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Johns a bit of a mystery to me. I've liked him and disliked him in equal measure.
I thought the " I didn't cry at my fathers funeral " quite bizarre actually. And made me highly sceptical . But on occasion he seems quite caring and concerned . Confused ![]() |
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Just because the GBP doesn't like John doesn't mean they are being influenced by Gemma or Tiffany. What a ridiculous assumption, especially considering Gemma is now pretty disliked as well. I haven't liked him since his whole "I respect your opinion, Winston" BS. He should have stood up for what he believed in than try to appease Winston. His tears over Gemma should have won him an Academy Award nomination too.
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Just because the GBP doesn't like John doesn't mean they are being influenced by Gemma or Tiffany. What a ridiculous assumption.
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Is this directed at me ? if it is then you must have got confused somehow because i never once said that
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No, not you. Just in general. I saw another post in this thread that said that but I didn't quote it because I was making a point to everyone.
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[quote=Rhumbatugger;81221595]He didn't SAY, his 'father's death', he said 'at his father's funeral'. He meant 'in public'.
Yes, John did say he didn't cry at his father's funeral, and he also said he hasn't cried regarding his mother's illness, although in an interview he said he cried in the shower. You claim he meant in public. When he cried on ITV's This Morning, surely that's in public? |
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Just because the GBP doesn't like John doesn't mean they are being influenced by Gemma or Tiffany. What a ridiculous assumption, especially considering Gemma is now pretty disliked as well. I haven't liked him since his whole "I respect your opinion, Winston" BS. He should have stood up for what he believed in than try to appease Winston. His tears over Gemma should have won him an Academy Award nomination too.
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Not seen darren mention it since he explained his nom to john in the bedroom on noms night .
Other than that the only ones going on about it are john supporters on bots etc trying to justify his shameful trashing of a pal . So yeah , they need to get over it really . |
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Not seen darren mention it since he explained his nom to john in the bedroom on noms night .
Other than that the only ones going on about it are john supporters on bots etc trying to justify his shameful trashing of a pal . So yeah , they need to get over it really . |
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He also went on about it when Gemma bought it up a week ago when she was trying to get everyone to turn on John.
And gemma brought it up ? Point proven m'lud. He's clearly not "going on about it" despite numerous threads claiming he is . |
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He didn't SAY, his 'father's death', he said 'at his father's funeral'. He meant 'in public'.
. But he didn't mean in public , there is ZERO reason to think he said that, you've made it up to carry on defending a very difficult position. Quote:
Don't twist it to suit your purposes.
ha ha ha ! See above.
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I have never liked John, well his character I suppose in Eastenders but I thought and when I realised he would be on this as well I wasn't going to bother with it.
However I really liked Tiff so she's the main reason I carried on watching but I only started watching after the David fiasco. Unfortunate for John I caught him at his worst I guess and then I wasn't too bothered about the Darren thing but watching him since I haven't warmed to him at all. I just don't find him believable; it's as though most of what he does or says for or to people has an ulterior motive... however, I can't always work out what that motive is but can only surmise that it's to hold on to what he is being told and then use it later. His character I find is rather one dimensional... his real one, not his Eastenders one lol.
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He didn't SAY, his 'father's death', he said 'at his father's funeral'. He meant 'in public'.
Yes, John did say he didn't cry at his father's funeral, and he also said he hasn't cried regarding his mother's illness, although in an interview he said he cried in the shower. You claim he meant in public. When he cried on ITV's This Morning, surely that's in public? Soooo hammy. ![]() And in public too
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I never usually want any particular hm to win, but the absolute c*ap and total rubbish being written about John, the supposed machiavellian "master puppeteer, makes me want him to win.
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Ok gemma affected him more than his fathers funeral.
But he didn't mean in public , there is ZERO reason to think he said that, you've made it up to carry on defending a very difficult position. ha ha ha ! See above.Saying 'death', would mean he didn't cry for his father. Saying 'funeral', means 'in public' although he was extremely upset. I don't have to make anything up, I am perfectly capable of understanding inference, especially in such an obvious example. ![]() Never mind though. |
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I never usually want any particular hm to win, but the absolute c*ap and total rubbish being written about John, the supposed machiavellian "master puppeteer, makes me want him to win.
![]() Why do people keep reading into opinions , things that aren't there. It's like they've only come on here for fight. |
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Of COURSE there's a reason to think he meant that when he said 'funeral' confused:
Saying 'death', would mean he didn't cry for his father. Saying 'funeral', means 'in public' although he was extremely upset. I don't have to make anything up, I am perfectly capable of understanding inference, especially in such an obvious example. ![]() Never mind though. For your own reasons is my guess , and I suggest you keep those reasons , nobody needs (or wants) to know |
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Oh and don't forget that pathetic crying in the DR about gay adoption.
Soooo hammy. ![]() And in public too ![]() Just the way he showed that? How would you like him to have shown it then? |
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You're taking a lot of inference from something he said and making out he meant a something entirely different.
For your own reasons is my guess , and I suggest you keep those reasons , nobody needs (or wants) to know |
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Again, presumably you don't find someone being upset by Winston's attitude wrong then?
Just the way he showed that? How would you like him to have shown it then? You're the one insisting John didn't cry at his dad's funeral to avoid public tears. As if his old mans funeral was on the news at ten when it would have just been his family and family friends. Perfectly safe environment for a little weep.Yet he blubbed on TV. Several times Let's just leave it, I feel like this is a discussion in which I have an unfair advantage. Enjoy the programme |
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I think disagreeing with Winston is appropriate BUT that's not the topic.
You're the one insisting John didn't cry at his dad's funeral to avoid public tears. As if his old mans funeral was on the news at ten when it would have just been his family and family friends. Perfectly safe environment for a little weep.Yet he blubbed on TV. Several times Let's just leave it, I feel like this is a discussion in which I have an unfair advantage. Enjoy the programme But then you are determined to, so yes, let's just leave it. |
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[quote=Rhumbatugger;81222689]Of COURSE there's a reason to think he meant that when he said 'funeral' confused:
Saying 'death', would mean he didn't cry for his father. Saying 'funeral', means 'in public' although he was extremely upset. Regarding 'in public.'. Wouldn't you agree that ITV's This Morning is public, very public in fact? I'm referring to the interview he gave about his mother's illness. |
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I am judging for myself. I haven't liked John since the night in the diary room where he did that awful insincere performance about winstons views on gay adoption
He's cold, smug, arrogant, pompous selfish and self indulgent. He's a terrible actor and dreadful luvvie. Gemma is a horrible, horrible creature, I can't bear Tiffany, I loathe Steph, can't abide Megan I think Darren should stop being such a pathetic morose victim and that Christopher is as wet and thick as soup BUT none of that takes away that johns a very nasty guy , in my opinion of course. And it seems that some FMs need to "get over" the fact that others don't agree with their opinion and perhaps see things without bias. ![]() Consider that if you can bear to acknowledge it may be valid. |
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Again, presumably you don't find someone being upset by Winston's attitude wrong then?
Just the way he showed that? How would you like him to have shown it then? |
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Yesterday John's odds to win were getting better but today they are drifting again. Clearly some people are listening to the 2 witches instead of judging for themselves. I despair, I really do. Tiff now 2nd favourite and Gemma's odds shortening too.
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And gemma brought it up ? Point proven m'lud. 
