Good spot DMN - presume his hiring is purely down to my rant on here last night

I can't see Paul pushing his own opinion strongly enough to spark a true discussion. I hope I'm wrong and he dares to disagree now and again.

"Blends in". "Isn't obtuse". I spotted them instantly, even in the dry.... Looks soo 90s with that awful CGI catch fencing....

Saw this as a single poll question on LoungeLab a few days ago and i was thinking - Isn't it already called the 'FIA Formula 1 World Championship'?

Disappointed as well that the sky cam that floated over the F1 cars in the stadium section of the Mexico track isn't in use here in Formula E.

I probably think they blend in as I'm too busy watching the on-track activity and not what is being advertised...

That was exactly how my Linx 10 inch win 10 tablet looked. Thanks for those, worked a treat that way.
Must say, was impressed with the youtube stream, not a blip from Practice 1 to end of the race. Pity it was only 720p though.


Certainly was tight in the Practice, but good to watch and Jack's reaction.
Scott did ok.
Really thinking now that with Jack on the radio, might try and sync him with some of the f1 this year. Is it just the race and qualy they do on BBC and is it live or slight delayed, meaning easy to sync.
Quite often sync talksport or team radio footie commentary with football on sky, bt or terrestrial.

If you're listening over a digital radio, the delay should only be a few seconds (same as Terrestrial TV), but the BBC's web streams of their radio stations can often be as much as 30secs behind live, albeit at a much higher quality than Digital Radio.

Watched Formula E for the first time this season and really wasn't impressed.

They had a proper circuit destroyed into a shambles of a one line track with virtually no chance of overtaking.

I couldn't care less about Alain Prost's heart-rate.

Multiple team radios seems like a good idea, but two different team radios in different languages with commentary over the top is a shambles.

The overtake for the win was just a simple dose of fan boost that made it too easy, other than that the speed difference between the cars isn't big enough for good racing.

The standard of driving was terrible, D'Ambrosio was a bit dodgy blocking Buemi, but Buemi then just hit him, then overtook illegally, tried to bunch up the cars to let Prost through, D'Ambrosio dropped to 6th in the mess Buemi created, then just blatantly cut a chicane to get back up to third before Buemi "gave him the place back". Somehow none of the corner cutting in that got penalised, while other drivers did.

The battle for second was followed to the detriment of everything else. There wasn't much else happening most of the time, but Heidfeld, Bird, Frijns were shown in that order when Bird got close a couple of times. They finished Frijns, Bird, Heidfeld, but were never shown or mentioned again.

Then to top it off, di Grassi got disqualified, putting the two drivers who deserved about three or four penalties each up to first and second, an absolute shambles of a result, made worse by Duval being penalised for cutting a chicane and gaining an advantage, it's almost like they just apply the rules where they feel like it.

Much like WTCC, the only entertainment in Formula E comes from bad driving and the incompetence of the stewards, the cars are boring and the circuits aren't good for racing.

At least they have real adverts, not CGI.

all motorsport entertainment comes from good/bad driving or other factors. in an ideal world the cars will start a race(in pace order) and finish where they start with no overtaking. fanboost is no worse than drs or pirelli tyres. i agree about the team radio. I enjoyed the mexico eprix It wasn't the greatest race but it was a darn sight better than the last 2.5 seasons of f1.

I had to laugh at that (or I'd have really got mad) - two cars battling through a chicane, it's not clear who's come out ahead, high on-track drama... so let's cut to... Alain Prost and his heart rate monitor. I mean, WTF?

Jack handled it well given the circumstances and tried to build some tension, but it was an awful piece of directing, easily as bad as any random WAG-cam we've seen in other series.

They had to play in the result via a replay afterwards of course so we actually knew what happened and how.

Wonder if ITV censored the swearing out of the team radio before their replay (not that it would be necessary on the late night broadcast.)

Does anyone have any info on whether C4 are going out to Oz and other races or if they will have any studio presentation?

All on site, certainly didn't get the impression that anything would be studio based

Oh that's a shame, Alex Zanardi not on Channel 4 after all - did think it was a bit strange he wasn't in the team picture:


@Sky - you know what to do!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35795864

This would certainly support the idea that Di Resta is going to be with Sky for a large part of season, he would have to be at the races in this capacity for Williams and if he's there Sky will most probably have him for their coverage.

