what is your point?


that's simply matter or opinion. plus of course people who are into hifi usually want sound that's considered considerably better than "good"


i would say that was just basic common sense and the same applies to buying anything if you are interested in buying correctly

certainly i would imagine most people interested in hifi would carefully consider their system. i certainly did, and everyone else i know personally who has a similar interest in hifi has done the same

however remember people have budget restrictions, and even if some could potentially spend thousands on a turntable, it wouldn't necessarily be a wise decision for their personal finances


again this is just basic common sense. i doubt many real hifi enthusiasts wouldn't know this. it still doesn't mean you won't have pops and clicks and flutter and wow etc when playing records though


that's one of the problems of vinly. you don't get problems like that with cds that have been looked after reasonably, even if they are decades old, and even if they have been played thousands of times


so your system still makes pops and clicks when playing records? sounds that weren't on the original recording. and that's after following your own advice. or what some would say was basic common sense


that's just common sense again. but at the end of the day you will still get issues like pops and clicks and wow and flutter, rumble, hissing, etc with vinyl that you don't get with digital formats. plus of course you can get higher quality sound from digital formats than records, with sounds closer to the original masters than vinyl, due to the lack of introducing artifacts with the medium


no it wouldn't. you could have both mastered well but the vinyl introducing pops and clicks etc that the digital format wouldn't introduce

perhaps you don't hear it, but i bet many other people could. particularly if the volume was turned up, and / or headphones were on

of course you can't buy brand new copies of a large percentage of music today, so if you want something on vinyl you don't already have then you are restricted to having to buy from the second hand market in most cases

and even with your new vinyl, the more you play it, the more it will get worn out which will affect the sound. you don't get that with digital formats apart from potentially tape based ones

Why do you keep returning to the idea that good turntables cost thousands when that is simply untrue?

For many, many years there have been good turntables at all price points, from entry-level through to high-end. A £200 turntable is the right choice for someone building a starter hi-fi system, an £800 turntable would be worth considering for a serious upgrade and so on. A good quality turntable will not have audible wow and flutter or rumble, regardless of its price.

I've mixed feelings about this series.

They do seem to be using official sources, even on recordings whose copyrights have expired, so the sound quality shouldn't be a problem as long as the master tapes have survived.

However, based on the tentative listing of upcoming releases printed on the back cover, they seem to be only sourcing material from the catalogues of two of the three remaining major labels, namely Sony and Universal. This means nothing from Atlantic, the various old labels owned by Concord Music (Prestige, Contemporary, Riverside, Pablo etc.) or ECM, to name just three.

Indeed, £200 will get you a very nice turntable such as a Pro-Ject.

i haven't. i haven't said that. so why do you keep thinking something that is simply untrue?

what is considered a "good" turntable is simply subjective



that may be your opinion. but i would disagree. there are many sub £100 turntables for example, and i wouldn't consider any of them to be good. but that's my opinion


no it wouldn't. that's simply your opinion and you are over generalising

it depends on peoples budget. some may wish to start higher up the chain and others may not have that kind of money to spend

it doesn't however suggest that it's unlikely you would consider one of the sub £100 turntables like the stuff sold in clothes shops to be "good" though


again not true. again you've over generalised. someone with a rega rp8 wouldn't be worth considering an £800 turntable for a serious upgrade, would they?


that's completely and utterley wrong

I noticed on the DeAgostini UK site that they're doing a Beatles Vinyl collection - basically it's all the official albums repressed on 180g vinyl - single albums are £16.99 while double and triple albums retail at £24.99

Details by following the link below.

http://www.deagostini.com/minisites/uk/collections/beatles-vinyl-collection/