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Old 03-08-2016, 10:36
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I think the problem isn't the opening or even the first week internationally. It'l get big numbers. Problem will be if people don't spread the word tell mates to see it or the films re watch value. BatsVSups had good opening numbers but everyone hated it and didn't go to re watch it. Didn't even pass a billion which most big movies do these days.
I think that's going to be the big factor, whether anyone will go back and rewatch it at the cinema. There has been only 2 films that I went back to the cinema to see again; Deadpool and Captain America: Civil War.

Its longativity that matters really, not big opening weekend numbers.

Also I have booked to see Suicide Squad on Sunday

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Old 03-08-2016, 11:19
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Some spoiler free reviews I have seen today

"SS is a pretty dark movie. its also a lot of fun with good acting and a lot of DC easter eggs"

"SS is a mess. Sometimes an entertaining mess. Sometimes an unbelievably disastrous mess. I don't really know what the f*** it is."

"Deranged, demented, occasionally shocking, often uneven....very....odd".
I'd call that pretty mixed.

Easter eggs are nice, but I hope there aren't too many. ...At least not so many that the plot gets buried under them (BvS).

I haven't been impressed by the designs of The Joker (Damaged? What?!) or Harley (not enough black/red), but costumes aren't everything. I will keep an open mind, and I want to enjoy it so that should help.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:33
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Didn't even pass a billion which most big movies do these days.
BvS was expected to do a billion, but to say most big movies do isn't really true.

Any film that makes over $500m ww is a big film in a way, and after that you just have big films bigger than other big films. So far this year nine films have passed that $500m mark and of those two have made a billion. In 2015 (a bumper year) there were fourteen, with five hitting the billion. 2014 had fifteen but only one hit the jackpot.

It's obviously not a given and still an extraordinary achievement for any that does it.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:34
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You know fanboyism should be made illegal really.
So sick of petty little boys throwing a hissy fit just because other dislike their precious little film.
Dc this Ghostbusters that, get over it already!
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:53
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So MrSuper your statement that the script is bad was based on just the recent reviews and nothing else?

Maybe you should watch the film yourself before making statements and judgements like that!
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:05
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I will keep an open mind, and I want to enjoy it so that should help.
I have no allegiance at all to DC or Marvel, I just want to be entertained and come out feeling that it was worth the money.

I really hope I am at odds with majority of the critics with this one.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:30
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So MrSuper your statement that the script is bad was based on just the recent reviews and nothing else?

Maybe you should watch the film yourself before making statements and judgements like that!
I already said I am. Stop getting your knickers in a twist! It's just a film, not the end of the world!
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Old 03-08-2016, 13:44
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Interesting article from Hollywood Reporter on the issues with the making of the film. No spoilers.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...source=twitter
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Old 03-08-2016, 14:04
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Interesting article from Hollywood Reporter on the issues with the making of the film. No spoilers.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...source=twitter
What is going on at WB? It really shouldn't be this difficult.
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Old 03-08-2016, 14:11
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What is going on at WB? It really shouldn't be this difficult.
It shouldn't, should it!
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Old 03-08-2016, 14:53
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More studio meddling and interference. No surprise there!
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Old 03-08-2016, 14:58
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Interesting article from Hollywood Reporter on the issues with the making of the film. No spoilers.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...source=twitter
I see that article confirms my cost to break-even ratio re. Hollywood movies:

....raising the stakes for Suicide Squad, which cost at least $175 million to make.
The movie's got to do $750 million, $800 million to break even.
I hope anyone who is still of the misguided opinion that as soon as a movie earns $1 over its production costs it's "in-profit" will read and absorb the above.
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Old 03-08-2016, 15:18
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I hope anyone who is still of the misguided opinion that as soon as a movie earns $1 over its production costs it's "in-profit" will read and absorb the above.
It's amazing how many people view that, the Critic standing in for Kermode seemed to be under the illusion that Ghostbusters was doing great because it had made $159M Worldwide (today's gross) and the film cost $144M so was in profit. And this is a Professional Critic
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Old 03-08-2016, 15:21
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I see that article confirms my cost to break-even ratio re. Hollywood movies:





