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Old 24-01-2016, 10:25
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It's when they found out that the bullying really started.
The 'naming and shaming' was bad enough in itself, but once the person was named it was a free for all as far as the girls were concerned.
Exactly this, it was horrible viewing.
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Old 24-01-2016, 10:44
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And why shouldnt she...,.
Because it's nasty and confrontational and when you attack people they respond. And they don't have to put up with it because she's "just 22" or calls them bullies, or runs to her boyfriend to back her up. When you dish it out you should be prepared to take it too.

Whining and playing the victim can be just another form of manipulation.
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Old 24-01-2016, 10:59
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Because it's nasty and confrontational and when you attack people they respond. And they don't have to put up with it because she's "just 22" or calls them bullies, or runs to her boyfriend to back her up. When you dish it out you should be prepared to take it too.

Whining and playing the victim can be just another form of manipulation.
She's manipulating Jeremy very well indeed!!
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Old 24-01-2016, 12:24
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Steph is totally acting. Danniella called it right, Steph has cheated on her BF and is getting into bed with another man every night. Steph is now claiming to be bullied to distract from what she has been up to.
No, knickergate was a separate issue. Danniella talked about Steph cheating on her BF to distract from the fact that they did bully & humiliate her. Danniella cried saying she wasn't a bully because she worried she would look bad & used Steph's cheating as an excuse. They were laughing, revelling & sniggering about Steph's knickers.

Plus Steph didn't leave those knickers lying on the table. The guys were sorting through the washing from the bin & put them there. John instigated it & the women Gemma/Danniella/Megan carried the whole thing forward!!
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Old 24-01-2016, 12:27
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No the right thing to do in that situation was to confront her since they knew all of the other clothes belonged to her. Talking about it, showing disgust and laughing about how awful it is isn't exactly pleasant considering someone knows that the knickers are theirs. It's malicious - end of.
i agree.

As soon as the conversation started I knew it was going to be Steph as they have already established that she is messy. I bet they knew it too, so going on and on about how disgusting they were due to discharge which is something the person has no control over and could be caused by an infection) was malicious in my opinion, a deliberate attempt to humiliate her.

I don't like Steph, she should clear up after herself and it would drive me up the wall if I had to live with it but I still think they were needlessly nasty. It's just not something I'd do to somebody, even if i disliked them.

Of course several people sharing an opinion doesn't automatically translate to bullying. I don't think any of them were bullying Stephanie by not approving (and voicing it) of her carrying on with Jeremy when she has a boyfriend. Or for asking her to be tidier and saying the mess pisses them off. But the laughing, shrieks of how disgusting etc crossed a line in my opinion.
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Old 24-01-2016, 12:40
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Now im not one to throw the bullying accusations around but in this case I think it is justified. That there was just like taking someone's underwear in a changing room and throwing it around. Showing it to everyone while cackling loudly. It happens in every school. It just shows how far this show has fallen. These are supposed to be celebrities. People who the rest of us should envy and aspire to. 40 something's screaming over a young girls pants is what someone with no life experience does. Certainly nobody over the age of 15. Vile lot. Much as I done like Jeremy he was the most mature there.
This.

I don't like Steph, but last night was awful to watch.
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Old 24-01-2016, 12:45
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I guess the way i look at it is Gemmia is a Bully ... But Steph is strong enough that she isn't going to be bullied by her.

But Gemmia's intimidation of Christopher and telling him me was wrong to pick her name and he needed to get some "gumption". I can see being upset that he picked her .. i can see yelling ... but approaching it like 'I'm telling you what you better not do next time' was a bully tactic in my opinion ... and it quite clear She and everyone knows christoper is weak ... i can't say i've seen anyone else bossing him around.
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Old 24-01-2016, 12:48
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Old 24-01-2016, 12:56
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Now im not one to throw the bullying accusations around but in this case I think it is justified. That there was just like taking someone's underwear in a changing room and throwing it around. Showing it to everyone while cackling loudly. It happens in every school. It just shows how far this show has fallen. These are supposed to be celebrities. People who the rest of us should envy and aspire to. 40 something's screaming over a young girls pants is what someone with no life experience does. Certainly nobody over the age of 15. Vile lot. Much as I done like Jeremy he was the most mature there.
I agree Pie-eyed, I don't like Steph that much I think she comes across as immature on so many levels, but seriously? Those men running off like infants when they saw a bit of very normal discharge on a young girl's pants, telling the house (and the public) all about it, as though it is poison. Stupid reaction from grown adults.

Steph likely made a joke about it at first because she was embarrassed and ished to deflect this from everyone by making the episode light and fun, but then the more it went on, it was clear she was upset about it. As was I on her behalf - that's awful to broadcast such private stuff and in the way they did it.

Bullying is when more than one person berates one other in front of others. This episode is bullying IMO.
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Old 24-01-2016, 13:36
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Here we go again 😴😴😴😴😴😴

steph gives as good as she gets and says just as much hurtful things to others!!!
But it's not nice to see somebody be bullied and Gemma is definitely the ringleader in this instance and it's very uncomfortable viewing see her trying to turn all the house against Steph! Quite disgusting in fact!
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Old 24-01-2016, 13:36
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I guess the way i look at it is Gemmia is a Bully ... But Steph is strong enough that she isn't going to be bullied by her.

But Gemmia's intimidation of Christopher and telling him me was wrong to pick her name and he needed to get some "gumption". I can see being upset that he picked her .. i can see yelling ... but approaching it like 'I'm telling you what you better not do next time' was a bully tactic in my opinion ... and it quite clear She and everyone knows christoper is weak ... i can't say i've seen anyone else bossing him around.
Exactly this!
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Old 24-01-2016, 14:21
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Steph is being unhygienic and throwing out the Bully word whenever anyone pulls her up on it.

