Quite a few of the OnBoard's on the WEC coverage have some weird ripple effect going on which is making them a bit difficult to watch & probbaly explains why the director is hardly showing any on the world feed.
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I was getting slightly frustrated today with the amount of replays FOM decided to play in during the crazy early stages of the race. Completely unnecessary.
Originally Posted by technoflare:
“The Helicopter FX is really annoying me! It's not normal to hear it, keep the FX on the track.”
“The Helicopter FX is really annoying me! It's not normal to hear it, keep the FX on the track.”
I also hate it that they cut away from a closer angle of an on track battle to the heli shot. There was a lap when Hamilton was closing the gap rapidly to Bottas and it was clear that Lewis would attack very soon. We were riding onboard with Hamilton but the director decided to cut to the heli shot and you could see two little dots in the distance passing each other. Why coudn't they just stick with Hamilton's onboard?? It is just stupid directing.
Originally Posted by Echti:
“I also hate it that they cut away from a closer angle of an on track battle to the heli shot. There was a lap when Hamilton was closing the gap rapidly to Bottas and it was clear that Lewis would attack very soon. We were riding onboard with Hamilton but the director decided to cut to the heli shot and you could see two little dots in the distance passing each other. Why coudn't they just stick with Hamilton's onboard?? It is just stupid directing.”
“I also hate it that they cut away from a closer angle of an on track battle to the heli shot. There was a lap when Hamilton was closing the gap rapidly to Bottas and it was clear that Lewis would attack very soon. We were riding onboard with Hamilton but the director decided to cut to the heli shot and you could see two little dots in the distance passing each other. Why coudn't they just stick with Hamilton's onboard?? It is just stupid directing.”
Not quite as bad as the direction in the first WTCC race today, constantly cutting to shots of people in the pit lane. A number of times just as something interesting was about to happen on track they would cut away.
Originally Posted by bluesmurf:
“Not quite as bad as the direction in the first WTCC race today, constantly cutting to shots of people in the pit lane. A number of times just as something interesting was about to happen on track they would cut away.”
“Not quite as bad as the direction in the first WTCC race today, constantly cutting to shots of people in the pit lane. A number of times just as something interesting was about to happen on track they would cut away.”
I'm genuinely not sure if there's a "major" motorsport series with worse TV direction than WTCC.
I can never forget the WTCC feed a few years back cutting away in the middle of a massive start-line crash to someone in the pits wide-eyed and open-mouthed reacting to a crash still happening that we couldn't actually see!
The main problem with WTCC is that they race on tracks that too big and fast for them. They should take a leaf out of BTCC's book and use the smaller tracks. Of course, the sponsors and their invited guests will be not be so happy with the more rudimentary facilities.
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“The main problem with WTCC is that they race on tracks that too big and fast for them. They should take a leaf out of BTCC's book and use the smaller tracks. Of course, the sponsors and their invited guests will be not be so happy with the more rudimentary facilities.”
“The main problem with WTCC is that they race on tracks that too big and fast for them. They should take a leaf out of BTCC's book and use the smaller tracks. Of course, the sponsors and their invited guests will be not be so happy with the more rudimentary facilities.”
I quite liked their round at the Nordschliefe, but yes, I don't see the point in them flying halfway across the world to have two races of 12 laps or whatever it is most events.
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“The main problem with WTCC is that they race on tracks that too big and fast for them. They should take a leaf out of BTCC's book and use the smaller tracks. Of course, the sponsors and their invited guests will be not be so happy with the more rudimentary facilities.”
“The main problem with WTCC is that they race on tracks that too big and fast for them. They should take a leaf out of BTCC's book and use the smaller tracks. Of course, the sponsors and their invited guests will be not be so happy with the more rudimentary facilities.”
They should also stop racing on shitty temporary street tracks with half-assed generic temporary tyre-barrier chicanes...
Channel 4 were very scaled back this weekend, just DC for punditry, no short films ahead of qualifying or the race. But overall a very good job.
Very decent race today and coverage wasn't bad but the same pundits from Sky week in and out almost, makes it so very stale!
Gridwalk was better this week, hopefully he starts at the back works forward in Russia instead of at the front and getting hardly no one.
Thought Crofty was pretty decent on comms myself!!
The chopper noise was a pisstake and no reason to feed the audio into mix at all. very shabby work there and whoever was directing the race is possibly related to the gimp who directs the UFC. Shot-happy and switching for no reason and cutting away from decent angels for something useless and too far out!