I hope anyone who is still of the misguided opinion that as soon as a movie earns $1 over its production costs it's "in-profit" will read and absorb the above.
How can anyone think that. Production costs don't take into account so many other things.
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Old 03-08-2016, 15:32
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How can anyone think that. Production costs don't take into account so many other things.
I've seen it time and again, here and elsewhere and from people who really should know better.
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Old 03-08-2016, 16:06
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Yes MrSuper I know it's just a film that I'm going to watch and judge myself from watching it

I'm not as you say getting my knickers in a twist about it

I'm will wait until I watch it though before judging the script myself as I do with every film
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Old 03-08-2016, 19:12
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I seriously don't know why someone during the whole process never watched Batman: 'The Assault on Arkham' and thought you know what, that was cool let's do real life movie of this animation. I thought the film was going to be similar to that animated movie.

Make Joker the main villain, make him the chief obstacle to the Squad.

Don't make the Joker "Bad", make him "Evil". He shouldn't be some love sick puppy that plays a secondary role, when he can be the chief antagonist of your story. Imagine him going toe to toe with the Squad throughout the film, messing with Harley, and then getting his ass kicked in a glorious fashion at the end.

Would have been amazing!!
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Old 03-08-2016, 19:22
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Shocked this has received so many bad reviews. On paper it looks like a film that couldn't miss and would be one of the best and biggest hits of the years. A edgy concept, a quality writer/director and a tremendous cast.
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Old 03-08-2016, 19:35
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Shocked this has received so many bad reviews. On paper it looks like a film that couldn't miss and would be one of the best and biggest hits of the years. A edgy concept, a quality writer/director and a tremendous cast.
It will probably still do well regardless.
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Old 03-08-2016, 21:29
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It's estimated to have a good opening weekend but a previous poster questioned the longevity of it which is a problem that Batman Vs Superman had when it was released!
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Old 03-08-2016, 21:44
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It's estimated to have a good opening weekend but a previous poster questioned the longevity of it which is a problem that Batman Vs Superman had when it was released!
Longevity is were reviews do matter. The Dark Knight was going to be a big hit regardless, but it made so much money because of feedback from fans and critics raving over the acting and depth. Also why Guardians of the Galaxy did better than expected.
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Old 03-08-2016, 23:17
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WB just really seem to suck at continuity of Superhero movies. The first run of Batman movies started well with Batman & Batman returns the next two were dire. They only managed to pull of The Dark Night trilogy by keeping Christpher Nolan at the helm. BvS was terrible, Superman they only ever managed to pull of The first two movies and Superman 2 was a production nightmare before release with the original being held up in reshoots. Both Superman returns and Man of Steel were painful to watch for different reasons.
The DC Cinematic Universe has been a bit of a shambles with films being green lit then never making it into production and what ones have being really badly done The Green Lantern a prime example.
I like the look of SS but will wait for small screen release as I can't sit through another WB/DC Superhero movie in the cinema.
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Old 03-08-2016, 23:19
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DC are going under if they don't shape up soon.
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Old 03-08-2016, 23:29
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Interesting that so far on IMDB it has a very good rating.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386697/?ref_=nv_sr_1

I don't know what to think about the reviews. Some of them make me suspicious due to who's providing them and from which sites they're from.

I think I'd take professional reviews with a pinch of salt at the moment and wait until it's released to see what the general public think.
It might actually be good entertainment for all I know.

Whatever the film is like it's worth noting that WB must have spent a huge amount of money on promotion and marketing. So they really need it to do well when they've got this DC cinema universe which they intended to forge ahead with and which they've invested so much into already.
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Old 03-08-2016, 23:58
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Interesting that so far on IMDB it has a very good rating.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386697/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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Because 99.9% of the people voting for it haven't seen it yet as it's not been released. I could easily go there and rate it a 10.
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