are specific clauses that clearly state radio communication is permitted in safety situations, where a car may be about to fail. It just feels like a British stewarding penalty designed to help Hamilton.
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Diabolical decision will be appealed surely?
No, it was clearly breaking the silly rules, but it is breaking the rules, so please eh! |
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I think it'll be overturned on appeal. There are specific clauses that clearly state radio communication is permitted in safety situations, where a car may be about to fail. It just feels like a British stewarding penalty designed to help Hamilton.
As for the conspiracy theory... smh. |
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It just feels like a British stewarding penalty designed to help Hamilton.
*rolls eyes* |
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Well word has it that these types of penalties can't be appealed anyway, apparently.
As for the conspiracy theory... smh. |
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Yes, because without the 10 second Penalty, Hamilton will now clearly win the race...
*rolls eyes* |
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Pleased that my suggestion of using Mark Webber during the race by Ch4/WF was acted upon, seems to have had a good response.
Le Mans 2016 had a similar prolonged start behind the safety car, this was due to standing water collecting in the ridged kerbs, resulting in the cars aquaplaning straight off the track during free practice. I think people have forgotten Nurburging 2007 where Hamilton, Rosberg and a load of other drivers sailed off the circuit at the same turn. Enjoyed listening to Jack and Allan today when I had some chores to do. Jack was a bit cheeky to say 'you're a fool!' if you switch over to listen to the tennis on 5live. I'll watch the Ch4 highlights later, hopefully. ----- IMSA @ Mosport: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() fabulous roller coaster of a track!
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Mercedes have appealed.
They have informed the FIA they intend to appeal but are to consider if they will or not, as per the rules, something you seem to be clueless on! |
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Wrong!
They have informed the FIA they intend to appeal but are to consider if they will or not, as per the rules, something you seem to be clueless on!
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There's no way this decision will stand up. Toto explained Mercedes decision very clearly on Sky and there is no doubt the communication is within the guidelines. If they really can't appeal it then that really is disgusting.
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I think people have forgotten Nurburging 2007 where Hamilton, Rosberg and a load of other drivers sailed off the circuit at the same turn
Even if a SC start was justified today (not sure it was, as others have said it was not exactly the wettest we've ever seen a session even in recent times let alone historically) it only needed a couple of laps for the drivers to see where the water was worst. As ever it seems clear to me that the barometer is if everyone is ditching their inters as soon as the SC comes in then the SC stayed out too long. On a segue, can't help feeling F1's been unlucky the past two weekends. Both Austria and Britain had epic rounds of the GP2 where it started raining but not heavily enough to warrant inters/wets, so they had to scrabble around on slicks which made for extremely exciting racing. But for timing that could have happened in the F1 races, but it didn't, so we got a reasonably exciting race without ever actually being a classic. |
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On a segue, can't help feeling F1's been unlucky the past two weekends. Both Austria and Britain had epic rounds of the GP2 where it started raining but not heavily enough to warrant inters/wets, so they had to scrabble around on slicks which made for extremely exciting racing. But for timing that could have happened in the F1 races, but it didn't, so we got a reasonably exciting race without ever actually being a classic.
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Did Ben just say that 6th was Perez best result?
Really? |
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Did Ben just say that 6th was Perez best result?
Really? |
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Telling Rosberg to avoid 7th gear and to shift through it is a clear violation of the rules!
Deal with it However, its not Nico's fault, surely the penalty should come off the constructors points ? ( and enough to make a difference, not a token 5 or 10 points !) |
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Even if a SC start was justified today (not sure it was, as others have said it was not exactly the wettest we've ever seen a session even in recent times let alone historically) it only needed a couple of laps for the drivers to see where the water was worst.
As ever it seems clear to me that the barometer is if everyone is ditching their inters as soon as the SC comes in then the SC stayed out too long. The other thing they could have done is simply delayed the start 10 minutes. I know they're under pressure not to do that, but if it allowed a proper start it would have made a better race. |
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Am I right in thinking there's no way to watch entire races/sessions on demand from Sky, they only put up highlights?
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