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oathy
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sam_Gee1:
“As long as people give him a fair chance it doesn't bother me.”

I agree a few of those episodes aren't top of my list.
Just have this longstanding feeling the storylines need to be decluttered.
Its like we were spying on someone with OCD who never knew when some stories were complete That's been my issue with Moffat for the past two series.

looking forward to see what he does with the show. Actually hope PC sticks around at least for one series to see if it was just the wrong actor or how he performs with someone else as showrunner.
Sam_Gee1
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lord Smexy:
“The difficult part of that, though, is how much exactly is a fair chance? Would it be half a series in and giving it a rest, or a few episodes into every series to see how it's shaping?”

That is really up to you, but definitely checking out the first couple episodes. If you don't like that, then do whatever you want.
Residents Fan
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sam_Gee1:
“How about you give him a try as showrunner to begin with.”

I don't know. I might watch the first Chibnall-produced episode to be fair, but everything I've seen by him has never appealed to me-even his praised work like the first season of
"Broadchurch".
Abomination
23-01-2016
It's good at any rate to see the news being such a big thing to people. Doctor Who is the fifth biggest trend in the USA right now, and is a top trend in the UK and Australia as well as others. It's also trending on Facebook and Tumblr, whilst I received a 'breaking news' notification from the BBC News app on my phone (definitely priority news in the world! )... It's a show that people clearly still care about, which is always good to hear - especially when there's been so much cynicism from people this past year.
Lord Smexy
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“It's good at any rate to see the news being such a big thing to people. Doctor Who is the fifth biggest trend in the USA right now, and is a top trend in the UK and Australia as well as others. It's also trending on Facebook and Tumblr, whilst I received a 'breaking news' notification from the BBC News app on my phone (definitely priority news in the world! )... It's a show that people clearly still care about, which is always good to hear - especially when there's been so much cynicism from people this past year.”

Perhaps people are just so ecstatic to see Moffat going and by tomorrow morning we'll see him on BBC News being made to walk the plank by a bunch of rowdy drunks.
Abomination
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lord Smexy:
“Perhaps people are just so ecstatic to see Moffat going and by tomorrow morning we'll see him on BBC News being made to walk the plank by a bunch of rowdy drunks. ”

Indeed, a wild Friday night probably wasn't the best time for the announcement

The big question is which rowdy drunk is it that gives him the final nudge? RTD, Chibnall, Capaldi, Caroline Skinner? The ghost of Mary Whitehouse?
Mulett
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“It's good at any rate to see the news being such a big thing to people. Doctor Who is the fifth biggest trend in the USA right now, and is a top trend in the UK and Australia as well as others. It's also trending on Facebook and Tumblr, whilst I received a 'breaking news' notification from the BBC News app on my phone (definitely priority news in the world! )... It's a show that people clearly still care about, which is always good to hear - especially when there's been so much cynicism from people this past year.”

Any idea what's the main topic Abomination? The new lead writer or the "no season this year"?
TARDIS Blue
23-01-2016
About time we had a new showrunner. The series needs some fresh blood in charge.

Disappointed, but not at all surprised, that there is no series this year. Even another specials year would have been preferable.

Not sure what to make of Chibnall taking the reigns. I loved Broadchurch but his work on Doctor Who hasn't been anything special. I will give him a chance though.
Lord Smexy
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“Indeed, a wild Friday night probably wasn't the best time for the announcement

The big question is which rowdy drunk is it that gives him the final nudge? RTD, Chibnall, Capaldi, Caroline Skinner? The ghost of Mary Whitehouse? ”

Perhaps his wife?

"I know what went on between you and Jenna Coleman, I watched the bleedin' show!"
CrowleySr
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“I cannot believe we have to wait until Spring 2018 for Chris Chibnall's Doctor Who.

TWO years!!! That's just cruel ”

I remember the good old days of the old, cheap series. Doctors and showrunners came and went, but the show still turned up in the schedules year after year

Still, this is the new and improved way of doing things
Abomination
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“Any idea what's the main topic Abomination? The new lead writer or the "no season this year"?”

