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F1 Coverage - The Verdict: 2016 Season
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alexj2002
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by DEmberton:
“Every single discussion about this has included talk about what happens if the car turns over.

They don't catch fire anymore, fortunately. So even if a driver is trapped inside an upside down car he's not in any danger.”

Did I miss the sarcasm here?
Forza Ferrari
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by popeye13:
“Childish how Sky apologised for Toto Wolff saying 'balls out'
I mean seriously?!?!!!!

No reason to say sorry for that, at all!”


Disagree. David Coulthard used to say balls all the time it was fairy crass. He was always swearing.
thestig88
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by stefmeister:
“FOM seem to have found a magnifying tool:
https://flic.kr/p/KwRnov”

WOW ! Another ground breaking innovation from FOM....oh wait its not! Only taken them 20+ years.

NOTE: Why no "Local Driver" Special Onboards anymore? Years gone by a driver at his home event would carry a special cam i.e. Helmet facing, Mirror cam etc. FOM can't even be bothered to fit a nose cam to, for e.g. Werhleins car this weekend instead of it perennially being on a Merc or Ferrari. Mix it up a bit FOM!
scardis
30-07-2016
Wasn't there a camera on a wire down at the hairpin two years ago?
thestig88
30-07-2016
It used to be one of the bespoke angles of the season (the German GP zip wire cam), which then found its way to other events.
solarflare
30-07-2016
Absolutely LOVING GP2 this year. Think that was the 4th belting feature race in a row! Alex Jacques has a slightly ponderous commentary nature when it's all calm, but when it kicks off and gets exciting he really flows well and is great to listen to. His "He's taken the lead!" when Sirotkin was racing Marciello in the early laps oddly reminded me of Murray's line from the original F1 PS1 game, for some reason.

Although he's slightly incomprehensible at times (and says "Yeah you're right" literally every single time he speaks) I love Davide Valsecchi's natural enthusiasm for the sport and he seems like a genuinely nice guy.
mjr
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by solarflare:
“Although he's slightly incomprehensible at times (and says "Yeah you're right" literally every single time he speaks) I love Davide Valsecchi's natural enthusiasm for the sport and he seems like a genuinely nice guy.”

I agree, he's a great addition to the coverage. Anyone that can get that enthusiastic about a motor race whilst speaking a second language must really love the sport!
stefmeister
31-07-2016
Either FOM have reworked the data channel since I last saw it or this is something new?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ComfzqwWAAAqqLY.jpg

Either way fans should be getting that rather than the current outdated timing screen.
F1-Addict
31-07-2016
Despite long being my favourite member of the Sky team, Ted has become a bit of an arse lately. He made the absolutely bizarre accusation of placing the blame for Hamilton's unsafe release at Grosjean who he said was "barrelling down the pit lane".. at the 62mph speed limit denoted by the rules I might add.

He then (not for the first time this season) presented a misquote to an interviewee to get a reaction, except Horner called him out saying he "kept trying to wind things up". The Notebook later featured his reoccurring conspiracy theory that Mercedes favour a German winning in a German car, a theory he put to James Allen only for James to quash it just as the Sky team did at Monaco.

Perhaps the most frustrating instance was his repeated assertion throughout the latter stages of the Austrian GP that Mercedes should tell Rosberg to let Hamilton by because it wasn't fair on Lewis that Nico got the undercut, something he later pressed Toto on only to be shot down with "You're getting things wrong here Ted".

As much as I love Ted and while he's still up there with Brundle and Davidson on input, I feel like he's slowly becoming a caricature of himself and maybe needs to rein it in a bit on the theories and refocus on the technical aspects of the sport which are getting left behind/completely absent. The qualifying Notebook's still top notch mind, shame it's up against the clock.

Once again the addition of Anthony and the absence of Johnny have led to a noticeable improvement in the coverage this weekend but by and large the coverage feels increasingly stale as time progress. Unfortunately I get the impression Sky have no intention of changing how they're doing things which would compare suitably with their channel; unimaginative, repetitive, full of filler, lacking in investment and looking a pale shadow of it's promise in 2012.

