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Old 22-01-2016, 23:03
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I am not surprised with Chris Chibnall being the next show runner (good luck to him - he will need it). He has plenty of show running experience and has written enough sci fi to know what it entails. I've found his DW episodes to be mainly solid without being spectacular but having some strong elements - to be fair I'd need to re-watch a few to pass judgement.

The other bonus is that I can now re-watch Life on Mars and Torchwood again. I am not great at remembering Torchwood episode names but I've got a feeling he wrote some of the stronger ones/my favourite ones - which is good. I did like Broadchurch which i though was well-crafted - I preferred series 2 over 1 which makes me a minority I think.

I was expecting the scheduling to be this so am not surprised or too disappointed.

My hopes are:

Series 10 gives Capaldi consistently good scripts to perform.
The new companion has both character and a character arc.
Capaldi stays for Chibnell's first series at least (though I will understand if that doesn't happen)

and probably most importantly..

Chibnell gets a fair crack of the whip to prove himself!
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:04
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I cannot believe we have to wait until Spring 2018 for Chris Chibnall's Doctor Who.

TWO years!!! That's just cruel
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:04
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You never know. He might choose to leave in the same fashion as RTD ie really quietly with almost zero publicity or hype and with a quiet, thoughtful meditative character piece as his last episode.
I see what you did there.

Chibnall was the one I suspected would take over ever since he was given the Pond Life assignment. We know he can make good drama, even if his Who achievements haven't been stellar. Perhaps low expectations will work in his favour and he'll work hard to make it good and not trust too much in his own brilliance.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:06
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I guess for me some of the excitement came back with Capaldi, Jenna Coleman and especially with Series 9 in general. As the writers got announced I was so pleased when certain names didn't crop up, and though I don't like to pinpoint very often in such a critical way I'll admit Chibnall was one of them. It's been nine years since I saw something of his I liked, and since then I've not only been unbothered by what he's written it's ranked as some of my all-time least favourite stuff. RTD and Moffat already hold the spots for my two least favourite episodes, as is somewhat expected when you contribute as many episodes as they both do. It's a little disconcerting (for me, not speaking for anyone else) that before he's even got the job Chibnall holds the spot for the my third and fourth least favourite episodes already - if I were to go by how I rank them. Put more simply, Chibnall's easily one of my three least favourite writers for Who. He's utterly uninspiring so far, and not someone I envisioned even writing another episode - let alone running the joint.

It's a hell of a job trying to remain optimistic when there's a chance your joint-favourite Doctor may be going out sooner rather than later too, and there's also a post-series blues period that isn't going to be relieved by a new series on the horizon any time soon. I guess I'll just have to fight the cynicism!
Agreed with everything you say. You beat me to it but I edited my post to get rid of the bit about falling out of love with the show as it sounded terribly whiny and melodramatic and I am sure it will return again as and when Moffats final season arrives and we have the prospect of maybe a new Doctor and a brand new era. But you're right- I think the possibility of Capaldi leaving is worse than Moffat going because I think Moffat has had his time on the show. But then like I say I dont think it is best if Capaldi stays. So yes. I'm all very conflicted and feeling very meh in general. They could at least have given us a special or two!
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:06
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Well, I'm prepared to wait and see what Chibnall actually does when he takes over stewardship next year. Once I've seen what he does with the show, only then will I decide whether I like it or not.
I know that's a rather strange viewpoint round here, but I'm an old fashioned sort of chap.
Boo. Call yourself a fan? Get that knee jerking with the rest of us!
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:08
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I cannot believe we have to wait until Spring 2018 for Chris Chibnall's Doctor Who.

TWO years!!! That's just cruel
Twitter is in Meltdown about it.
But the hints have been there for a while looking back.
PC saying he wanted to do other things. Moffat is clearly focused on other projects and I just wonder if casting a new companion has been harder than they imagined
looks like that long thread about no who in 2016 was right all along
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:10
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Agreed entirely. My friends actually messaged me with "Moffat's gone!" because it means that much to them (and yet I'm the fan on a DW forum ). I think they get so carried away with what's to go that they don't quite figure out whether what they've got is potentially any better. They're really not a fan of Moffat.
Here were some of the reactions to RTD leaving the show. History repeats itself. :P

http://m.forums.theregister.co.uk/fo...ies_naffs_off/
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:10
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And for all the fans who are getting worked up one way or another about Chibnall's appointment, remember that the vast majority of Doctor Who watchers will not care one teeny bit who the showrunner is.
People will watch if the show is good and grabs their interest, (and is on at a sensible time) - or if the show doesn't do this, they'll find something else to do. Whoever the showrunner is, won't matter at all to 99% of the viewers.
For that matter, just to put things into a bit more perspective, the vast majority of what's written here, or on other fan forums, doesn't matter at all to the BBC.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:10
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Moffat: "Fancy Who?"

