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It will be a real pity if it isn't FTA somewhere,, on a channel accessible by all. I have no interest in F1 at all but many people have and should be able to view it, at least as much as the current C4 deal allows.
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Interesting to note that Sky's Twitter/website are ignoring the GPDA press release today: http://www.skysports.com/f1
Even if you don't like or agree with the content, it is a major story in F1 terms and should be covered as such. |
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you would think the F1 advertisers will not be very happy as much viewer people will see all the adds in the sport to?
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But that channel is available to Sky customers only so technically all but 1 race is now behind a paywall.
2019, the year the popularity of F1 in the UK drops like a stone. I for one will not be paying for Sky Sports to watch it, the price is already too high for me to justify just for F1, without the prices rises that will be on their way before it happens... |
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Let's pretend that the Sky Sports F1 Channel never existed... What SS channels would F1 be on then this year? This is where the problem begins as there is so much clashes to put up with:
Australia: Sky Sports 1 (No direct clash) Bahrain: Sky Sports 3 (Clashes with Football and T20 final) China: Sky Sports 1 (No direct clash) Russia: Sky Sports 2 (Clashes with Football) Spain: Sky Sports 3/4 (Clashes with final day of PL) And the going to the final half of the season: Belgium: Sky Sports 2 (Clashes with Football) Italy: Sky Sports 3 (Clashes with Football and England V Pakistan ODI) Singapore: Sky Sports 2 (Clashes with Football) And you might want to include stuff like Rugby, Tennis, Boxing as well so F1 would be changing channels all the time. And don't forget that some providers only provide SS1/2...... |
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Interesting to note that Sky's Twitter/website are ignoring the GPDA press release today: http://www.skysports.com/f1
Even if you don't like or agree with the content, it is a major story in F1 terms and should be covered as such. I also think that the GPDA were very hypocritical in getting a commercial tie-up with Motorsport.com for their fans survey last year, especially as autosport then launched their own competing one. Talk about splitting the fanbase... IMO if FOM aren't able to launch their own streaming service at a level Cheaper than Now TV, by 2019, then I will have to think twice about whether I continue to follow the sport. Of course, it's a few years away yet so plenty can change between now & then
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This news is terrible - will need to decide if switching from Talk Talk to Sky will be in order as it would be a shame for me to lose all HD F1 coverage (Sky Sports only SD on Talk Talk Youview platform). But that would be rewarding Sky for their audacious grab of the exclusive rights. #conflicted
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The interesting part is 4K UHD coverage by FOM.
All major sports are taking the live pay-TV route so pick your jaw off the floor and realise that is is, for better or worse, the way it will be for F1, cricket, football, golf etc. Bad for the man in the street but better coverage for the enthusiast and hardcore fan. |
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Wow! Thats unreal considering the shitstorm that FOM got when they let half the races go behind a paywall in the first place!
I feel for Channel 4 too as they're just into the sport and their original bid declined before! Im wondering just what C4 knew of this because i can't imagine they were going to come in, sped what they are for 3 years to then be shown the door!! As for closing the Sky F1 channel - Nope! Look at the press release, where Brundle makes a point of why he joined Sky Sports - The work on a dedicated F1 channel and the fact is, having the F1 channels makes life easier to find where the coverage is, its not pressed for time because another live event such as a rugby game or football is on next! And i don't see ads being put into the races either. I think how they have it now is what they'll stick to! But holy ****!!!! |
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Things may get even worse for you, BT are apparently wanting to buy TalkTalk out of Youview, so their TV offerings may disappear.
Same here. Considering this is FOM we are talking about, I never expected 4K to be on the cards for the next 10 years in typical FOM fashion. |
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Let's pretend that the Sky Sports F1 Channel never existed... What SS channels would F1 be on then this year? This is where the problem begins as there is so much clashes to put up with:
Australia: Sky Sports 1 (No direct clash) Bahrain: Sky Sports 3 (Clashes with Football and T20 final) China: Sky Sports 1 (No direct clash) Russia: Sky Sports 2 (Clashes with Football) Spain: Sky Sports 3/4 (Clashes with final day of PL) And the going to the final half of the season: Belgium: Sky Sports 2 (Clashes with Football) Italy: Sky Sports 3 (Clashes with Football and England V Pakistan ODI) Singapore: Sky Sports 2 (Clashes with Football) And you might want to include stuff like Rugby, Tennis, Boxing as well so F1 would be changing channels all the time. And don't forget that some providers only provide SS1/2...... That's not to say we don't have that situation in other sports, but the constant shuffling would be significantly more pronounced for F1 and its support programme due to the quantity across a weekend. |
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I imagine Sky pressed them hard or something. I wonder if FOM will produce a seperate 4k world feed, or if they'll have the 4k feed as the 'Master' one, and just downscale it to 1920x1080 for regular HD broadcasters. Apart from SkyQ & BT Sport in the UK, are there any other broadcasters in the world currently broadcasting (or planning to) in 4k?
