not at all

it's fairly balanced on both viewpoints

but has to be raised - none of that would have happened, if Stephanie had cleared her sh*t up !

by same token, too much was made of that by the grown ups
Darren has a wife and daughters, so he should know better, John's just a drama queen

then if this is the case, why would you leave your knickers hanging around? I wouldnt want others to know i had an issue down there.

I do agree that someone moving them was unacceptable but she needs to get some common sense knocked into her. She is clueless about life.

Think thrush rather than pigeon.

now we do know that she does sweet f.a. for herself outside the house
she has enough time in there to do sh*t like that - the others do , why is she any different !

Actual poo in your pants can be helped. Still wouldn't be a particularly adult reaction (but not shaming for something that can't be helped)

leaving your knicks on the floor can be helped, I get that

the knickers will have their own twitter page after tonight
just wait for it

Humiliation for Steph, karma ?

Absolutely. She shouldn't have left them lying around but they're grown adults and could have and should have dealt with that in a more tactful and discreet way.
I'm no fan of Jeremy but he was the only one who came out of that with dignity and the right attitude.

What have we come to though when vaginal discharge takes up 20 minutes of an hour long tv show thats already spent time discussing another HMs vaginal surgery?

Megan said a few days ago that Steph leaves her worn smalls lying about.

Yes she does . But adult women and adult men parading her knickers around and passing remarks about the discharge is hardly the way to teach her
Yes Steph should have picked them up and yes Steph was wrong . But the humiliation was outbof line and it made for vey uncomfortable viewing

She hadn't put them in a laundry basket though, she'd it's left them lying around. And for how long?

John Darren and Chris should have told her to get her dirty laundry and other put it away or do it, they were very wrong to display it
but she was wrong to leave her dirty underwear lying around, particularly as she admits she had been very horny and moist (her words).
If you're defending that, crack on, but you'll be pushing water uphill.

Steph's untidiness has been an issue for sometime .

I know, people wash and clean their teeth in that bathroom and she had left those knickers, tainted with bodily fluids, there for days!!!

Imagine if a guy left shit and cum stained pants near the women's make up. FFS.

I didn't excuse that.

Not a problem I have ever had to face fortunately, apart from the routine and normal.

I would have raged about them being placed there. We're meant to eat off that you dirty, mugs! Why am I surprised that ultimately no one in this fishbowl gives a toss about sanitation?

Anyway, Stephanie should not be given a pass about leaving her dirty knickers about especially when nearly everyone except her lapdog Jeremy has been on her about leaving things around and picking up after herself. It's a recurring issue with her. The embarrassment could have been avoided - should have if she wasn't such a slovenly mess.

The guys were dead wrong to put all on display, though. But still, it would be Stephanie's knickers. She's nasty.

the girls would have been just the same in their reaction
as the guys were over the women's underwear ?

I think the guys should have been more sensitive to one of the girls leaving a pair of their draws lying around though. They didn't need to describe them so graphically it was mean, it would have led to Gemma , Tiffany or Danniella walking out

Stephanie's a very hard girl, she can take it, but doesn't make it right
It was the conversation she had with Jeremy afterwards about the stains that was more gross to me.

if i was in the house and i discovered a dirty pair of knickers i would be disgusted .Would i say something? Yes i probably would. She is a grown woman and i know that it happens to everyone but i wouldnt be leaving them around for all to see. IMO its the same as crapping your pants and leaving them for someone else to collect and wash. Eugh not nice. She is not at home. Her mum may just pick them up and say nothing but she is not at home. The people she is living with are more or less strangers.

Spot on !!!

Nothing's private or sacred anymore

No - It is a silly response but i would say for most - a normal reaction,

It wasnt Jeremy who placed them on the table then ran round telling the whole house to go and look at them.

Why is anyone teaching her, she is not a child. Why is accountability and responsibility so rare these days?

No . I dont know any woman who would do that to humiliate another woman .

It did make uncomfortable viewing and it was out of line. But had she had more self respect and dignity it wouldn't have happened. I would call it contributory negligence.

I didnt bring up about the teaching , I was answering a post