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The Ratings Thread (Part 67)
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JustChrisM
29-01-2016
How did I miss the second EE episode last night!

iPlayer to the rescue!

Originally Posted by Score:
“Ouch. There's an obvious crossover here as EE was also hit.

It does feel like BBC1 deliberately schedules a few EE episodes up against Birds. They did it last year too and it knocked it a bit. Perhaps some bitterness about it doing well after they passed on it? EE doesn't normally find itself at 8.30pm on a Thursday so it does feel rather deliberate two years in a row.”

I guess the football tonight means it had to be on twice last night.
simonk243
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Others...

Death in Paradise: 6.01m (28.1%)
Celebrity Antiques Road Trip: 1.61m (8.2%)
The Story of China: 1.34m (6.3%)
Location, Location, Location: 1.90m (8.9%)
Restoration Man: 1.40m (6.6%)
First Dates: 1.03m (7.3%)
Ben Fogle's New Lives in the Wild: 0.67m (3.4%)
Britain's Bloody Crown: 0.64m (3.0%)
Traffic Cops: 0.64m (3.0%)

”

I dont understand why they are showing new episodes of traffic cops on "BBC3" is this the end for the show ? I only came across it by accident, most people will think there repeats, even though it had "new" on the epg I thought maybe it meant new to bbc3.
Markynotts
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Last night's ratings: Birds of a Feather's recent momentum was well and truly halted by facing EastEnders, posting 2.64m (12.2%) exc. HD and +1.”

Poor for BOAF. As soon as something decent is shown as an alternative it just crumbles.
H of De Vil
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Last night's ratings: EastEnders pulled in a decent 6.76m (33.5%) at 7:30pm, but only 5.56m (25.6%) returned for the second episode at 8:30pm.”

Serves them bloody well right for trying to kill of Birds Of A Feather. I expect another EE to pop up at 8.30pm on Thursday before the series is out.
H of De Vil
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“Poor for BOAF. As soon as something decent is shown as an alternative it just crumbles.”

It did 4.2m inc+1 against EE last time, which is not crumbling, but lets see what the HD and +1 makes up. Probably around 3.5m-4m.
jake lyle
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Last night's ratings: Birds of a Feather's recent momentum was well and truly halted by facing EastEnders, posting 2.64m (12.2%) exc. HD and +1.”

Oh dear another show which has benefited by being scheduled against Dickensian. Not surprised though it was being beaten by 'Eat well for less' last year.
H of De Vil
29-01-2016
Thanks for the ratings guys
Markynotts
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Serves them bloody well right for trying to kill of Birds Of A Feather. I expect another EE to pop up at 8.30pm on Thursday before the series is out.”

So just where were the BBC supposed to place Eastenders considering that Football is on tonight ?

ED was at 8pm on ITV and 9pm had a regular drama episode scheduled on BBC One.
ftv
29-01-2016
BBC 6.30 regional 5.876 million
BBC 6 5.243 m
BBC 10 4.328
BBC 10.30 regional 3.835 m
Servalan
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Serves them bloody well right for trying to kill of Birds Of A Feather. I expect another EE to pop up at 8.30pm on Thursday before the series is out.”

Unfortunately ITV started all this by upping the EE/ED clashes last year, and the BBC is now (foolishly and pointlessly) playing the same game.

The reality is that the schedules are decided way in advance and it would be more sensible to just show fewer episodes of the continuing dramas, rather than make up missed slots with extra ones.
Score
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Oh dear another show which has benefited by being scheduled against Dickensian. Not surprised though it was being beaten by 'Eat well for less' last year.”

It has never aired against Dickensian. A fact check wouldn't hurt.
H of De Vil
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“Unfortunately ITV started all this by upping the EE/ED clashes last year, and the BBC is now (foolishly and pointlessly) playing the same game.

The reality is that the schedules are decided way in advance and it would be more sensible to just show fewer episodes of the continuing dramas, rather than make up missed slots with extra ones.”

I don't like the Emmerdale, EE clashes either. Its pointless and damages both soaps. Hopefully Lygo will stop this nonsense.
davey_wavey
29-01-2016
Hopefully Birds will look a bit better when HD and +1 is included. It's a shame to see a comedy rate badly, as we need to see more comedy on TV. There's not enough funny pre watershed comedy, there needs to be more of it and less of the continuing dramas to keep the variety in the schedule. And low ratings may put channels off trying more comedy.

Birds has done really well so far this series though, so hopefully this week will have just been a blip and it'll be back to healthier figures next week.
Servalan
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I don't like the Emmerdale, EE clashes either. Its pointless and damages both soaps. Hopefully Lygo will stop this nonsense.”

I agree (another post on this thread that should be sent as a memo to Lygo).

Surely ITV has bigger things to worry about right now ...?