I'll add to the positive comments on Alex and Davide on GP2 commentary. Buxton was always going to be a hard act to follow but Alex has more than filled the void and Davide is enthusiastic and knowledgable in equal measure, a good pairing befitting of the great racing in the series this season.
popeye13
31-07-2016
I said a while back that Sky won't change anything about their coverage, much the same as their football coverage, which hasn't changed in over 20 years!
F1 will remain that same stale pit it is now, with tired old pundits that talk the same bollocks and expect us to be riveted by the thrilling conversation!
Sky's coverage is so bad now, i watch the quali & race coverage and nothing else, i watch no pre or post race coverage apart from the Notebook which i record and watch later!
Hill and Herbert were fun to begin with, but they're tired, wornout and trotting off the same lines about the same drivers and becoming jokes!
What tipped it for me was Herbert calling for Alonso to retire!
The man is a joke and he fits Sky perfectly because they like sham-excuses for pundits, who offer nothing and waste the airtime!
Look at their football coverage for proof of this!!

Rant over!
Frank Furt
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by F1-Addict:
“Despite long being my favourite member of the Sky team...”

Have to agree unfortunately. Must be tempting to try to whip up a story but it's tiresome. Maybe everyone just needs the summer break to recharge.

OT Enjoyed jdn123 slipping "full-power laps, or rather super-soft laps" into FP coverage on 5Live. Nice bit of F1/FE crossover.
D.M.N.
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by stefmeister:
“Either FOM have reworked the data channel since I last saw it or this is something new?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ComfzqwWAAAqqLY.jpg

Either way fans should be getting that rather than the current outdated timing screen.”

Jack Nicholls on Twitter said that commentators have seen that page all season
solarflare
31-07-2016
In GP2 - sometimes DRS is enabled directly after a VSC, sometimes it's a couple of laps. Or is it just me?
_SpeedRacer_
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by solarflare:
“In GP2 - sometimes DRS is enabled directly after a VSC, sometimes it's a couple of laps. Or is it just me?”

I've noticed that on some tracks they seem to only use the normal safety car and others only the VSC. Yesterday there was a multi car pile up with cars and marshals in the middle of the track which only warranted a VSC, at Baku every time a car stopped anywhere it was immediately a SC.
mjr
31-07-2016
"Winningest"

Oh, Damon.
lettice
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by mjr:
“"Winningest"

Oh, Damon.”

I thought the same, but is in all the dictionaries I just looked up, so a real word;
- having achieved the most success in competition.
- the winningest coach in football

Even in my old OED from the 1970s.
mjr
31-07-2016
I stand corrected What a clumsy word though, it really doesn't sound correct in British English.
lettice
31-07-2016
Do agree re gp2/3.
But no gp2/3 for over three weeks, have so enjoyed it all lately.
Cracking weekend from gp2/3 and wonderful commentary.

Liked Ted bumping into Will and the respect he gave and good stuff from James.
The Haas f1 canteen shoved on the end looked a bit squashed inside.

Will doing the track parade interviews, so no embarrassing Johnny ones.
Do wish the cameras could follow them around the track, would make for a good track parade programme.
mjr
31-07-2016
ITV doing their best to judge apparent false starts in the BTCC but without any footage of the start lights it's all rather academic
Zenith
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by F1-Addict:
“Despite long being my favourite member of the Sky team, Ted has become a bit of an arse lately. He made the absolutely bizarre accusation of placing the blame for Hamilton's unsafe release at Grosjean who he said was "barrelling down the pit lane".. at the 62mph speed limit denoted by the rules I might add...”

I found that comment completely bizarre as well. I'm surprised no one picked him up on it.

What was Grosjean supposed to do? Slow down to 20mph when he gets outside the Merc's garage just in case Hamilton wants to get out?
4chords
31-07-2016
No race control on iPad this weekend?
lettice
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by 4chords:
“No race control on iPad this weekend?”

Working fine here and has been fine for all other sessions this weekend.
scardis
31-07-2016
I'm not hearing any extra team radio on the app which is a shame.
Thankfully Eir have sorted their commentary audio problems and it's sounding better than it ever has on this channel.
FOM Fan
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by stefmeister:
“Either FOM have reworked the data channel since I last saw it or this is something new?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ComfzqwWAAAqqLY.jpg

Either way fans should be getting that rather than the current outdated timing screen.”

It's up to the brodcasters to decide which of FOM's additional feeds they want to take, sadly.
FOM Fan
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Jack Nicholls on Twitter said that commentators have seen that page all season”

Wait, so this "Driver Performance" channel is as WELL as the new-for2016-Data channel? Interesting. It looks to me like it's just a rejig of the data channel.

Ahh, well it looks to me that the same data (broken-up sector times) is available on the Data Channel which is available to TV broadcasters (whether they take it or not is up to them). It's possible that FOM are trying out this improved layout on the TVs at the track before they make it available publicly to broadcasters.
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