And to use of replays was overboard aswell!
Gridwalk was better this week, hopefully he starts at the back works forward in Russia instead of at the front and getting hardly no one.
Thought Crofty was pretty decent on comms myself!!
The chopper noise was a pisstake and no reason to feed the audio into mix at all. very shabby work there and whoever was directing the race is possibly related to the gimp who directs the UFC. Shot-happy and switching for no reason and cutting away from decent angels for something useless and too far out!
And to use of replays was overboard aswell!
Originally Posted by F1-Addict:
“Came here to say the same. Disappointing to only have 3 static onboard feeds for the whole race showing the likes of Ricciardo running in clean air, not hard to make one of the 3-5 feeds the FOM Mix. As you say, we don't all have the luxury of an iPad and since Sky no longer support the web player I would expect the main onboard feed to at least be on the red button.”
“Came here to say the same. Disappointing to only have 3 static onboard feeds for the whole race showing the likes of Ricciardo running in clean air, not hard to make one of the 3-5 feeds the FOM Mix. As you say, we don't all have the luxury of an iPad and since Sky no longer support the web player I would expect the main onboard feed to at least be on the red button.”
They usually have Hamilton running in clean air, when he's leading he's in clean air anyway. But yes, very poor choice again. I don't have an I-Pad and would love to have the FOM mix - come on Sky
I thought Ben Edwards was poor for Channel 4 today, missed lots of things and generally didn't seem that excited.
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“I thought Ben Edwards was poor for Channel 4 today, missed lots of things and generally didn't seem that excited.”
“I thought Ben Edwards was poor for Channel 4 today, missed lots of things and generally didn't seem that excited.”
Not unusual for the fly aways, ive noticed all the EU based teams seem a bit dozy with the time difference and not having enough time to adjust.
Anyone catch Jacks flubs on 5Live that would make Murray Walker proud? Quite amusing a times - Rosbag!
Originally Posted by dansus:
“Anyone catch Jacks flubs on 5Live that would make Murray Walker proud? Quite amusing a times - Rosbag!”
“Anyone catch Jacks flubs on 5Live that would make Murray Walker proud? Quite amusing a times - Rosbag!
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Nice LOL!!!!
Along those lines, I think Croft calling Rosberg 'Roscoe' around the start of the race deserves an honourable mention.
When I first started watching F1 it was not shown live on TV but later in the day. It didn't matter so much then as there was less news and so you did not accidentally find out the result before watching the race. One huge advantage was that we were treated to in-car footage which was captured on film, processed and then cut into the broadcast after the cars came home. This was years before any other sport had something similar I think. The audiences then were small compared with the peak I think. On the downside the sponsorship was all cigarettes with some alcohol and it was really dangerous.
The technology was much more fun. In those days we had six-wheeled cars, ground-effect skirts, the disappearance of separate chassis, the introduction of composite materials, eight cylinders versus twelve and all manner of variations driven by innovative teams. Now the differences are in the tiny details. Regulations make all of the cars look similar - apart from the paint. While the TV coverage does not follow the whole season on free-to-air and will soon be pay-only.
Their is some irony that the sport has become both boring and costly-to-watch at the same time. What I mean by costly is that if you are only interested in F1 then watching on Sky works out at £27 per race. When Channel 4 loses their selected race programme in a few years then I guess that the price will go even higher.
Many may be thrilled at how the formula is now and happy to pay the viewing fees. I am glad for them and I hope they go on to be the supporters far into the future. For me it feels like F1 is finally dying and probably because I got used to, and liked, the simpler more basic version that it once was. The almost home-brew innovation is long gone along with much of the raw excitement. Drivers stick to the script or get fined. The rules seem draconian and punish anyone who wants to compete rather than join the procession. The image is more slick, and the team managers, the drivers and Bernie are much richer while the excitement and romance have flown.
Has anyone else stopped watching? If so why did you give up?
The technology was much more fun. In those days we had six-wheeled cars, ground-effect skirts, the disappearance of separate chassis, the introduction of composite materials, eight cylinders versus twelve and all manner of variations driven by innovative teams. Now the differences are in the tiny details. Regulations make all of the cars look similar - apart from the paint. While the TV coverage does not follow the whole season on free-to-air and will soon be pay-only.
