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Reading between the lines a lot. Nothing says there'll be any standardisation of any broadcasters' online services but does hint at FOM providing their own global streaming service a la Netflix but live, which would certainly be something. The future may well be bleak for the pay TV broadcasters if that is the case. But I can't see why FOM would supply this great service to C4 for example; surely C4 (or whoever) would get the traditional FTA TV only rights and nothing more.
Getting the signal back from the track to the broadcasters via cable rather than satellite is different, other than getting rid of a chunk of the delay of course. I wonder if either UK broadcaster is part of the 23? Interesting though. |
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The FTA Sky Sports channel development continues. An update yesterday says that the new channel will be ready for June and will be called Sky Sports Mix, the source? A person who at Sky:
![]() http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...3&postcount=28 Its nonsense and not factual! |
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James Allen has posted a blog post about Tata & FOM's live streaming efforts
Found this similar article, not sure if you have seen this; http://jwgrandprix.com/2016/03/10/fo...-broadcasting/ |
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I don't know, But i've heard that FOM want to put at least the extra interactive feeds on the F1 Access portal for live streaming (World feed still locked to broadcasters), now that's kinda pointless if Sky's online streaming is 30secs behind live yet C4 is 20secs behind live. Having a unified backend across all broadcasters would ensure that each person is getting the same quality & sync with their streams. I mentioned "standardisation" because the article said that instead of Broadcasters serving the streams themselves, some (the 23) were already just tapping into tata's network and letting them do all that, as far as the F1 feeds are concerned.
Which is why I think this is talking about an FOM subscription service where they're running both the broadcast and all the additional services and can then try to keep them reasonably in sync. But I guess we'll see. |
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The delays are more to do with the unreliability of local internet delivery and not how you get the signal back from say Melbourne to London. I think you're confusing the two: standardising the way broadcasters get their streams from FOM isn't the same as standardising the way consumers get their streams from the broadcasters. If Sky online has a 30 second delay it'll still have a 30 second delay, and it doesn't seem likely that Tata/FOM would come in and upgrade Sky's system for them.
Which is why I think this is talking about an FOM subscription service where they're running both the broadcast and all the additional services and can then try to keep them reasonably in sync. But I guess we'll see. Sky: Get feed from FOM -> send Feed to Sky's servers & encode for playback -> Push out on Sky's website. BBC: Get feed from FOM -> Send Feed to BBC's Servers & encode for playback -> Push out on BBC's website. vs: FOM: Send feed to own servers & encode for playback -> Push out on all broadcaster's websites. You've removed 1 link in the chain, making it cheaper & more efficient for broadcasters to serve to their users. |
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Sky series links are now available for all Sky F1 content.
Just had confirmed and its all working fine for me. Nice to see Tony Jardine on Sky Sports News this morning previewing the season. Quite a long piece. |
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Yes, but whether the streaming player is hosted on Sky's website or the BBC's, the streams that that player uses could still all come from a central server (say FOM's)... Rather that what's happening now, where by
Sky: Get feed from FOM -> send Feed to Sky's servers & encode for playback -> Push out on Sky's website. BBC: Get feed from FOM -> Send Feed to BBC's Servers & encode for playback -> Push out on BBC's website. vs: FOM: Send feed to own servers & encode for playback -> Push out on all broadcaster's websites. You've removed 1 link in the chain, making it cheaper & more efficient for broadcasters to serve to their users. I can't see why FOM/Tata would want to invest in improving Sky's/BBC's/C4's delivery system for them. It seems far more likely they'd want to create their own for their own brand. From your example above it's pretty obvious FOM doesn't need the broadcaster at all. It's only some proofs of concept at the moment, so we'll have to see what it translates to. Moving from satellite to cable as a way of getting the signal back to the broadcaster will be invisible to the consumer, but probably reduce costs significantly and if that helps bring about 4K that's good too. I'd bet we will have an F1 subscription service with F1 apps for other devices and then with everything integrated the synchronisation issues can be addressed. Sounds good to me. |
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Won't Mercedes' prime slot before the parade lap on C4 backfire if the season is a walkover?
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/03/...-s-f1-coverage |
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Won't Mercedes' prime slot before the parade lap on C4 backfire if the season is a walkover?
