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F1 Coverage - The Verdict: 2016 Season
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barclay55
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by simongvs70:
“There must be something in the bottled water they sell in the paddock. Jennie Gow- recently given birth, Lazenby's wife dropped her sprog this week, Jonesy just congratulated Toto Wolff on Susie getting pregnant...”

Is this why as part of the C4 F1 dream team she's done is it 2 races this year?
Forza Ferrari
30-10-2016
Wrong thread.
_SpeedRacer_
30-10-2016
In fairness to Vettel, they really should be able to make decisions faster.
Captain Stable
30-10-2016
Was anyone else waiting for Montoya to trip up on the way to the podium?
eladkse
30-10-2016
C4 staying with the F1 (at least for the interviews), and pushing the premiere of Humans S2 back. Very surprising...

Even without the delay to sort out 3rd place, I don't see how they were going to finish before 9pm anyway.
peter_sharp1uk
30-10-2016
Will be quickly cut off.
popeye13
30-10-2016
Stupid of C4 to schedule Humans for 9pm really, especially with what happened in the race and needing time on air to have a look etc! Why not push it back to half 9, or move post-race coverage to More4. Its not like More4 is showing something vital. Its a rerun of Father Ted (Which i bloody adore) but seriously C4, poor!

As for Vettel, that was shambolic behaviour over the radio with the 4-letter insults and telling Charlie Whiting that he needs to f-off!
That isn't anything close to professional, nevermind setting a proper example to younger racers!
Vettel since he went to Ferrari has become nothing short of shambolic with his appalling attitude, arrogance and behaviour!
I doubt that the FIA will ever do something about it, but that cannot be allowed to go unpunished!
mjr
30-10-2016
Well in fairness to Vettel FOM chose to broadcast it, it's not like the radio feed was just open.

I could just see that ending in a three-hour post-race investigation that could have gone either way, but with the radio going out on the world feed I expect that might have concentrated their minds on sorting it out before the podium.
pakokelso93
30-10-2016
Some more horrible and cringy Rachel Brookes questioning at work. Totally terrible with Vettel... Then Rosberg literally watching a start replay has a joke saying Hamilton should have had a penalty for going off track at T1 and Brookes jumps straight in all serious going "Do you think he should have had a penalty?!"
popeye13
30-10-2016
I like Rachel Brookes as a presenter. As an interviewer, she is looking for sensationalism every time she speaks and talks to drivers. She wants to provoke something and then stand there with the 'I got a scoop' face almost.
I don't even bother to watch the interviews anymore, she is laughable!
FOM Fan
30-10-2016
Ferrari & Vettel & Charlie know that the radio transmissions are public. It's not like the FiA wouldn't have known Seb had told him to **** off if FOM hadn't have broadcast it...

So the fact FOM have chose to broadcast it on TV doesn't make any difference. He still chose to broadcast it to the FIA over team radio...

For all we know, Charlie is told to **** off by a different driver every race when a decision doesn't (albeit briefly in this case) go their way...
patpending
31-10-2016
"This is Kai Ebel in his camouflage gear" (bright green shirt) - David Coulthard.
mjr
31-10-2016
Vettel given a 10 second penalty for his defence of Ricciardo, dropping him to fifth. I haven't seen all the angles, but of those I saw it looked fine. It was nothing like the wild change of lines that Max has pulled.
popeye13
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by mjr:
“Vettel given a 10 second penalty for his defence of Ricciardo, dropping him to fifth. I haven't seen all the angles, but of those I saw it looked fine. It was nothing like the wild change of lines that Max has pulled.”

No, they weren't like the stuff Max has pulled, but, he moved under braking and caused a collision.
He also got 2 points on his licence taking him to 6.
Ricciardo now promoted to 3rd
SmoggyTheTowny
31-10-2016
A show of complete incompetence from the world of F1 today.

An overall dull race, corner cutting, abuse towards officials, crashing to ward off overtakes, inconsistent stewards and results changed, not once but twice, after the race has finished...

People wonder why the interest in F1 is dropping?
dansus
31-10-2016
Watched Ch4 today for a change, nice to see new, old faces. Lack of post race was a joke.

Caught the start on Sky, not Croftys best, saved by the VSC.
solarflare
31-10-2016
Watched the race with friends yesterday, choosing Channel 4, though reverting to Sky for their longer post-race stuff. Thought Ben and DC did a decent job, enjoyed listening to them.

Largely tedious race saved to some extent by Verstappen's lunge on Rosberg and then the chaos of the Verstappen/Vettel/Ricciardo battle and the excellent revolving door podium.