Well in the UK on Twitter, #DoctorWho has been the biggest trend. Other trends have been Moffat, Chibnall and Capaldi (literally all by surname). There seems to be a very misleading suggestion that Series 10 has been delayed because of Moffat's decision to quit - in reality we know it'll have been figured far in advance and probably involves more than that. Though all talk of the lower viewing figures seems to have been forgotten.

There seems to be disappointment at the lack of Doctor Who this year on all fronts - there's certainly more praise for Moffat than criticism it seems. So all in all the consensus is that people are indeed going to miss the show.

Opinion on Capaldi also seems generally positive, although you can rely on certain sources for the negativity - Digital Spy's own Facebook posts, and the redtop newspapers all seem to have people lurking around complaining that the guy is too old. But they seem to be a minority viewpoint if the likes on the counter-argument are anything to go by

All in all, my early judgement of the reception to the news (keeping in mind I work with social media reception a little bit so hope I'm somewhat competent) is that most people are excited for change and in spite of expectations there's a lot more positivity for the show right now than anyone might've expected.
Whovian1109
23-01-2016
My thoughts:

- Completely unaffected by the airdate as Spring 2017 seemed fairly inevitable and it's good to see it going back to its old slot.
- Also totally unsurprised that Series 10 is Moffat's last as he clearly wanted out before Series 10 and had to stay on late to spare the Beeb's blushes
- Slightly disappointed with Chibnall. I have nothing against him but none of his Who eps have been sensational.
- On reflection, Chibnall is a solid choice, for me at least better than Whithouse or Gatiss and realistically I can't think of any realistic candidates that I would have liked more.
- Very surprised that they released this info so early but I'm glad they did so that now we know.
- Looking likely that Series 10 will be Peter's last series but I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed on to do another series because he loves the show and I doubt Chibnall would turn him down.
Lord Smexy
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“Any idea what's the main topic Abomination? The new lead writer or the "no season this year"?”

Meanwhile in 2008:

http://m.forums.theregister.co.uk/fo...ies_naffs_off/
CrowleySr
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“Yes absolutely. Classic PR strategy - hide the bad news by releasing it on the same day as a bigger story. Clearly they are hoping no one will notice yet another Moffat-Gap. This is the worse one since Moffat took over too. Not even some held-over season 9 episodes to plaster over the cracks this time.”

The worst gap was 2013 - the anniversary year. How could a lifelong fan assume last season's leftovers, the expected Christmas sepcial plus one 1hr 15min episode be good enough for the 50th anniversary? Did Moffat really think this was good enough?

Coronation St managed a full schedule, plus documentaries, plus a live episode on their 50th
Abomination
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lord Smexy:
“Perhaps his wife?

"I know what went on between you and Jenna Coleman, I watched the bleedin' show!"”


I'd wager it'd more than likely be Karen Gillan judging by some of the comments he made regarding her casting! But that's a whole big can of worms
Residents Fan
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by TARDIS Blue:
“Not sure what to make of Chibnall taking the reigns. I loved Broadchurch but his work on Doctor Who hasn't been anything special. I will give him a chance though.”

Quite a few people online (including myself) are bitterly disappointed. They were hoping for Toby Whithouse, Gatiss, or even someone from outside Doctor Who fandom like Hugo Blick or Adrian Hodges.

You know in soccer, there's the "Anyone But (Man) United?" DW fandom has
the "Anyone But Chibnall!"
Stockingfiller
23-01-2016
The first two series of ' Sherlock' were great. Some Doctor Who episodes written by Stephen Moffat have, been excellent.

However, something went awry. The rest of ' Sherlock' seemed too self aware and a number of Doctor Who episodes didn't work.

When something's clever, it can be a joy. When there's a too high self awareness of being clever I think it fails.

I think that the BBC wants high ratings, doesn't much care about anything else ( I don't mean that the writers, actors, production staff etc don't ) and that they'll want the family viewing Doctor Who back, with probably, a young Doctor. I'll miss Peter Capaldi - such a wonderful, actor and my favourite Doctor.