Ah that all makes sense now about Di Resta. I do wonder if Sky are just trying to have a more consistent team race-to-race, or if this is also driven by needing to save money. I was quite happy with Di Resta's input last year so it's all good. Hill is also insightful and I like him, he clearly thinks about what he says.

Formula E is a little bit amateur hour but to be honest I find that part of the charm, in a light-relief-alternative-to-F1 sort of way.

Yes the cars are a bit slow but I like how they look and how they handle and how it's not all about aerodynamics making it impossible to follow closely without killing the tyres in a couple of laps.

But yes, the tracks are a little bit crap - filled with these stupid clunky chicanes not to slow the cars down but to add some sort of feature to an otherwise featurless trip around the city block - and the TV direction is wobbly. Good crowd for the race yesterday, though, that must surely have improved on the best ever FE crowd by a long way.

I think one of the problems with the races is that the first half of the race is very quiet - everyone settles in to saving energy. But I don't entirely see why, because they all get to more or less exactly half-distance and all pit on exactly the same lap apart from one guy who went really slowly to get one extra lap out of it. It's not like they're going really slowly for 60% of the race so they can crank the energy up for the last 40%. It basically just puts the race into a holding pattern to ensure that the whole field gets to half distance on the first car.

It sort of feels like they might as well just have two shorter races - separated by e.g. ten minutes - and have twice the entertainment for it.

Wow, that's...a little bit embarrassing for C4?

Yes, definitely is. How odd, it's evidently not just someone mistakenly including him in a press release by accidentally basing that off their shortlist rather than those that had signed - they've got a profile of him on the F1 section of their website:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/f...l/alex-zanardi

Ah... maybe this explains it: "Alex is in full time training for Rio in September, but will join DC to film a feature for our coverage."

Maybe he is (was?) doing one feature, but everyone's taken his inclusion in the press material to mean he's part of the presenting team. But then he's pretty emphatic about not being involved...

Thanks, if its just like my other sports radio listening, then will work well.
By digital radio, you mean DAB I assume. All mine of those went to a charity shop a few years back. Was thinking bbc streams or an app like Tunein etc.

Is the programme 'Time of our lives - GP Legends' at 2pm Thur on sky sports 5, new?
'Gary Newborn is joined by Formula 1 greats Jackie Stewart, Stirling Moss and John Surtees to talk about their racing days'.

Doing the weekly sky+ing and all the F1 stuff including driver/principal confs have been carried over from series link, nice. Excited now, roll on Thursday.
Not sure who put in the C4 stuff all prefixed with F1: its not always picked up in a search, consistency ahhhh!

Is the F1 for C4 going up on All4 anyone know? All4 is often quite sparse for On demand, well on sky anyway, do not use the web/app one if there is a difference.

I really like Hill too, he's quite interesting when he's given time to develop his points, he's not as concise as JH but is a lot more interesting if given an opportunity. For example I read an article he'd done on Sky F1 recently saying that he wanted Williams to get a Honda engine, which originally I was bemused at given last years disaster. But having read the article, he explained his points about how he felt it gave Williams the best chance to win a World Championship really well. It was something I hadn't thought of and also the sort of argument I doubt you'd see from Herbert, who is good in small portions but becomes quite laborious over a 20 or even 21 race season.

I hope it's not new, otherwise I can't understand the decision to air the first showing on a 'European Football' channel which makes the F1 channel serves no purpose.

EDIT: It's not thank god

And yes all F1 content on C4 will be viewable as a live simulcast or on-demand on All4.

Nope. That was recorded years ago, even before Sky gained the F1 rights IIRC.


Yes it is.

The Alex Zanardi thing seems very, very strange.

Edit: Beaten to it. I should probably refresh the page before replying to a post.

Good for the On demand and thx DanManF1.
Sky sports 5 is quite a jumbled channel often with many sports.
Only a week to go and we will be seeing the new Sky Sports Mix option/price, so expect some F1 will be on there too.

That'll be (in my experience, and I am on an 80mbit Fibre connection here) 30-40 seconds behind live then.