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you would think the F1 advertisers will not be very happy as much viewer people will see all the adds in the sport to?
But then this deal, just like all of the other pay TV deals, have never taken into account the affect it will have on sponsorship, and F1 has been declining in popularity with sponsors for a while now because of the cost. |
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I was hoping for some new legends or Architects over winter time but nope same old same old every night
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Another worry with this new deal is Sky having no competition, and no particular incentive to improve.
Unless of course FOM have actually retained the streaming rights, which could get very interesting... is it too much to hope that could be the next gig for the Channel 4 team after 2018? |
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I can't say this comes as a surprise. I believe the current 50/50 split deal for live races came about at the BBC's request (as they were looking to cut costs). Once pay tv had got it's foot in the door it was always going to want exclusivity the next time round.
Arguably the most significant aspect of the news is that Sky have retained the rights ahead of BT - locking BT out of F1 for at least the next 8 years. Yes they may of put a offer of some sort in but i doubt they would of gone mad, if anything i think they will go all out to retain the Champion League rights hence its money saved for them which in turn could mean Sky will not themselves go mad on bidding for those rights. |
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great move by Sky
Golf, Cricket and F1 all live on sky during non live football times But then F1 is just the latest sport to be hoovered up by the Sky Sports greed machine. Quote:
I wonder if Sky will go down the route of unbundeling Sky Sport F1 from the full Sports Pack and let people just subscribe to that channel on top of the basic Sky package.
Still won't help the people without Sky, but maybe they will offer the channel on Freeview/Sat as an add on channel. Quote:
A lot can happen in 3 years .
Streaming for one thing will be far more mainstream by then than it is now. I don't expect much to change any time soon, a massive overhaul of our woeful network infrastructure would be required to deal with a real demand for streaming. |
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So like boxing, F1 will slowly become marginalised and most people won't care?
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I could see them putting adverts in the quali gaps and also the races if they have no competition, but if they have any common sense, they won't do it.
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Anyone thinking the F1 Channel will close in 2019 too so that all people who signed up to Sky in 2012 (and got F1 free) will have to get the full sports package? The press release is worded in a particular way which makes me believe this is what they will do.
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As for closing the Sky F1 channel - Nope!
Look at the press release, where Brundle makes a point of why he joined Sky Sports - The work on a dedicated F1 channel and the fact is, having the F1 channels makes life easier to find where the coverage is, its not pressed for time because another live event such as a rugby game or football is on next! And i don't see ads being put into the races either. I think how they have it now is what they'll stick to! But holy ****!!!! Others may have different opinions, but I don't for one second think Brundle would give up the Sky pay packet. Quote:
Sky have far too much going on at race weekends when you factor in programming like GP2/3. It would mean a *lot* of channel hopping if there wasn't a dedicated channel like SSF1.
That's not to say we don't have that situation in other sports, but the constant shuffling would be significantly more pronounced for F1 and its support programme due to the quantity across a weekend. |
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One interesting thing to watch will be what happens in regards to Sky Germany and Sky Italy, haven't they just linked with Sky UK (following SUK purchasing them), I wonder if they will also get deals similar?
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move towards pay TV, which is at the centre of declining audiences
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35882820 Even drivers know it's going down the shit. Quote:
What are the drivers concerned about?
The GPDA has been careful not to single out specific issues but collating recent remarks by many drivers and Wurz - and developments over the winter - it seems likely they are referring to a number of issues. These are: decisions on rule changes such as double points in 2014, changing the qualifying format and restricting radio communications for this year, and fundamental errors in the formulation of the turbo hybrid engine rules; plus ideas that have been discussed but not yet accepted such as weight handicaps, reverse grids and qualifying races the move towards pay TV, which is at the centre of declining audiences the failure of the strategy group of leading teams, F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone and governing body the FIA to make significant progress in mapping out a clear direction on the sport's future what is perceived to be an inequitable distribution of income, heavily skewed in favour of the top teams making a decision on F1's tyre supplier for financial reasons when many of the teams and drivers have misgivings about Pirelli |
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Regarding the streaming rights, Was there not something going around last year about FOM having some sort of what was been called a 'nuclear option' when it came to the streaming rights part of the contracts they signed with broadcasters that would allow them to offer a separate service?
For me if FOM were to offer a streaming service that was priced reasonably (I would put reasonable at anything upto around £10-13 a month) & which offered all the live feeds, I'd ditch Sky & go with the FOM service. |
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The timing of this is unreal:
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