Didn't she say she was going to wash them with a few other bits? I don't think for one minute they were in the washing basket at all. Given she'd already been told about leaving her dirty knickers all over the place, I'll wager they weren't in any basket at all.

Which those on laundry duty threw on the table to sort out .
The crusty knickers should not have gone in the laundry . The dirty girl should have swilled them out in the bathroom , but oh no , afraid to mess up her nails .

As usual John is free from any blame and took no part in it. Just like when he sprung up from his bed and said to Jeremy 'she's mugging you off' which really put Jeremy at ease.

She did and wrongly so.

It wasn't quite like that. Stephanie said Darren, Christopher and John twice, but Tiffany was only having one name from Stephanie and that was John.

That was Gemma style s**t stirring from Tiffany there, it's funny how she is allowed to get away with it though.

Yes. Christopher said to cover them up, and John said "no we need to name & shame" then went to the bedroom to tell everyone.

Then when Tiffany confronted him he denied it... and on live feed last night was dramatically saying 'I can't believe you would think I would do that Tiffany'.

John is so shady but can do no wrong on here it seems lol.

(Ps. I think he's a good housemate & am glad he's still there )

What the hell is wrong with you? Steph said they were in the washing basket, where do you put your dirty underwear?

If someone took your underwear out of the basket and took them to your place of employment and started waving them around pointing out your private secretions what would you think?



Maggie

I thought he came into the picture a bit later but you're right, John is the person who started shouting his mouth off about them .

Yup. Just watched it back on Ch5 +1. John to blame untilmately. He denied it to Tiffany as all the dirty laundry was already out on the table by Christopher and Darren so may not have realised that he actually instigated it all after this.

She claimed they were with other bits she was going to wash later

Sorry but it was all the guys(except Jeremy) that started it. John wanted to name and shame the person and gleeful was gossiping about it with the other girls and calling it pigeon shit.

and that's exactly my point - John is the escape goat... again.



Lets not blame Darren and Chris who put it on the table.

Least of all.... lets not blame Gemma and/or Danielle, who behaved FAR worse than John did tonight.

Let's just blame master manipulator John. It's all his fault.

I understand the whole 'name and shame' thing wasn't the best thing, or the most tactful, but I don't think there was any malicious intent.

Tiff annoyed me tonight. Regardless of what she said about John was true or not (and I'll be the first to admit he can be a bit of a control freak and arrogant at times).... what about Gemma's behaviour...? Why doesn't Tiff pull her up over her shit...?

but no, it's all John's fault.

You don't have to think about it, the footage precisely showed Chris taking them out of the basket.

THIS ^^^^^ Steph didn't mention John until Tiff eliminated everyone else leaving her with only one name. Then Tiff told John that Steph had said she knew he'd done it. Talk about twisting a story.

Yeah, what a tramp, putting her worn clothes in the wash basket. "Name and shame!"

BIB ..No Erin Steph told Tiff she thought it was all 3 it was only after Tiff kept saying out of the 3 give me one name over and over again that she finally said Johnny

As for leaving her pants lying around ,She left them in the Bathroom with some other dirty washing ....Yes she should have and would have been better to wash them straight away ,but she said she was going to wash them later with the other stuff

Christopher was the one that decided to bring the washing out of the Bathroom and go through it ,and it was Chris,Darren and John that then decided to make a big Hooha over what they found to Humilate someone

Only because she knew that Tiffany wanted her to say John, she virtually spelled it out for her to grasp.

Well, for starters I'd be hacked off that they'd obviously broken into my house I would think.

It isn't quite the same situation is it. It's a communal house she's living in. She should have a bit of decorum. If she's got dirty gussets she should rinse them out discreetly and not shove them in any basket (if that's where they were) for anyone to come across.

Noone is saying it was all Johns fault But it was Johns fault the rest of the house got involved due to him acting like a spiteful school girl ,by shouting 'Name and Shame then gleefully going into the bedroom to let all the others know

Agree with this, just rinse your undies before you stick em in the wash, especially as it's gross and our undies cost more than most men's so why risk permanant stainage

I think the blokes were just being blokey, they do that sort of thing to one another all the time and think nothing of it. The girls however were being foul about it, I sat there with my jaw dropped listening to the vile things they were saying !

I'm sorry but there was only two people doing that tonight and that was Gemma and Danielle. Megan is also accountable.... yet I don't see anyone - least of all Tiffany - having a go at them.

I think this is what riles me up the most.

Like I said, John shouldn't have said name and shame but I genuinely do not think it was done with malice. Johnny has shown he very big on hygene and cleanisness so maybe he didn't execute what he thought very well.... but I don't think he deserved that interrogation by Tiffany. She saw what went down tonight but of course, it's Johnny that needs the dressing down.

Chris and Darren laid them out on the table.
Chris said they'd better put them in the basket or something and went to reach for them.
John stopped him and said that they should leave them to 'name and shame'.

What Chris tried to do there was respectful.

This.
Then John starts gleefully shouting about pigeon shit etc. and goes into the bedroom to make sure they all know. What a gentleman. What age is he, 44 or 45? Nice.

How old are you?

I think Steph has a right to expect that adults are aware of what goes on 'down under' with women and not start waving underwear around going 'Yuk, pigeon shit, pigeon shit'.

How juvenile is that? Have you ever shared a house with someone? Do you think everyone goes around washing their underwear the minute they take them off?

The other women then to start to laugh, criticise and isolate Steph over it is pathetic.



Maggie