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The radio coaching ban was a small step in the right direction. Now remove most of the sensors so the engineers don't have a clue either. Bingo, 1983 all over again!
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The first bit of your analysis is right, but the second is wrong. Yes usually one team works out the new rules better than other teams, but historically other teams catch up pretty quickly because the rules enabled a variety of solutions and paths to victory. What we have now is new rules come into place, one team works them out better than anyone else and it's impossible for other teams to catch up. We have the worst of all worlds, a pseudo-single spec series but without the level playing field.
Chances are if it did happen certain cars would have a big advantage at some races, and the others at different races, which is often what happened with the tyre war. Might have made the championship closer, but the individual races were dull (though Damon Hill nearly winning for Arrows in Hungary was something special). |
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Is that true? When we've had one team being able to do something innovative either it's been promptly banned (fan car) or once the legality has been established the other teams have copied it (double diffuser). I can't think of a time where there were ever significantly different cars of equal performance, except maybe when we had some cars with KERS and some not.
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Chances are if it did happen certain cars would have a big advantage at some races, and the others at different races, which is often what happened with the tyre war. Might have made the championship closer, but the individual races were dull (though Damon Hill nearly winning for Arrows in Hungary was something special).
97 was a really good season, the big problem was it was at the peak of overtaking being difficult (the Italian GP was an extraordinarily close race but no one could get past anyone else !), would have had a lot more classic races that season but for that.
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I wouldn't argue that strongly to bring back a tyre war, but I would like there to be as many compounds available to the teams as realistically possible. Late 80s/early 90s had four. Now maybe that is one too many, but it definitely meant you got a range of strategies throughout a race.
Maybe even bring back the specialist qualifying tyre as well. That'd throw a bit of as spanner in the works |
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Jamie McGregor and Enoch Law are back doing their Rejects Podcasts (formerly known as F1 Rejects). http://www.spreaker.com/show/the-rejects-podcast
Also on iTunes (if you can get it to work). https://twitter.com/RejectsPodcast |
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Jamie McGregor and Enoch Law are back doing their Rejects Podcasts (formerly known as F1 Rejects). http://www.spreaker.com/show/the-rejects-podcast
Also on iTunes (if you can get it to work). https://twitter.com/RejectsPodcast I know there was some stuff mentioned on there about trademarks, but that doesn't explain why all the articles were removed etc. & the podcast being totally spun off. |
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I wonder if there was a split between them & the rest of the F1/Grand Prix Rejects website? I notice the new GPRejects website makes no mention of the podcast at all...
I know there was some stuff mentioned on there about trademarks, but that doesn't explain why all the articles were removed etc. & the podcast being totally spun off. https://www.formula1.com/content/fom...uidelines.html A post by 'Simtek' on this thread: http://gprejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7697 "F1 Rejects received a cease and desist order from FOM for the use of the 'F1' trademark, which meant the whole website had to be taken down. The forum still operated for a little while after that while Biscione set up a new website, the one you are looking at right now." The original site was run by them. The new gprejects site and forum is run by devotees of the old site & podcast. Clearly the new site is a 'work in progress'. The site does have #MAKEHAASGREATAGAIN in the footer of each page. If you go to the gprejects Forum, and then the 'The HWSNBN Memorial Forum', the third announcement down is about the latest Rejects podcast '160325 MAKE HAAS GREAT AGAIN EDITION'. http://gprejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7707 |
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Dronecam... https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2016...from-shanghai/ Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Saward
If all goes to plan Monza in September will see the first use of TV drones at a Formula 1 event. This is a great idea to create better coverage but there has been some discussion with the FIA over where such machines will be allowed to fly because the federation does not want drones crashing down on to the racing circuit. In Shanghai there was another new idea being tried by the Formula One TV folks with a handheld multi-axis camera stabilization device that allows a cameraman to work at speed, moving with the subject of his filming, without any hint of camera shake. Further new ideas are expected.
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Potential for cost cutting. Fewer camera helicopters, fewer camera operators up on mobile cranes.
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So they won't use railcams that go over the track anymore because of fears of incidents like this, but are happy to use Drones because of course this would never happen.
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BTCC did it years ago.Once, and never again. Which in fairness is a typical FOM approach on new technology
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WRC have been using Drones this year after a successful trial last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9SsGgvUluI |
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Just a random question, what happened to the FOM cameramen having to wear helmets in the pitlane after Germany 2013? Whenever I see them on TV now they're not, so a tyre could easily hit them on the head.
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So they won't use railcams that go over the track anymore because of fears of incidents like this, but are happy to use Drones because of course this would never happen.
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I expressed this fear a couple of years ago after Echti posted pics of FOM testing drones at (i think) the Nurburgring, yet everyone else on here was like "Don't be silly, i'm sure they'll be fine... Great Idea" -_-
If it were Silverstone with huge run offs the drones could be restricted to flying over the run off areas and then there's little risk to either the cars or the crowd. Assuming that is nothing goes wrong. WRC obviously has far more to gain. |
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Sky adverts
I know that Sky have started having an ad break after the National Anthem. Have they also started with ad breaks between Q1/Q2 and Q2/Q3 as Ch4 do ?
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I just saw this video posted around in response to the article talking about FOM using drones, One nearly hit a skier during an event last year :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYFdh1w_n6M |
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I know that Sky have started having an ad break after the National Anthem. Have they also started with ad breaks between Q1/Q2 and Q2/Q3 as Ch4 do ?
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Thought the podium interviewer was pretty good there. Crofty struggled on the first lap and during the busier earlier periods.
i know that Kai's (spelling!) 1st language is not English, but that was just f*****ng embarrassing! |
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Ad breaks between qualifying sessions I can see, but also during the race? Sky generally try not to infuriate their customers, which adverts during the race would surely do. The worst I could imagine is some sort of split screen where viewers can still watch the race with an ad at the same time.
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please tell me you're being sarcastic?
i know that Kai's (spelling!) 1st language is not English, but that was just f*****ng embarrassing!
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Why? Unlike the celebrity's he actually knew what happened in the race, held firm when Vettel questioned his judgement about his front wing (he was right) and asked them about the relevant incidents in the race. What are you expecting from the interviews?
![]() Thanks for update on Sky Ads. I agree ads in qualy will probably happen. Once Sky are exclusive, viewers won't be able to swap channels when ads come on. Even if there are no in-race ads, expect breaks closer to the race at both ends.... |
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Thanks for update on Sky Ads. I agree ads in qualy will probably happen. Once Sky are exclusive, viewers won't be able to swap channels when ads come on.
Sky's increase in ads is a little annoying. There were several times in the pre show where it was obvious from Simon Lazenby that we were about get a filler-montage followed by an ad break. In truth I'd mind it less if I could pause NowTV and catch up like I used to. |
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I would suspect the contract doesn't allow ads between the 5 minute board (World feed program start) and the Podium.
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