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F1 Coverage - The Verdict: 2016 Season
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stevvy1986
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by The Wanderer:
“Yep, it's a rib fracture keeping him out”

Yeah I've seen some of the comments from him. Apparently another high G crash could puncture one of his lungs and he's also suffering from a bit of pain and not sleeping too well. No guarantee he'll race in China either.
DEmberton
31-03-2016
Shame, but it does mean we get to see if Stoffel Vandoorne lives up to the hype.
Guv'nor
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by DEmberton:
“Shame, but it does mean we get to see if Stoffel Vandoorne lives up to the hype.”

He'll be punted off at the first corner by Marcus Ericsson and we'll never know.
TheSubaru2012
31-03-2016
I'm going to leave F1 for now and bring you news on the Blancpain GT Series as today the promoter (SRO) has announced international TV rights this year, and also brings a couple bits of good news in terms of thier coverage, first up is TV rights here in Europe:

Quote:
“In Europe, motorsport channel Motors TV will cover every round of the Endurance Cup live, while pan-European sports broadcaster Eurosport will cover the Sprint Cup live or 'as-live'. Eurosport will also show highlights of the endurance races, which are also being covered by UK pay-television broadcaster BT Sport.”

And finally coverage plans for the Spa 24H:
Quote:
“SRO said the key expansion of this year’s television package will be a round-the-clock broadcast of the 24 Hours of Spa, the showpiece event of the GT Series. The race at the Spa-Francorchamps circuit in Belgium will be provided with start-to-finish coverage, while qualifying and superpole sessions will also be live.”

solarflare
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by DEmberton:
“Shame, but it does mean we get to see if Stoffel Vandoorne lives up to the hype.”

Yes, looking forward to seeing Vandoorne in action!
believethehype
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by FOM Fan:
“Yes I have, and the impression i've got is that it's stuck in a rut, and yes there's definitely a 'laddish' atmosphere to it, which I don't like, but is understandable given the 9/10ths male presenting team, and given that Sky Sports have mostly done Football coverage before. Personally I think the coverage should go through a complete overhaul. The only thing i'd keep is Ted's notebook tbh. I can understand keeping Hill on, as he's actually an F1 champion, but personally If I wanted to freshen it up a bit, I'd drop Herbert and probably Brundle, in particular, I'd replace Brundle with a driver with more recent experience in F1, e.g. Di Resta or Davidson. I mean Brundle last contested an F1 race 20 years ago & frankly his commentary is more sounding like an angry granddad now tbh. I don't think his analysis adds much to it any more, it would be far better with a younger, post-2009 driver at the very least.”

Even by your standards this is woefully ignorant.

Sky have decades of experience of a whole range of sports: rugby, cricket, tennis, golf, boxing, darts, NFL and of course motor racing.

When they set up Sky Sports F1, not a single person on that team came from Sky's football department. The head of SSF1 Martin Turner was previously head of rugby union at Sky Sports, and before that a senior producer at FOM.

The team he assembled included a couple of APs he knew from his rugby team and one who had worked on Sky's Indycar coverage. He also poached FOM's VT director, and an associate producer who had been working on F1 for North One until 2008. Simon Lazenby had started as a motor sport presenter at Sky almost a decade earlier, hosting their Le Mans Series coverage among other things.

What you describe as being "laddish" is camaraderie - it is the sort of relationship among colleagues that you will find at any team in F1... in fact any team in racing. Many broadcasters have presented from the paddock in the past. They've all failed to reflect what being in a paddock is like, until Sky.

As for your assertion that the presentation team is 9/10ths male, which of Nathalie or Rachel are you suggesting is a man?
believethehype
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by DanManF1:
“Bob Varsha confirmed as commentating on this weekend's FE race. That should be interesting.

https://twitter.com/Jack_Nicholls/st...29406105624576”

Just the sort of youthful outlook Formula E is aiming for.

I wonder if he'll also be doing London while Jack is doing the Austrian Grand Prix?
DanManF1
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by believethehype:
“Just the sort of youthful outlook Formula E is aiming for.

I wonder if he'll also be doing London while Jack is doing the Austrian Grand Prix?”

Apparently Jack will be there for the London races. No idea yet who'll be standing in for him for the 5Live Austria commentary though.
Jules 1
31-03-2016
Not quite coverage related but perhaps Alonso might be thinking about his future now, after 2 very bad crashes.

At McLaren, while it does appear a better car than last year, you still couldn't imagine a title challenge.

While he will still think about winning more world titles, he could walk away from the sport, a very wealthy man.
BenFranklin
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by believethehype:
“What you describe as being "laddish" is camaraderie”

No, Sky's output is quite laddish at times, no need to get over defensive about it.
dzfootball
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by DanManF1:
“Apparently Jack will be there for the London races. No idea yet who'll be standing in for him for the 5Live Austria commentary though.”