Gemma however is the very definition of a bully.
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Old 24-01-2016, 14:24
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Steph is totally acting. Danniella called it right, Steph has cheated on her BF and is getting into bed with another man every night. Steph is now claiming to be bullied to distract from what she has been up to.
Or you could argue that Danielle and the others keep bringing up Steph with Jeremy as a justification for what they did to her.

I think stephanie is very unhygienic and slovenly but what occurred by the others was nasty.
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Old 24-01-2016, 14:27
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Well what are the Steph 'crimes', that you feel happy to equate to the situation in North Korea?


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Old 24-01-2016, 14:29
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She's manipulating Jeremy very well indeed!!
Yeah because he's really so innocent in all this
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Old 24-01-2016, 15:52
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Gemma is a bully.

I don't think Danniella is. The problem there is that she has had an issue with Stephanie herself so is predisposed to believing that Stephanie is at fault re: Gemma. She is wrong but I can understand it and I think it stems from insecurity. Gemma is the ringleader stirring it all up. Stephanie didn't single Danniella out as a bully. She said to a group of them that mocking the discharge in her underwear (which did happen and was uncomfortable viewing) is like bullying.

Unless they know her boyfriend personally, I don't think what Stephanie is doing with Jeremy is any reason for people to get on her case. Advice is one thing but some of it has been more than that. Their reaction to her leaving clothes laying around are OTT and I don't think Stephanie is playing the victim to deflect. A proper meeting about Stephanie picking her stuff up would be more beneficial than constant sniping behind her back.
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Old 24-01-2016, 15:57
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Gemma is a bully.

I don't think Danniella is. The problem there is that she has had an issue with Stephanie herself so is predisposed to believing that Stephanie is at fault re: Gemma. She is wrong but I can understand it and I think it stems from insecurity. Gemma is the ringleader stirring it all up. Stephanie didn't single Danniella out as a bully. She said to a group of them that mocking the discharge in her underwear (which did happen and was uncomfortable viewing) is like bullying.

Unless they know her boyfriend personally, I don't think what Stephanie is doing with Jeremy is any reason for people to get on her case. Advice is one thing but some of it has been more than that. Their reaction to her leaving clothes laying around are OTT and I don't think Stephanie is playing the victim to deflect. A proper meeting about Stephanie picking her stuff up would be more beneficial than constant sniping behind her back.
I agree with all except that Stephanie clearly has played the victim when it suits her.
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Old 24-01-2016, 16:09
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I agree with all except that Stephanie clearly has played the victim when it suits her.
Maybe she has on occasion and I've missed it but last night I don't think she was. I felt uncomfortable as a viewer and they weren't my knickers so I can only imagine how Stephanie felt.
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Old 24-01-2016, 16:15
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Gemma is a bully.

I don't think Danniella is. The problem there is that she has had an issue with Stephanie herself so is predisposed to believing that Stephanie is at fault re: Gemma. She is wrong but I can understand it and I think it stems from insecurity. Gemma is the ringleader stirring it all up. Stephanie didn't single Danniella out as a bully. She said to a group of them that mocking the discharge in her underwear (which did happen and was uncomfortable viewing) is like bullying.

Unless they know her boyfriend personally, I don't think what Stephanie is doing with Jeremy is any reason for people to get on her case. Advice is one thing but some of it has been more than that. Their reaction to her leaving clothes laying around are OTT and I don't think Stephanie is playing the victim to deflect. A proper meeting about Stephanie picking her stuff up would be more beneficial than constant sniping behind her back.
That's how I read it too.

Gemma is a natural bully, virtually everything she does is designed to 'divide and conquer' or stir for her own amusement. She's done it against John, against Angie (declaring she shouldn't be allowed to come back after a night away from the main House), Tiffany, Christopher and now Stephanie. She is the ringleader.

I don't think Daniella is by nature a bully, but as you say, because she's had her own issues with Steph and likes Gemma, she is automatically inclined to take Gemma's side in this, despite having previously noticed and remarked on Gemma 'loading guns' and intimidating Christopher.

Not sure where Megan stood on it all. I think she was just fed up of Steph being messy and 'not respecting her shit' so was happy to go along with thee mocking.

Didn't John suggest calling a House meeting to calmly explain to Steph they weren't happy with her slovenly ways and what she needed to do to be a more considerate housemate over a week ago? Isn't that what prompted Megan's meltdown when she ranted at him?
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Old 24-01-2016, 16:19
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Maybe she has on occasion and I've missed it but last night I don't think she was. I felt uncomfortable as a viewer and they weren't my knickers so I can only imagine how Stephanie felt.
Again, i agree.

I don't think that Steph is above 'playing the victim' or labeling somebody a bully to gain sympathy or deflect attention from her having caused a problem but that is not what I saw last night. Last night had several people needlessly and maliciously setting out to mock and humiliate somebody, which is bullying.
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Old 24-01-2016, 16:21
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Gemma is the instigator she fires the bullets and stands back
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Old 24-01-2016, 16:29
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You can find a lot of faults in Steph but I quite admire her on one level as she seems to be the only person to see what Gemma is and to work out what she's doing and she's the only one who answers her back. God know why the genuinely successful celebrities like the ones who had parts on EastEnders, defer to her. Gemma is a talentless nobody, it's not as if she can snap her fingers and end their professional careers.
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Old 24-01-2016, 19:46
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I suggest we all look up the word 'bully' in a dictionary before we use it (ROLLEYES)
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Old 24-01-2016, 20:48
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Because it's nasty and confrontational and when you attack people they respond. And they don't have to put up with it because she's "just 22" or calls them bullies, or runs to her boyfriend to back her up. When you dish it out you should be prepared to take it too.

Whining and playing the victim can be just another form of manipulation.
Spot on
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