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John was the one who insisted they stay on the table and name and shame the person.
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John's a grown man in his 40s (I think). He's the oldest person in the house.
If they didn't want to wash the knickers (and washing rota or no washing rota I wouldn't want to wash someone else's underwear by hand either!) they should have just put them back in the wash bin (or whatever it was) and got on with washing the other clothes, and maybe mention to the females that knickers were still in the bin for washing. Not start shouting 'Name and shame, name and shame! Pigeon shit!' and go into the bedroom and humiliate whoever those knickers belonged to. |
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How old are you?
I think Steph has a right to expect that adults are aware of what goes on 'down under' with women and not start waving underwear around going 'Yuk, pigeon shit, pigeon shit'. How juvenile is that? Have you ever shared a house with someone? Do you think everyone goes around washing their underwear the minute they take them off? The other women then to start to laugh, criticise and isolate Steph over it is pathetic. Maggie No, I've never shared a communal house. But if I were to share a communal house with anyone I would never leave underwear in that kind of state for someone else to come across. Besides which, I wouldn't want anyone else's gussets in that condition anywhere near my clothes dirty or otherwise. Call me old fashioned and pernickety but I'd go loopy if anyone that suggested they could/ have vaginal thrush or otherwise (as Steph did kind of intimate) had put their gusset anywhere near my garments.
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As usual John is free from any blame and took no part in it. Just like when he sprung up from his bed and said to Jeremy 'she's mugging you off' which really put Jeremy at ease.
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I'm sorry but there was only two people doing that tonight and that was Gemma and Danielle. Megan is also accountable.... yet I don't see anyone - least of all Tiffany - having a go at them.
I think this is what riles me up the most. Like I said, John shouldn't have said name and shame but I genuinely do not think it was done with malice. Johnny has shown he very big on hygene and cleanisness so maybe he didn't execute what he thought very well.... but I don't think he deserved that interrogation by Tiffany. She saw what went down tonight but of course, it's Johnny that needs the dressing down. ![]() As for the girls and their behaviour ,I wasn't surprised by it as they've already shown numerous times how Vile they are ![]() I like John and I was massively disappointed in him for his part it tonight and then blatently lying about it pissed me off even more ...I expected better of him
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If John has not lived communally with any women, why would he have seen soiled female underwear ?
I have been with my wife over 30 years and still get revolted when she leaves soiled underwear laying on the bedroom floor. A gay man who has never come across this behaviour before might easily over-react |
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It wasn't quite like that. Stephanie said Darren, Christopher and John twice, but Tiffany was only having one name from Stephanie and that was John.
That was Gemma style s**t stirring from Tiffany there, it's funny how she is allowed to get away with it though. |
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The three of them could have been a bit more mature about it although there was no malice from any of them - Steph really needs to sort out her own dirty underwear out!
(It'll be used as another noose for John's neck though) |
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Agree with this, just rinse your undies before you stick em in the wash, especially as it's gross and our undies cost more than most men's so why risk permanant stainage
I've never rinsed my undies before putting them in the wash. ![]() And I only cheap stuff from BHS,or Marks and Spencer. And there's been no such effect as permanent stainage. |
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The person who was responsible for knickergate is Stephanie. She left her washing, including visibly soiled knickers, in the bath. Totally gross! Anyone wanting a bath would have had to lift them out and put them onto the floor.. Then presumably clean the bath before using it! Everyone else would have to step over them or kick them out of the way when they were using the bathroom. I think one of the guys was probably cleaning the bathroom, picked up the clothes which were lying on the floor and brought them through for the owner to claim them. They then noticed the panties were soiled and were grossed out, understandably, and started to have a carry-on about it.
I don't blame everyone for making a fuss about it. At least they did it in a light-hearted way. People have been moaning the whole time about her leaving her clothes all over the floor. If you're sharing a house you don't leave your dirty knickers where other people can see them. I share a house with my partner, and I wouldn't dream of leaving soiled knickers for him to see. Ugh! |
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Didn't she say she was going to wash them with a few other bits? I don't think for one minute they were in the washing basket at all. Given she'd already been told about leaving her dirty knickers all over the place, I'll wager they weren't in any basket at all.
![]() Against most of this forums opinions I think I may well have reacted like the men did. Darren uttered ugh or something and Christopher ran away. I think he actually made the same comment. I think too I would have been tempted to name and shame. Does that make me a bad person or a villain - you decide. I do know if it had been my own child I would have gone ballistic about her leaving discharge stained knickers on the floor in the first place. In a plastic bag (if no washing machine) and certainly not on my floors. When I was young if I left my clothes (not knickers) lying around the place my mother used to sling them out of the window into the rain sometimes to teach me a lesson so guess i was brought up with standards which have stayed with me. My own mother "shamed" me in a different sort of way. Was she a bully? Again, you decide
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Call me old fashioned and pernickety but I'd go loopy if anyone that suggested they could/ have vaginal thrush or otherwise (as Steph did kind of intimate) had put their gusset anywhere near my garments. ![]() It seems there are some very odd people around here or my standards are very odd. Maggie |
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Oh really? "No malice"? and if someone exhibited your dirty underwear in public, would you feel the same?
