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Of course in FTA days, the average F1 supporter watching on TV contributed absolutely nothing moneywise, and no doubt the 'TV money' paid to F1 by the Broadcasters reflected this. F1 has moved on, the World has moved on, compare the coverage now on SkyF1 with what was offered 20 years ago, and there is no comparison. F1 themselves however need to get THEIR act sorted out !
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Which nobody watches.
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Blame the BBC. They reneged on the deal (twice). Nobody likes being forced to take a pay cut.
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Of course in FTA days, the average F1 supporter watching on TV contributed absolutely nothing moneywise, and no doubt the 'TV money' paid to F1 by the Broadcasters reflected this. F1 has moved on, the World has moved on, compare the coverage now on SkyF1 with what was offered 20 years ago, and there is no comparison. F1 themselves however need to get THEIR act sorted out !
Are we getting a better product than we did in 1996? I'm not so sure. Most sports which have taken the big money and moved to pay-TV can demonstrate that the extra investment has improved the product. Not the case with F1 where all the money raked in from TV and hosting fees is not helping the teams give us a good show. |
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F1 survived for years with only the odd race live and mostly highlights packages. I'm sure it can do it again - didn't stop us from getting into it, every race live is basically a modern thing and I can't understand why people think it will make a difference to the sport overall.
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I got into F1 in the late 1970's where we got 20 Mins highlights and if we were really lucky, some live race coverage if it rained during the Sunday league Cricket. Whatever happens, the coverage is going to be considerably better than that.
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I was talking to some family on Monday about NowTV movies & it got me thinking about something.... Right now for the sports they offer Day, Week & Month passes but why not offer a Event Pass where your buying an event rather than the pack?
Instead of having to buy a pass for the whole sports pass why not single out an event & work it like PPV, You want to watch an F1 weekend you buy an F1 event pass where you get access to SSF1 Friday-Sunday for somewhere around maybe £6-8 a race weekend. The packages they have currently & the prices they are at don't really work for those who just want temporary access to watch a specific event; Be it an F1 weekend or a specific football match etc... I wonder how many more would consider NowTV if they could buy access only to what they wanted at a more reasonable price without having to buy for days, channels & sports that they don't want? |
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I was talking to some family on Monday about NowTV movies & it got me thinking about something.... Right now for the sports they offer Day, Week & Month passes but why not offer a Event Pass where your buying an event rather than the pack?
Instead of having to buy a pass for the whole sports pass why not single out an event & work it like PPV, You want to watch an F1 weekend you buy an F1 event pass where you get access to SSF1 Friday-Sunday for somewhere around maybe £6-8 a race weekend. The packages they have currently & the prices they are at don't really work for those who just want temporary access to watch a specific event; Be it an F1 weekend or a specific football match etc... I wonder how many more would consider NowTV if they could buy access only to what they wanted at a more reasonable price without having to buy for days, channels & sports that they don't want? |
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I was talking to some family on Monday about NowTV movies & it got me thinking about something.... Right now for the sports they offer Day, Week & Month passes but why not offer a Event Pass where your buying an event rather than the pack?
Instead of having to buy a pass for the whole sports pass why not single out an event & work it like PPV, You want to watch an F1 weekend you buy an F1 event pass where you get access to SSF1 Friday-Sunday for somewhere around maybe £6-8 a race weekend. The packages they have currently & the prices they are at don't really work for those who just want temporary access to watch a specific event; Be it an F1 weekend or a specific football match etc... I wonder how many more would consider NowTV if they could buy access only to what they wanted at a more reasonable price without having to buy for days, channels & sports that they don't want? |
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Of course in FTA days, the average F1 supporter watching on TV contributed absolutely nothing moneywise, and no doubt the 'TV money' paid to F1 by the Broadcasters reflected this. F1 has moved on, the World has moved on, compare the coverage now on SkyF1 with what was offered 20 years ago, and there is no comparison. F1 themselves however need to get THEIR act sorted out !