Chibnall: "What...?"

Moffat: "That's fantastic (throws to him metaphorical keys). Have fun!"
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:11
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Very interesting tweet from Mark Gatiss-

'Sclavus liberatus felix est x'
'The freed slave is happy'

Make of that what you will. I think its quite obvious...
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:13
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Boo. Call yourself a fan? Get that knee jerking with the rest of us!

Got a bit of a gammy leg...
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:14
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Moffat: "Fancy Who?"

Chibnall: "What...?"

Moffat: "That's fantastic (throws to him metaphorical keys). Have fun!"
This is probably closer to the truth than some might think.

It seems to have become a common myth, mostly spoken by his detractors, that Moffat is some evil emperor who has refused to relinquish control of the show. I think this is utter nonsense. Look at the Gatiss tweet. Though he wont say as much (yet) I think its quite likely Moffat will be glad to leave.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:17
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This is probably closer to the truth than some might think.

It seems to have become a common myth, mostly spoken by his detractors, that Moffat is some evil emperor who has refused to relinquish control of the show. I think this is utter nonsense. Look at the Gatiss tweet. Though he wont say as much (yet) I think its quite likely Moffat will be glad to leave.
I agree, suspect he's stayed on from a sense of duty to the show for a while now.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:17
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It's time for Moff to go, but it is a shame there will be no Who this year.

However, I am gutted that the Chib is taking over. I'll give him a chance, but I'm really dreading it. I guess by 2018 I will be nearing my 30's, so it might be time to say goodbye to the show, but I will give him a chance. I did like some of his Torchwood episodes, but I haven't liked one of his Who ones. Not a good day for a lot of Doctor Who fans.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:22
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Yeah I know what you mean. I love Moffats work but I wouldnt say he should stay. I dont think he should. I am happy he's got S10 but again I dont think I would be that upset if he was going after the Xmas special. As for Chibnall it inspires neither anger or excitement. I'm not sure thats a good thing really. I just am not excited at all especially if Chibnall does represent a move backwards. Who knows. Maybe I'm just suffering post-season blues! I am just so unbothered about the whole thing at the moment. I think the prospect of a year with no new episodes proper is not helping my enthusiasm.
6 years is probably enough its not an easy job, and it was obviously causing issues with Sherlock as well, but I think unless season 10 hits it Ill always be slightly disappointed the Moffat era never quite hit the marks for me, it was better than RTD era for sure but I felt Moffats tenure as much as it echoed classic who in parts, and I liked the 50th anniversary,it became far too convoluted or obtuse at times for its own good.

Chibnall Ive no opinion on, I never liked Torchwood, and I couldnt have told you which Doctor Who episodes he'd written without looking them up.

but no more Who till next year, exc the christmas special, thats not good, even if it means a more predictable timeslot, like thats guaranteed anyway, I assume Capaldi will find something to do in the meantime, but expect he wont stay beyond his current contract.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:22
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This is every Chibnall episode he has written on Doctor Who and Torchwood.

42- Am i the only one who liked this episode? I thought it was creepy, enjoyable and a good idea

Silurian 2 parter- Not the best episode but the story had merit and some great moments

Dinosaurs on a Spaceship- One of the best episodes of season 7, it was funny, lighthearted but it also had some not so light moments. Like when the Doctor let that lad die.

Power of Three- Nothing amazing, interesting idea of a story, but it was solid. And some good character development.

Cyberwoman- Not a good story at all

Countrycide- Amazing story this one, and wow it was creepy

End of Days- Trusted with the finale, was an average episode

Adrift- Definitely a more serious episode and was a good one

Fragments/Exit Wounds - Amazing episodes, and dealt with the character deaths very well.

That isn't a bad resume for Chibnall. He can write horror episodes well, writes the characters well, can do very serious episodes, can do some light hearted episodes and he knows the show very well.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:25
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This is every Chibnall episode he has written on Doctor Who and Torchwood.

42- Am i the only one who liked this episode? I thought it was creepy, enjoyable and a good idea

Silurian 2 parter- Not the best episode but the story had merit and some great moments

Dinosaurs on a Spaceship- One of the best episodes of season 7, it was funny, lighthearted but it also had some not so light moments. Like when the Doctor let that lad die.

Power of Three- Nothing amazing, interesting idea of a story, but it was solid. And some good character development.

Cyberwoman- Not a good story at all

Countrycide- Amazing story this one, and wow it was creepy

End of Days- Trusted with the finale, was an average episode

Adrift- Definitely a more serious episode and was a good one

Fragments/Exit Wounds - Amazing episodes, and dealt with the character deaths very well.