Hopefully not Legard. Has Tom Clarkson done any commentary?
believethehype
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by DanManF1:
“Apparently Jack will be there for the London races. No idea yet who'll be standing in for him for the 5Live Austria commentary though.”

Maybe it will be James Allen.
Ironic that they replaced James with Jack because they wanted one commentator who could commit to doing every race, and they still don't have that.
bobnick
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by BenFranklin:
“No, Sky's output is quite laddish at times, no need to get over defensive about it.”

Indeed, it's very off-putting at times at the ladz have some top bantz with Laserz and Crofty, no doubt before they head out for a cheeky Nandos after the broadcast.

It's strange as the BBC had a similar male line-up in their original incarnation, and it didn't fall in to the same trap.
BenFranklin
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by bobnick:
“It's strange as the BBC had a similar male line-up in their original incarnation, and it didn't fall in to the same trap.”

Exactly, camaraderie is not the same thing as laddishness.
Entropy_Nebula
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by bobnick:
“Indeed, it's very off-putting at times at the ladz have some top bantz with Laserz and Crofty, no doubt before they head out for a cheeky Nandos after the broadcast.

It's strange as the BBC had a similar male line-up in their original incarnation, and it didn't fall in to the same trap.”

For real right???

The original trio were the sole reason I stopped watching BBC's F1 coverage when given the choice of Sky (Legacy HD pack here). I couldn't stand the constant 'Three Amigo's act and the endless time devoted to it. Jake was an utter cretin and the constant picking on Jordan was not funny or entertaining, that was not camaraderie imo, it was uncomfortable to watch.

Funny how Crofty was entertaining when commentating with Ant Davidson on the beeb, now he's crossed the floor he's vilified.

The Sky guys are utter cringe at times, but let's not apotheosize the BBC in comparison, none of them are perfect.
DEmberton
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by Entropy_Nebula:
“For real right???

I give you Jake Humphrey, DC, and Eddie Jordan.......They were the sole reason I stopped watching BBC's F1 coverage when given the choice of Sky (Legacy HD pack here). I couldn't stand the constant 'Three Amigo's act and the endless time devoted to it. Jake was an utter cretin and the constant picking on Jordan was not funny or entertaining, that was not camaraderie imo, it was uncomfortable to watch.

The sky guys are utter cringe at times, but let's not apotheosize the BBC in comparison, none of them are perfect.”

WHS. BBC was far worse in the Jake days.

I don't know if people want nothing but serious po-faced analysis; the personalities are as much of a reason to watch the pre and post show as anything and although Sky have a bit too much Herbert they've always been better IMO.

Ben and Tony on C4 now. Who's Tony?
scardis
01-04-2016
Channel 4 are handling their World feed oddly, as the 5 minute intro played on World feed we heard the National anthem, the Chain but then silenced the feed so we didn't hear Charum and Steve talk, the sound came back up a few seconds into Ben talking, just as the track opened.
scardis
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by DEmberton:
“WHS. BBC was far worse in the Jake days.

I don't know if people want nothing but serious po-faced analysis; the personalities are as much of a reason to watch the pre and post show as anything and although Sky have a bit too much Herbert they've always been better IMO.

Ben and Tony on C4 now. Who's Tony?”

Tony Dodgens, used to do all the FP1 sessions for the BBC as well. He was commentary director for the BBC last year.
FOM Fan
01-04-2016
Channel 4 doing full-screen cutaways from the World Feed during the Practice sessions i see. Wish they'd stop that tbh...
stevvy1986
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by FOM Fan:
“Channel 4 doing full-screen cutaways from the World Feed during the Practice sessions i see. Wish they'd stop that tbh...”

Don't often agree with you, but I do agree with this. They should never do full screen cutaways, especially not to just show us someone in the pits talking ie Karun just now, or to show us an interview.
scardis
01-04-2016
And now, the backs of chairs.
FOM Fan
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by stevvy1986:
“Don't often agree with you, but I do agree with this. They should never do full screen cutaways, especially not to just show us someone in the pits talking ie Karun just now, or to show us an interview.”

They're also having a lot more ad breaks during the FP sessions than Sky do. Sky usually just do 3 per session.
D.M.N.
01-04-2016
BBC used to do the same with cut aways. It's the same team leading the coverage so it really shouldn't be a surprise.
DEmberton
01-04-2016
Originally Posted by FOM Fan:
“They're also having a lot more ad breaks during the FP sessions than Sky do. Sky usually just do 3 per session.”

Yes third one in 45 minutes. Fair enough I suppose.

I'm watching on 4OD on my PC now. Having to subscribe and disable ad blocking was a bit annoying, and now I'm getting a "Programme will continue shortly" message - I guess it's waiting for something on the live channel. And obviously not HD.
DanManF1
01-04-2016
Interesting to note that whenever C4 go to ads, Sky do the same thing just a minute or so afterwards. Probably not too difficult to work out why.
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