I've never seen her look so sheepish.

So true I dare not ask people if they watch anymore and been a fan since the first series and never missed. I have had enough now

She is still complicit.

No, this will be forgotten about by next week.

How would Emma know if it wasn't?
They'd just tell her if they fixed something or not would they?

Emma and Rylan are professional liars. They may argue they're just following a script or taking orders, but they are still liars. Never trust 'em.

if they send Steph's bf Sam in it would be an extra nail

Agree, i remember all of the below having an extreme reaction of "Final nail in the coffin" and "this is so low" and were forgotten about the next week... (however in retrospect people are still mad)

- The way Vanessa's eviction was handled in BB6. "Brutal" came up a lot of times.
- The All Female Start in BB8
- Charley getting immunity during BB8
- How unfair it was to put Rex's girlfriend in BB9 to try and ruin his chances
- The Quad Eviction
- Friends and Family nomination when people assumed Faye's family were told to nominate Aaron
- The treatment of Aaron on BOTS (I got to say, this still stands and i am still annoyed)
- How it was fixed that they had a Lauren V Luke A eviction because the "insiders" were getting evicted too early and every week.
- The Reverse Week, how it was a fix to keep Sam and Sophie in over Dan
- Ashleigh getting screwed over after winning immunity.
- Marc being chosen to go in the secret room

That's only around 10% of the "final nail in the coffin" stuff. I don't think BB will ever have a proper final nail unless someone kills someone in there

I question the IQ of anyone that participates in phone voting on any show.

You are the fools even voting on this show! I learnt my lesson a long while ago.

The producers of this show are corrupt and actually quite messed up in the head now. Gone are the days when the nastier HM's were punished for their behaviour, they are now rewarded for it.

I'm starting to think this is one of the nastiest show's on tv now. It's always had nasty sides to it, but all it is about now is putting a bunch of people in the house and making them go through one humiliating moment after the next, trying to turn people on each other by coming up with cruel, s**t stirring tasks, turning them into an emotional wreck and sending them out to a mob like audience when they are evicted. Making the audience look like idiots is actually one of the nicest things they do now.

At least in the past there was a lot more fun in it, now it is just messed up. Who the hell wants to see arguments non stop ? this is what the show is pushing for in every HL's show now.

And don't forget the biggest "final nail in the coffin" of all time - sending Nikki back in BB7. If that didn't kill this show, nothing will at this point.

How long ago was that?

10 years in the summer.

It seems like the coffin lid just won't stay down. I am surprised people are surprised by any new lows the producers sink too. Post C4 it was made clear they see BB evolving to more of an "entertainment" format and this is just another step in that direction.

Totally agree, I feel just the same, she seems to get rewarded for rule breaks not punished.

^^ This.

Loads of people on this very forum spotted the fix the second a task was mentioned. and their post are here, timestamped for all to see.

But for me, the biggest insult to our intelligence is the rolly-eyed looks exchanged and patronising tone of Rylan and Emma, Of course they are always going to deny a fix, but watching them pretend anyone who can see it for what it is, is a tin hat wearing lunatic who will see fixes everywhere? ... Just too much, they should have just ignored it.

and yet people still vote

Its nothing to do with voting.

Last Night stank, Rylan mentioned it wasn't a fix at the beginning, why mention anything, you could tell those handles done sod all, some of them fell off Jeremy's broke off but still opened.

I don't see what anybody sees in Gemna, she has the personailty of a Goldfish.

Big Brother in my eyes. Needs to be axed, you could have the same type show, but cal, it Celebrity Manshion or something.

No housemate should be allowed in the house, if they know any of the production team.

I'd be sad to see it axed, but it certainly needs a reboot thats for sure.

Maybe my previous the show being axed a bit extreme, would Big Brother be better without Endemol, they have produced it since Series 1.

They own the format

I used to vote in the early series but I stopped after the whole "vote a housemate back in" having spent money to vote many of them out and for BB to send them back into the house frustrated me. Since then I've never voted and to be fair I've not watched it as much. CBB I watch the launch then decide from there if I'm watching, I've never voted in that though I don't think

They have owned the Format since Day one, but can't keep it constant.

Should Endemol ask the viewers what they would like

What would be the point they would ignore it I suspect the direction the show moves is also agreed with C5 and to some extent dictated by them.