I think also that both success and the pressure of a lot of work might make someone rather more focused on the importance of the writing rather than how that writing is actually going to work for audiences and that it's a line easily crossed.
Abomination
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by CrowleySr:
“The worst gap was 2013 - the anniversary year. How could a lifelong fan assume last season's leftovers, the expected Christmas sepcial plus one 1hr 15min episode be good enough for the 50th anniversary? Did Moffat really think this was good enough?

Coronation St managed a full schedule, plus documentaries, plus a live episode on their 50th”

I was disappointed by 2013 as well, but all the same your comment is a bit misleading.

Coronation Street managed its full schedule, and had additional content including documentaries, and a live episode.

Doctor Who had an anniversary episode, plus An Adventure in Space and Time, plus two minisodes, plus various themed shows including one with Brian Cox if I recall.

Moffat is showrunner, not a BBC commissioner. The faults with quite how much show he was given to run that year are likely in big part down to the BBC, and also in Matt Smith's decision to quit that year...which meant rolling on with the next series was made all the more difficult.
Lord Smexy
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“
I'd wager it'd more than likely be Karen Gillan judging by some of the comments he made regarding her casting! But that's a whole big can of worms ”

Good grief, I would love to be Moffat.

Except for the plank walking when the crowd break into his home overnight, while Davies stands in the background going "13 million viewers!"
Abomination
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Residents Fan:
“Quite a few people online (including myself) are bitterly disappointed. They were hoping for Toby Whithouse, Gatiss, or even someone from outside Doctor Who fandom like Hugo Blick or Adrian Hodges.

You know in soccer, there's the "Anyone But (Man) United?" DW fandom has
the "Anyone But Chibnall!" ”

Mentions of Gatiss make me think in spite of my other claims tonight that he may in fact have been the second-worst option available from the "previously-contributed" roster. I'd not be particularly impressed with either, but I think I may have been even less enthusiastic at the idea of a Mark Gatiss series.
Sam_Gee1
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“Mentions of Gatiss make me think in spite of my other claims tonight that he may in fact have been the second-worst option available from the "previously-contributed" roster. I'd not be particularly impressed with either, but I think I may have been even less enthusiastic at the idea of a Mark Gatiss series.”

Gatiss would probably be too similar to Moffat with his Sherlock commitments, and even potentially in running the show as well.
16caerhos
23-01-2016
Some of you may think his standalone contributions to the show haven't been that great, but that doesn't mean anything when it comes to showrunning. I think Moffat wrote some of the best Doctor Who stories ever for RTD, but I've found myself mostly disappointed while he's been in charge of the whole thing.

Chibnall could end up having the opposite effect.
CoalHillJanitor
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Palmerwho:
“Edit - biggest disappointment I can see at the minute is the prospect of two Christmas specials in a row continuity wise!”

For a time traveller, seriously? The Doctor's already spent a thousand years at Christmas!
CrowleySr
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“I was disappointed by 2013 as well, but all the same your comment is a bit misleading.

Coronation Street managed its full schedule, and had additional content including documentaries, and a live episode.

Doctor Who had an anniversary episode, plus An Adventure in Space and Time, plus two minisodes, plus various themed shows including one with Brian Cox if I recall.

Moffat is showrunner, not a BBC commissioner. The faults with quite how much show he was given to run that year are likely in big part down to the BBC, and also in Matt Smith's decision to quit that year...which meant rolling on with the next series was made all the more difficult.”

No it didn't. An Adventure in Time and Space was independant of the Dr Who production team, as were the other themed shows. That's like claiming the indents were part of the series production schedule. None of them were the resposibility of Moffat and the DW team

The story is Moffat and BBC Wales agreed a break, then informed London it was happening. The Head of BBC1 at the time (Danny Cohen?) should have knocked their heads together and told them to get on with it. Any other year would have been acceptable (if not OK), but 2013? Moffat claimed to be a fan - he should have understood that scenario wasn't good enough
the_lostprophet
23-01-2016
Originally Posted by Bej:
“I guess by 2018 I will be nearing my 30's, so it might be time to say goodbye to the show,”

Ha! I watch it and I'm in my 30s. It's a show for any age really - 'family' show.
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