How so? Prior to his nomination his win odds were in the high teens or as much 20/1. After nomination they halved and have continued to fall and currently fluctuate at around 3/1 or 4/1.

Yeah Gods! Why do I have to explain the subjectivity of "odds".

Think about it.

John denies being involved in leaving Steffs knickers on the table so who has done it and why are we not been told?

I'd hazard a guess

It was probably Danniella ... she's already said she's sick of picking Stephanie's dirty knickers off the floor

Scotty T would do it as a joke, Gemma would do it as she is a nasty cow and Danniella would do it as she hates Steph, on the other hand Tiffany might have done it to cause tension as she appears to be singling him out and definitely seems to be playing the game.

Me neither . Just watch when he gets out , he'll totally try to justify his betrayal yet again . He's backed off in there somewhat only because he has been challenged and is now confused that not everyone has been basking in his magnificence . Does not compute .John thinks john is never wrong and once out in the bosom of his fans he'll trash darren again and verbally bash all round him with his luvvie mates on bots etc .

PS. Much as I dislike him I doubt any knicker antics would be his thing .

Did you mean to exclaim "Ye Gods" ?

true..

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I don't think Gemma needs any prompting she is a nasty stirrer naturally.

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Very mush so.

Why would Tiffany do it? It makes no sense even if she was "playing the game."

Maybe it was done casually and without any malice at all, all her clothes thrown on the table for her to sort and wash as others are just plain fed up of her mess. I do not see the point of anyone doing it and then lying about it because BB has the footage and will likely reveal it.

John was lying!!!! He caused the whole thing!!!

He didn't cause it, they were all as bad as each other.

Yep, that wasn't a nice thing to do but she shouldn't leave dirty underwear lying around a shared house, particularly if she is having problems 'down there'.

How awful, he should be ashamed pure nasty, that was!

He did! He did! I saw him! I saw him!

He was the instigator of "pigeon shit!" He wanted the culprit named and shamed!!

I saw him wiv me own peepers I did!

I cannot stand john , yet I defended him and all along he bloody knew and participated . So he blatantly lied to tiffant regarding knowledge of it .
What a sleekit liar he is .

"We need to name and shame"

Same old John

Having watched it now, both John and Chris could have dealt with that better... shouting pigeon shit all over the bedroom isn't gonna make anyone sit up and go.. it was me!

I felt embarrassed watching it.

However, Steph has been told constant to pick her shit up..

What a fibber!!! I believed all his fibs last night!!

Only one person said "let's name and shame them" and that was John.

I don't like him but I'm surprised he did that and then lied about it so blatantly.


Oh please. Just be honest, everyone saw and heard,


And heard him. Why are people lying.

I feel the same.

Nasty that isn't it.

The worst instigator was John, not Chris.

Steph should be told to have some self respect of to and behave respectfully to others by keeping her belongings tidy,
Screaming " pick your shit up" is revolting.

John started it. Gemma, Daniella and Meghan ran with it.