That isn't a bad resume for Chibnall. He can write horror episodes well, writes the characters well, can do very serious episodes, can do some light hearted episodes and he knows the show very well.
42 is his only Doctor Who episode I've remotely liked. The Hungry Earth, Cold Blood, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and The Power of Three would all rank in my bottom ten ever.

Admittedly I never realised that he wrote Adrift - which ranks as my favourite non-Children of Earth episode of Torchwood. So to give him his dues he's really impressed me...once.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:26
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I expect the new companion will bridge the show runner transition, while Capaldi will likely leave at the end of Series 10, regenerating into

...The Thirteenth Doctor.

Chibnall's screwed.
Why is he screwed exactly?
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:32
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all i can think now is I'm 30 when it comes back.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:33
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This is every Chibnall episode he has written on Doctor Who and Torchwood.

42- Am i the only one who liked this episode? I thought it was creepy, enjoyable and a good idea

Silurian 2 parter- Not the best episode but the story had merit and some great moments

Dinosaurs on a Spaceship- One of the best episodes of season 7, it was funny, lighthearted but it also had some not so light moments. Like when the Doctor let that lad die.

Power of Three- Nothing amazing, interesting idea of a story, but it was solid. And some good character development.

Cyberwoman- Not a good story at all

Countrycide- Amazing story this one, and wow it was creepy

End of Days- Trusted with the finale, was an average episode

Adrift- Definitely a more serious episode and was a good one

Fragments/Exit Wounds - Amazing episodes, and dealt with the character deaths very well.

That isn't a bad resume for Chibnall. He can write horror episodes well, writes the characters well, can do very serious episodes, can do some light hearted episodes and he knows the show very well.
I can't say I've particularly enjoyed any of those episodes, especially not with Torchwood as besides CoE I didn't particularly like the whole direction of that show.

I will give him a chance, but if I don't feel his vision is working for me then I may have to pass on the show for the forseeable future. I wouldn't want to be one of those who ruins it for everyone else by moaning every week about how the show is ruined.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:34
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I can't say I've particularly enjoyed any of those episodes, especially not with Torchwood as besides CoE I didn't particularly like the whole direction of that show.

I will give him a chance, but if I don't feel his vision is working for me then I may have to pass on the show for the forseeable future. I wouldn't want to be one of those who ruins it for everyone else by moaning every week about how the show is ruined.
As long as people give him a fair chance it doesn't bother me.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:36
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It's time for Moff to go, but it is a shame there will be no Who this year.

However, I am gutted that the Chib is taking over. I'll give him a chance, but I'm really dreading it. I guess by 2018 I will be nearing my 30's, so it might be time to say goodbye to the show, but I will give him a chance. I did like some of his Torchwood episodes, but I haven't liked one of his Who ones. Not a good day for a lot of Doctor Who fans.

Fair enough if people want to watch a Chibnall-produced DW.

But personally, I dislike Chibnall's writing so much I'm actually going to stop watching "Doctor Who" when he takes over. Looks like the the "Classic Who" threads only, for me from now on!
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:39
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Far enough if people want to watch a Chibnall-produced DW.

But personally, I dislike Chibnall's writing so much I'm actually going to stop watching "Doctor Who" when he takes over. Looks like the the "Classic Who" threads only, for me from now on!
How about you give him a try as showrunner to begin with.
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:39
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As long as people give him a fair chance it doesn't bother me.
The difficult part of that, though, is how much exactly is a fair chance? Would it be half a series in and giving it a rest, or a few episodes into every series to see how it's shaping?
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Old 22-01-2016, 23:39
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Very interesting tweet from Mark Gatiss-

'Sclavus liberatus felix est x'
'The freed slave is happy'

Make of that what you will. I think its quite obvious...
Yep, Moffat has kept with Doctor Who while a replacement could be found. He's a fan after all, he would rather stay in charge than leave the show in the lurch. For that I will be grateful to him.

I've been happy with Moffats era, like Russell before him for every Pandorica Opens there's been a The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe. Not every episode was perfect but some were stellar. But some of the comments elsewhere are not called for.

I'm happy to reserve judgment on Chibnall, his episodes have been a mixed bag for me (42 was letdown by some of the guest cast than the story tbh and the Power of Three needed some tweaks to its ending), but there is the potential for a good and different era.

I just hope that they choose the right actor for The Doctor should Peter leave with Moffat, not just go for a mirror of Tennant as some want (no disrespect to him but The Doctor should move on not be a tool for fangirls to fawn over). Not that I want Peter to leave, if he could break the 3 series pattern that's been established that would be excellent but all the signs are there......

Edit - biggest disappointment I can see at the minute is the prospect of two Christmas specials in a row continuity wise!
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