Their is some irony that the sport has become both boring and costly-to-watch at the same time. What I mean by costly is that if you are only interested in F1 then watching on Sky works out at £27 per race. When Channel 4 loses their selected race programme in a few years then I guess that the price will go even higher.
Many may be thrilled at how the formula is now and happy to pay the viewing fees. I am glad for them and I hope they go on to be the supporters far into the future. For me it feels like F1 is finally dying and probably because I got used to, and liked, the simpler more basic version that it once was. The almost home-brew innovation is long gone along with much of the raw excitement. Drivers stick to the script or get fined. The rules seem draconian and punish anyone who wants to compete rather than join the procession. The image is more slick, and the team managers, the drivers and Bernie are much richer while the excitement and romance have flown.
Has anyone else stopped watching? If so why did you give up?
Originally Posted by Fergie1:
“Along those lines, I think Croft calling Rosberg 'Roscoe' around the start of the race deserves an honourable mention.”
“Along those lines, I think Croft calling Rosberg 'Roscoe' around the start of the race deserves an honourable mention.”
That's the best of the lot!
I've noticed with Croft he sometimes is trying to too hard to describe everything happening on screen (like a radio commentator) instead of just focussing on the really important action. That's how he seemed to miss the Ferrari's colliding.
I know I said Channel 4 did a good job, and they did to be fair, but on the subject of Karun Chandok, who was better used during the race, Channel 4 missed a trick imo by not putting him beside DC and Steve for the post race analysis. They had no Webber, no Wolff, Karun is an ex F1 driver, why not get his perspective on the events. Just a thought.
Originally Posted by _SpeedRacer_:
“I've noticed with Croft he sometimes is trying to too hard to describe everything happening on screen (like a radio commentator) instead of just focussing on the really important action. That's how he seemed to miss the Ferrari's colliding.”
“I've noticed with Croft he sometimes is trying to too hard to describe everything happening on screen (like a radio commentator) instead of just focussing on the really important action. That's how he seemed to miss the Ferrari's colliding.”
He had a bit of an embarrassing screw up: getting all exciting about Vettel battling with Kvyat when what we were watching was Raikonnen battling with Sainz.
Decent race again, and having stuck with C4 for Bahrain I was pleased to get back to Croft, Brundle and co. for this one. I think I might be buying the NowTV pass even for the races C4 have live.
Originally Posted by _SpeedRacer_:
“That's the best of the lot!
I've noticed with Croft he sometimes is trying to too hard to describe everything happening on screen (like a radio commentator) instead of just focussing on the really important action. That's how he seemed to miss the Ferrari's colliding.”
“That's the best of the lot!
I've noticed with Croft he sometimes is trying to too hard to describe everything happening on screen (like a radio commentator) instead of just focussing on the really important action. That's how he seemed to miss the Ferrari's colliding.”
I did notice that too. He was very descriptive and that must stem from his radio days.
I have not stopped watching...yet. I watched my 1st GP in 1980 Monaco and have seen highlights or live every race since except Japan 2002. I watch FTA. I have no intention of ever subscribing even though with a viewing record like that I must be considered a proper fan. I have attended 3 GPs.
There is a lot of talk about how bad the sport is getting and I understand why. But to me on TV it is hard to tell how the speed is or the sound. People also criticise Merc dominance but surely the Schumacher years from 2000-05 were more one-sided.I did not hear as much complaining about dominance then and even though I have always liked Schumacher, my interest was not as strong hence the missing of the 02 Jap GP.
It would appear that from 2019 there will be same day highlights either for an hour or so at 11pm-ish or .similar to what we have now or something in between. That will do me.
There is a lot of talk about how bad the sport is getting and I understand why. But to me on TV it is hard to tell how the speed is or the sound. People also criticise Merc dominance but surely the Schumacher years from 2000-05 were more one-sided.I did not hear as much complaining about dominance then and even though I have always liked Schumacher, my interest was not as strong hence the missing of the 02 Jap GP.
It would appear that from 2019 there will be same day highlights either for an hour or so at 11pm-ish or .similar to what we have now or something in between. That will do me.
Originally Posted by DEmberton:
“He had a bit of an embarrassing screw up: getting all exciting about Vettel battling with Kvyat when what we were watching was Raikonnen battling with Sainz.”
“He had a bit of an embarrassing screw up: getting all exciting about Vettel battling with Kvyat when what we were watching was Raikonnen battling with Sainz.”
To be fair, FOM got confused as well and put the wrong graphics up.
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