Vettel is having some sort of Justin Beiber-esque meltdown...fresh-faced superstar to cynical foul-mouthed whiny little prat. Though I know it's not big or clever his radio message to Charlie was HILARIOUS. Most entertaining race for team radio since Raikkonen's Abu Dhabi "leave me alone". Also Verstappen's interview on Sky where he basically said as much about Vettel was funny as. That should stop folk complaining about the drivers being PR robots for a bit, if nothing else.

On a coverage front, there were a few nice extra graphics that popped up in the race which was quite good. Don't think any of them specifically added that much but nice to see FOM haven't entirely given up innovation for the season.
mightymillie
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by patpending:
“"This is Kai Ebel in his camouflage gear" (bright green shirt) - David Coulthard.”

...and red trousers. If he'd had a white belt, he could have passed as a Mexican flag.
FOM Fan
31-10-2016
I've noticed FOM tend to save the wilder experiments for the season finale. Remember that CGi replay a few years ago, which never happened again on the world feed, but sky nabbed it for their skypad stuff?

Then there was the live championship standings using their virtual ad tech from 2014.
FOM Fan
31-10-2016
So basically, this is how I see it:
HAM & ROS: HAM cuts the corner but isn't penalised because he doesn't gain an advantage from ROS as A) ROS cut the corner in a similar manner, and B) The VSC/SC Came out shortly afterwords anyway, negating any advantage.

VES & VET: VES cuts the corner but is penalised beacuse he gained and was able to maintain that advantage.

VET & RIC: VET is under attack by RIC. While defending, VET moves under braking, crowding out RIC & causing them to touch. As since the previous race, drivers have been told they can no longer move under braking while defending a position in such a manner, VET was penalised.

I've read this was implemented due to complaints about VES moving under braking, by drivers including VET, which would be somewhat ironic if true?
BenFranklin
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by SmoggyTheTowny:
“A show of complete incompetence from the world of F1 today.

An overall dull race, corner cutting, abuse towards officials, crashing to ward off overtakes, inconsistent stewards and results changed, not once but twice, after the race has finished...

People wonder why the interest in F1 is dropping?”

Was a good race. Especially considering it was a one stop, different drivers were quicker at different points and there was always a battle on the track to watch.

I genuinely think we've reached a stage now where people would rather watch a race with 100 meaningless DRS passes than a race where overtaking is tricky but the wheel to wheel action is intense.
gomezz
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by solarflare:
“Vettel is having some sort of Justin Beiber-esque meltdown...fresh-faced superstar to cynical foul-mouthed whiny little prat. Though I know it's not big or clever his radio message to Charlie was HILARIOUS. Most entertaining race for team radio since Raikkonen's Abu Dhabi "leave me alone". Also Verstappen's interview on Sky where he basically said as much about Vettel was funny as. That should stop folk complaining about the drivers being PR robots for a bit, if nothing else”

I reckon they should put cameras at the back of the pits and show us the drivers sorting out their differences mano a mano like back in the good old days.
The Scout
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Some more horrible and cringy Rachel Brookes questioning at work. Totally terrible with Vettel... Then Rosberg literally watching a start replay has a joke saying Hamilton should have had a penalty for going off track at T1 and Brookes jumps straight in all serious going "Do you think he should have had a penalty?!"”

Thinking about it, is it any wonder we have heard driver's answer's to questions in Italian recently. We might not be able to understand the question but who cares?

Originally Posted by popeye13:
“I like Rachel Brookes as a presenter. As an interviewer, she is looking for sensationalism every time she speaks and talks to drivers. She wants to provoke something and then stand there with the 'I got a scoop' face almost.
I don't even bother to watch the interviews anymore, she is laughable!”

Agree that there is night and day between her presenting and interviewing abilities but don't know about sensationalism. She just asks crap questions and I find it cringeworthy because the driver is often trying their best to remain respectful and polite whilst thinking "WTF?".

Originally Posted by SmoggyTheTowny:
“A show of complete incompetence from the world of F1 today.

An overall dull race, corner cutting, abuse towards officials, crashing to ward off overtakes, inconsistent stewards and results changed, not once but twice, after the race has finished...

People wonder why the interest in F1 is dropping?”

As much as I have been losing interest in F1, now is not the time to complain after a climax to a race like that.

There was excitement and controversy and gave everyone a reason to keep watching post-race (except for on C4 of course - d'oh!).
gomezz
31-10-2016
You mean 69 laps of boring "after you Claude" then two racing incidents which are deemed against the rules and are punished by penalties which change the podium not once, but twice after the race has ended?

Thank god for MotoGP this weekend which gave use some proper racing
FOM Fan
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“Thank god for MotoGP this weekend which gave use some proper racing”

Personally I feel overtaking in MotoGP is too easy. They pass each other & then back again one corner after the next, there's no real excitement, its a bit generic. But then again, MotoGP does nothing for me
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