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/03/...-s-f1-coverage |
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Though surely each broadcaster would want to have their own logo, and possibly mix in other content (hopefully not ads).
I can't see why FOM/Tata would want to invest in improving Sky's/BBC's/C4's delivery system for them. It seems far more likely they'd want to create their own for their own brand. From your example above it's pretty obvious FOM doesn't need the broadcaster at all. It's only some proofs of concept at the moment, so we'll have to see what it translates to. Moving from satellite to cable as a way of getting the signal back to the broadcaster will be invisible to the consumer, but probably reduce costs significantly and if that helps bring about 4K that's good too. I'd bet we will have an F1 subscription service with F1 apps for other devices and then with everything integrated the synchronisation issues can be addressed. Sounds good to me. |
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FOM have put an OnBoard lap from the 1986 Australian Gp online:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVGgu_HA9y8 And I've put the 1999 Review up: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3x...1-review_sport |
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FOM have put an OnBoard lap from the 1986 Australian Gp online:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVGgu_HA9y8] |
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Does that video look in sync to you? It's weird, some bits (like the tyres squealing as the car moves off from the grid) sound in sync, yet others (rev counter before the start, and the gear-shifts) seem really out :/ There are times when I hear down & upshifts when his hand is nowhere near the shifter (unless he's got a 2nd one on the other side that he's using with his left hand).
The audio was probably poor over the 1st lap for some reason so they have tried (Badly) to sync in bits from other laps. Given how there are many other laps through that weekend including a few that were shown on the world-feed its weird how they decided to use one that had dodgy audio syncing. Still I hope dipping into the OnBoard archive is something FOM are going to do a bit more of. Would be cool if they decided to do some sort of little feature on the OnBoards as MotoGP did last year to commemorate 30 years since they 1st used one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfxhtEVMV1c |
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Yeah the audio isn't in sync.
The audio was probably poor over the 1st lap for some reason so they have tried (Badly) to sync in bits from other laps. Given how there are many other laps through that weekend including a few that were shown on the world-feed its weird how they decided to use one that had dodgy audio syncing. Still I hope dipping into the OnBoard archive is something FOM are going to do a bit more of. Would be cool if they decided to do some sort of little feature on the OnBoards as MotoGP did last year to commemorate 30 years since they 1st used one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfxhtEVMV1c |
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I notice that David Coulthard is narrating FOM's "Circuit Guide" videos this year, previously it was James Allen in 2015: http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-...bert_Park.html
I wonder if this is so C4 can use these as VTs as part of the race show, rather than having to make their own? David has never 'hosted' a FOM/F1 Access video before, he's only been a guest/been interviewed in a couple before. |
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I notice that David Coulthard is narrating FOM's "Circuit Guide" videos this year, previously it was James Allen in 2015: http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-...bert_Park.html
I wonder if this is so C4 can use these as VTs as part of the race show, rather than having to make their own? David has never 'hosted' a FOM/F1 Access video before, he's only been a guest/been interviewed in a couple before.
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FOM have put an OnBoard lap from the 1986 Australian Gp online:
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Also confirms that we are not getting new world feed graphics this year.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that they take the cars back to 80's levels, but that one lap looked so much more exciting than anything we see these days. The drivers head bobbing around showing how bumpy the ride is and he physical the whole thing is, the drivers hand coming off the wheel to change gear (yes, I know we wouldn't see that now) but that's why F1 is losing viewers these days, it makes everything look like a Sunday morning drive to church
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It isn't a Sunday morning drive to church though... What are they supposed to do, film it upside down so that it *looks* more exciting?
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Think I know why the audio is out of sync on the Dumfries OnBoard, I think there using audio from the wrong car. Patrick Tambay also had an OnBoard camera that weekend & he was the next car behind Dumfries over the opening lap & the engine sounds more like Ford Tambay was running than the Renault in Dumfries Lotus.
Dumfries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mWHmB7ZhfM Tambay: https://youtu.be/qIn1pkyIbPE The Dumfries lap posted by FOM earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVGgu_HA9y8 |
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http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-...e_cameras.html
I take it nowadays FOM (who use it for things like the starting grid graphics) do all the green screen work themselves and just give it to the broadcasters? |
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http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-...e_cameras.html
I take it nowadays FOM (who use it for things like the starting grid graphics) do all the green screen work themselves and just give it to the broadcasters?
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