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What was the 1999-ITV France gate thing all about again? Some how did it crop up ITV didn't have quali rights or something 2.5 years late or something?! Didn't they not show quali late at night for that France meeting?
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Have a read of this - https://web.archive.org/web/20081204...le.asp?id=5344
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Agree re more races from 97-00 should be shown. There have been a few, but not loads.
Re Europe 99, I actually have that on DVD. There's a website somewhere on the net (can't remember what it is though) where you can buy full races on DVD. |
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Why wait for Sky to show the 1999 French Gp when you can watch the best broadcast of that race already
![]() http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvi...ce-part-1_auto http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvi...ce-part-2_auto And the qualifying session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8rTAIlS5M http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xou...g-onboard_auto |
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I'm hoping that (providing all the sources are available of course), that whenever FOM introduce their own in-house archive package, for the F1Digital Races, they'll emulate the original multi-screen experience, so you'll be able to pick from the original 6-8 channels (plus they could throw in the Analogue World Feed & onboard mix in there for good measure too), with a choice of what audio to listen to (one of the above channels, a mix of them, plus different commentary tracks - all synced up). I mean, that would be sweet. I'd pay for that - especially if they pulled out all the stops & made available all the commentary (UK, US, TV & Radio) they could too.
If they have raw team radio, they could even produce an isolated team-radio track, maybe to sync in with whoever's on the onboard feed at the time perhaps? I'm sure FOM actually trialed this at I think the 2009 Chinese Grand Prix, but none of the broadcasters took it up. But it would be easy to re-create for the 97-02 F1Digital stuff now assuming they have all the footage & audio. And lets not forget Premiere's additional Germany-only feeds from 2003-2008 I think. Which won't have been seen in ages. Even for the pre-F1 Digital stuff, weren't FOM producing a dedicated onboard channel for the host broadcaster to cut into whenever he wanted an onboard shot? That would be cool to have running simultaenously with the analogue feed too. Plus for those races that had one off feeds (like the local 16:9 experiments in Australia & Belgium for example before 2007), it would be ace if they could put those up... |
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Plus for those races that had one off feeds (like the local 16:9 experiments in Australia & Belgium for example before 2007), it would be ace if they could put those up...
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Why wait for Sky to show the 1999 French Gp when you can watch the best broadcast of that race already
![]() http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvi...ce-part-1_auto http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvi...ce-part-2_auto And the qualifying session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8rTAIlS5M http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xou...g-onboard_auto |
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Have a read of this - https://web.archive.org/web/20081204...le.asp?id=5344
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Australia ran 16:10 in 2003, I know because I've got a copy of it.
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Agree re more races from 97-00 should be shown. There have been a few, but not loads.
Hungary 1997 Hungary 1998 Belgium 1998 Japan 1998 Australia 1999 Austria 1999 Canada 1999 Malaysia 1999 (I think) Germany 2000 Belgium 2000 Japan 2000 I have a feeling there was another race from 1997 broadcast, one from earlier in the season - maybe Argentina - but not sure if that was one I youtubed and have got confused. And I've probably missed a few others. |
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It will always lift my spirits to see a Jordan winning! Surprisingly the trophy that year was actually made in Ireland by Waterford Crystal. Saw the replica in the showrooms a few years ago - They always made a few of their "One-Offs"(!) in case there is a mishap!!
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Love Schumacher looking into the camera at 52:50.Quote:
From memory and what I have on my Sky box...
Hungary 1997 Hungary 1998 Belgium 1998 Japan 1998 Australia 1999 Austria 1999 Canada 1999 Malaysia 1999 (I think) Germany 2000 Belgium 2000 Japan 2000 I have a feeling there was another race from 1997 broadcast, one from earlier in the season - maybe Argentina - but not sure if that was one I youtubed and have got confused. And I've probably missed a few others. |
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Have a read of this - https://web.archive.org/web/20081204...le.asp?id=5344
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/5599 Just imagine the debate and outrage in this thread if something like that happened nowadays.
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Really? I went there last year and didn't notice it!
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Thanks! Bizarre all round!
Same. The oldy graphics left a gap of an inch or so at either end of the screen. Also Channel Ten then, in their first grand prix, did a ITV and went to a break just before the Montoya spin/DC took the lead in latter stages. |
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They were unable to show Austria qualifying live either apparently.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/5599 Just imagine the debate and outrage in this thread if something like that happened nowadays. ![]() |
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Yep...I can hear it already
"What have you done with my instant gratification?..Give it Back to me NOW Jp |
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They were unable to show Austria qualifying live either apparently.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/5599 Just imagine the debate and outrage in this thread if something like that happened nowadays. ![]() |
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Australia ran 16:10 in 2003, I know because I've got a copy of it.
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From 2001 to 2003, the Australian Grand Prix was broadcast locally in widescreen (16:9) on Channel 9 Digital (2001-2002) and Channel 10 Digital (2003). For Non-Digital Local viewers, they received a letterbox (16:10 feed in a 4:3 frame) version of the Feed, while international viewers got a standard 4:3 feed.
I would imagine they got the 16:10 portion for the analogue feed by cutting off a portion of the 16:9 feed at the sides - I guess because they felt that 16:9 in a 4:3 window with black bars would be too much.
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Onboard picture breakup seems to be even worse than usual this weekend.
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Regarding the 16:10/16:9 graphics for Australia 2001-2003, it seems that digital viewers got a true 16:9 feed, and anlogue viewers got that feed in a 4:3 window (analogue is 4:3 only) with black-bars on the top, but instead of showing the true 16:9 feed within that 4:3 window, they zoomed-in a bit creating a 16:10 image within that 4:3 window, which means the image was cut off at the sides. I hope this makes sense:
http://i.imgur.com/QLu1qDa.png It's odd that they've zoomed the 16:9 feed in to 16:10 though. I know in Europe at the same time, if you were doing something like that, the standard was to zoom into 14:9 (which i've also marked on there - but as you can see that only loses a few more pixels). personally I don't see why they couldn't just have the full 16:9 image in the 4:3 frame (as shown on the red portion). |
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Onboard picture breakup seems to be even worse than usual this weekend.
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Irish Virgin Media customers are completely locked out of the Singapore Grand Prix this weekend. Sky coverage is on SSF1 only which is not available on Virgin Media and no sharing with other channels, including Mix which Virgin were heralding as the replacement for Eir Sport.
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Irish Virgin Media customers are completely locked out of the Singapore Grand Prix this weekend. Sky coverage is on SSF1 only which is not available on Virgin Media and no sharing with other channels, including Mix which Virgin were heralding as the replacement for Eir Sport.
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In relation to your first question Virgin pulled the Eir Sport package (2 Eir channels 1 free to basic and all BT Sports channels) as they were looking for a reduction in the broadcasting rights owning to the loss of 3pm EPL games to Sky Sports.
Eir wouldn't play ball so Virgin pulled the channels and replaced Eir Sport 1 105 EPG position with Sky Sports mix. Eir is the only Irish channel showing F1 however Sky Sports F1 is available to Sky TV customers in Ireland for a subscription. |
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Over on Eir Sports, FP2 coverage wasn't aired until overnight due to the Paralympics. Catching up with my recording and the session started with Karun Chandok and Tony Dodgens in the commentary box as Ben Edwards was in the paddock chasing the new shareholders.
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