The viewing figures were absolutely enormous 20 years ago which is why the teams had far less trouble finding sponsors. |
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Bob Varsha confirmed as commentating on this weekend's FE race. That should be interesting.
https://twitter.com/Jack_Nicholls/st...29406105624576 |
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Simply by watching, they were contributing.
The viewing figures were absolutely enormous 20 years ago which is why the teams had far less trouble finding sponsors. There was a long thread on Autosport where someone was saying along the lines of "nothing remains free, motorsports have to go pay to survive." My counterpoint is the BTCC which is flourishing in an FTA environment with a quality TV package from ITV. |
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You seem to be comparing F1 to all football, which is completely inaccurate.
Football in this country does genuinely go a lot further than just the Premier League. There is motorsport life outside F1 in this country, but you couldn't say it was anything remotely as extensive as football outside of the PL. Quote:
There's lots of other motor racing on TV, and lots of regular motor racing you can see to feel connected that never makes it on TV
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I'd suggest motor racing is the second most relevant sport to most people
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and whilst F1 is the pinnacle and may seem a bit elitist and out of touch it's hardly more so than the premiership.
Look, I'm not having a go at either F1 or football - just trying to explain why I think F1 will go an entirely different way when it is exclusively live to pay-TV. |
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Nico Hulkenberg is on this week's Question of Sport, 10:45 tonight (a bit later if you're in Wales or Northern Island) and it's repeated at 7:30 on Friday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0763xg2 (Copied from Official F1 thread.) |
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Might be worth mentioning that the ratings for C4's first live race could be pretty low on Sunday. Not only because of the football, but also due to England making the final of the Cricket WT20 final which is during the GP. Really frustrating.
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Might be worth mentioning that the ratings for C4's first live race could be pretty low on Sunday. Not only because of the football, but also due to England making the final of the Cricket WT20 final which is during the GP. Really frustrating.
I'm intrigued to know if Channel 4 have a get out clause in their contract. |
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I think C4 will be okay because they will also have that novelty factor in it being their first live race, people will be looking to see what they do and how.
I will be.... |
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Bob Varsha confirmed as commentating on this weekend's FE race. That should be interesting.
https://twitter.com/Jack_Nicholls/st...29406105624576 |
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Marc Priestly is hosting F1 Report this week so it will be interesting to see how he does as a presenter compared to a pundit.
The three guys, including Peter Windsor all made it a good watch. Why do they do that show in the corridor? |
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There was a long thread on Autosport where someone was saying along the lines of "nothing remains free, motorsports have to go pay to survive." My counterpoint is the BTCC which is flourishing in an FTA environment with a quality TV package from ITV.
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F1 usually gets talked about negatively though. BTCC is also a national championship, not an international championship so you'd expect it to be talked about less.
As far as I'm concerned, the BTCC is in better health than F1 in some respects. Yes F1 has the money, but loads gets taken out of the sport, teams are struggling, viewing figures are falling due to it going increasingly to pay TV around the world, and because so many people are involved in the rule making etc (some of which that shouldn't be, eg the teams) nothing useful ever gets done (witness double points and elimination qualifying, neither of which anyone asked for or wanted). BTCC on the other hand has capped the number of entries as they have so many people wanting to take part, it's not down to money as to how good you do, they have for example tyre supplier and TV coverage nailed down for another 6 years or so, so there's some stability there, the teams don't all sit around making rules then hoping someone else will say "yes let's do this" or "no let's not" making it look like a joke. There's other things in my head too but I've forgotten them whilst typing this post. F1 may be bigger, have more money, better drivers etc, but it's hardly in a great place right now is it when you think about things. |
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The current Next Generation Touring Car (NGTC) specification cars are so much cheaper to run and race compared to the much loved Supertouring. This is the main reason why BTCC grids are full.
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No Alonso for the weekend then! Yikes!
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He must be one more big crash away from being forced to retire.
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He must be one more big crash away from being forced to retire.
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Yep, it's a rib fracture keeping him out
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