Speaking of which, what did Jericho get last night?
Bad Ambassador
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“Unfortunately ITV started all this by upping the EE/ED clashes last year, and the BBC is now (foolishly and pointlessly) playing the same game.”

They're not though, are they? They *could* have scheduled an hour-long EastEnders last night so it clashed with the second Emmerdale, which *would* have been "playing the same game". But instead they scheduled EastEnders against an entirely different type of programme. What else are they supposed to do? I'm not sure why Birds of a Feather should be so sacred.
jake lyle
29-01-2016
No sign of BOAF in the ITV Media top 10.
So below 3.8m incl HD and +1.

It has Dickensian for the next 2 weeks so I'm sure it will get an artificial boost those weeks. But as we saw last series against Eat well for less, quite a weak performer given the brand name and history.
Servalan
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by Bad Ambassador:
“They're not though, are they? They *could* have scheduled an hour-long EastEnders last night so it clashed with the second Emmerdale, which *would* have been "playing the same game". But instead they scheduled EastEnders against an entirely different type of programme. What else are they supposed to do? I'm not sure why Birds of a Feather should be so sacred.”

That would have been a more inflammatory move. What they've done instead is go against the first episode of a new series of Midsomer Murders, then target a sitcom which is doing OK. A slyer move in both instances.

I'm not suggesting any programe should be 'sacred'. What I'm suggesting is that 'extra' episodes of any continuing drama, scheduled out of the slots they usually inhabit, just aren't necessary. What will happen if there are less than usual episodes of a continuing drama occasionally? Nothing - so why bother with them in the first place?
iaindb
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“No sign of BOAF in the ITV Media top 10.
So below 3.8m incl HD and +1.

It has Dickensian for the next 2 weeks so I'm sure it will get an artificial boost those weeks. But as we saw last series against Eat well for less, quite a weak performer given the brand name and history.”

It has Room 101 for the next 2 weeks.

Even if BOAF was down to 3m incl +1 last night, that still leaves it above most other sitcoms on TV these days, and with tough opposition.

ITV help Birds out by repeating last night's episode tonight at 10.40, the first repeat screening of the series, I believe.
iaindb
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“That would have been a more inflammatory move. What they've done instead is go against the first episode of a new series of Midsomer Murders, then target a sitcom which is doing OK. A slyer move in both instances.

I'm not suggesting any programe should be 'sacred'. What I'm suggesting is that 'extra' episodes of any continuing drama, scheduled out of the slots they usually inhabit, just aren't necessary. What will happen if there are less than usual episodes of a continuing drama occasionally? Nothing - so why bother with them in the first place?”

Budgets for the sopas are decided at the start of the financial year, though, surely.

"This is your budget for the year and we expect x number of episodes." Only then will they check out the schedule. Probably.
H of De Vil
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“No sign of BOAF in the ITV Media top 10.
So below 3.8m incl HD and +1.

It has Dickensian for the next 2 weeks so I'm sure it will get an artificial boost those weeks. But as we saw last series against Eat well for less, quite a weak performer given the brand name and history.”

The articifial boost is minimal on ITV, unlike SOAH on Sunday BBC1. Put SOAH on ITV in that Thursday slot, and it'd be down to Birds ratings - or probably lower and been axed by now.

Its has Room 101 for the next two weeks.
Mr Sirs
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“It has Room 101 for the next 2 weeks.

Even if BOAF was down to 3m incl +1 last night, that still leaves it above most other sitcoms on TV these days, and with tough opposition.

ITV help Birds out by repeating last night's episode tonight at 10.40, the first repeat screening of the series, I believe.”

According to the guide it's no. 4 (of 8) tonight.
dullagj2
29-01-2016
Mediatel exc+1:

Dickensian: 2.5m (13%)
Birds of a Feather: 3.1m (15%)
Jericho: 2.3m (11%)
cylon6
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“It did 4.2m inc+1 against EE last time, which is not crumbling, but lets see what the HD and +1 makes up. Probably around 3.5m-4m.”

Birds Of A Feather had 3.21m with 190k on ITV +1 last night. Birds does well when the competition isn't strong, like most programmes really. Last year it was struggling in the overnights against Eat Well For Less. That was a head scratcher.
Servalan
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Budgets for the sopas are decided at the start of the financial year, though, surely.

"This is your budget for the year and we expect x number of episodes." Only then will they check out the schedule. Probably.”

But schedulers will know the dates of major sporting events well in advance - so I can't believe this plays that much of a role.

Additionally, surely if EE, ED or CS undeliver one year, the extra money can come out of the budget for the following year? It's not like the future of any of them hangs in the balance.
cylon6
29-01-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Serves them bloody well right for trying to kill of Birds Of A Feather. I expect another EE to pop up at 8.30pm on Thursday before the series is out.”

Football on Friday, so no EastEnders. No different from ITV moving a displaced Friday Coronation Street to Thursday. You must have been out of the country when this happened.
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