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The person who was responsible for knickergate is Stephanie.
People have been moaning the whole time about her leaving her clothes all over the floor. If you're sharing a house you don't leave your dirty knickers where other people have to step over them or move them. I don't blame everyone for making a fuss about it. At least they did it in a light-hearted way. |
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It's so weird how some people are so quick to absolve him of all blame even when it's evident he's actually done something wrong too. Such a shame
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How old are you?
I think Steph has a right to expect that adults are aware of what goes on 'down under' with women and not start waving underwear around going 'Yuk, pigeon shit, pigeon shit'. How juvenile is that? Have you ever shared a house with someone? Do you think everyone goes around washing their underwear the minute they take them off? The other women then to start to laugh, criticise and isolate Steph over it is pathetic. Maggie |
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Why does anybody have to be responsible? People are what they are. Each of the HMs reacted in their own ways, which are all fairly understandable. There's no need to assign blame to one person for the whole 'knickergate'. Even grouping the series of events as 'knickergate' is meaningless.
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Have you ever been married, have you ever had a daughter? Do all the people in the house keep their underwear separate? Or do each of you wash your stained underwear first before you actually put them in the washing basket.
It seems there are some very odd people around here or my standards are very odd. Maggie I'm far from odd Maggie. Hygienic yes. But, I have the use of a washing machine and I don't have to stick my hands/fingers in a relative strangers dirty gusset which I personally wouldn't find acceptable. It may be acceptable for you to do that but for me it would not be. I daresay there are many others that wouldn't cherish the idea of handling soiled underwear from relative strangers. If you find that odd, then so be it.
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I've never rinsed my undies before putting them in the wash.
![]() And I only cheap stuff from BHS,or Marks and Spencer. And there's been no such effect as permanent stainage. |
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I read somewhere tonight (Think it was Tellymix) that the guys had collected items to wash. It may be that the men were fed up of seeing stuff all over the place and Danielle and Megan's reaction to it as they have been irate about it to say the least so they perhaps decided just to collect everyones clothes and do the biz.
Against most of this forums opinions I think I may well have reacted like the men did. Darren uttered ugh or something and Christopher ran away. I think he actually made the same comment. I think too I would have been tempted to name and shame. Does that make me a bad person or a villain - you decide. I do know if it had been my own child I would have gone ballistic about her leaving discharge stained knickers on the floor in the first place. In a plastic bag (if no washing machine) and certainly not on my floors. When I was young if I left my clothes (not knickers) lying around the place my mother used to sling them out of the window into the rain sometimes to teach me a lesson so guess i was brought up with standards which have stayed with me. My own mother "shamed" me in a different sort of way. Was she a bully? Again, you decide ![]() I was bought up to put dirty laundry in the basket. Had I left anything on the floor it would have been flung out into the garden lol. In my household if anything requires a little extra attention, it gets a soak in the sink with a dollop of vanish. I'm a stickler for hygiene. This house must have the shiniest gussets in the whole of Christendom lol ![]()
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Have you ever been married, have you ever had a daughter? Do all the people in the house keep their underwear separate? Or do each of you wash your stained underwear first before you actually put them in the washing basket.
It seems there are some very odd people around here or my standards are very odd. Maggie I have lived in communal situations all my life. Growing up with sisters, sharing flats with other women, or living with a male partner. Never once have I experienced someone leaving obviously soiled knickers lying around, or adding them to a shared laundry bag. It's about having a bit of privacy, dignity and respect for others. |
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Happily married, one daughter. Of course my family don't keep their washing separate. But they are my family, not random strangers.
I'm far from odd Maggie. Hygienic yes. But, I have the use of a washing machine and I don't have to stick my hands/fingers in a relative strangers dirty gusset which I personally wouldn't find acceptable. It may be acceptable for you to do that but for me it would not be. I daresay there are many others that wouldn't cherish the idea of handling soiled underwear from relative strangers. If you find that odd, then so be it. ![]() |
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John may not have put the underwear on the table, but when Christopher covered it up John uncovered it and wanted to name and shame and took great pleasure in it all.
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Steph left them in a pile of clothes to be washed. The boys left them on a table. I know Chris tried to put them back, but John insisted on leaving them there. That's more unhygienic yet nobody called them on it .
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I have lived in communal situations all my life. Growing up with sisters, sharing flats with other women, or with a male partner. Never once have I experienced someone leaving soiled knickers lying around, or adding them to a shared laundry bag. If I have soiled knickers I wash them as soon as I take them off.
It's about having a bit of privacy, dignity and respect for others. |
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