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The Ratings Thread (Part 67)
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stv viewer
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“I'm going by the witterings of the Sun Leader writer not the 3rd rate TV critic who like all TV critics are failed serious journalists.

And i'm sure Match of The Day will be very surprised that Lineker doesn't work for them.”

He works for both. But BT is skys rival so I get what the poster was referring too
Ray Tings
05-05-2016
From Mediatel (exc +1):

http://mediatel.co.uk/newsline/2016/...our-nets-4-8m/
kwynne42
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“He works for both. But BT is skys rival so I get what the poster was referring too”

yes well The Sun probably thinks that BT should be abolished as well as the BBC heh
Dancc
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“The Supervet: 1.43m (7.1%)
One Born Every Minute: 1.04m (5.1%)”

Good for The Supervet, similar to the number The Yorkshire Vet managed the night before.

But must be said that's a fairly ghastly figure for One Born Every Minute, its lowest ever overnight I'd assume. It dropped off a fair bit during last summer's run and it looks like the trend is continuing this year.
Jonwo
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Good for The Supervet, similar to the number The Yorkshire Vet managed the night before.

But must be said that's a fairly ghastly figure for One Born Every Minute, its lowest ever overnight I'd assume. It dropped off a fair bit during last summer's run and it looks like the trend is continuing this year.”

Maybe people are getting bored with babies and more interested in pets 😄

Channel 4 does seem to be a bit of a slump ratings wise aside from Gogglebox.
Dancc
05-05-2016
Just checked and since the start of April there's only been 80 pages of posts here. Over the same period last year there was 108.

We knew DS were shooting themselves in the foot by ending their ratings reports, but I didn't anticipate things being this bad. More than 20% drop in activity on one of their biggest threads, probably much higher than that in terms of impressions. Less impressions = less ad clicks = bad business.

Sure, we'd be down a bit anyway if one or two regulars have stopped posting since last year, but there's no way the place would be this dead.
Dancc
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Maybe people are getting bored with babies and more interested in pets 😄

Channel 4 does seem to be a bit of a slump ratings wise aside from Gogglebox.”

Yeah, I'm not at all convinced by C4 at the moment. Things started to go south early in the spring, and it feels like the wheels could be well and truly off by the summer with lots of problem spots developing in the schedule and not as many bankers as usual.

Surprisingly Broadcast's choice of lead story today was a very positive take on Never Seen a Doctor, which rated well, especially for a 10pm show these days, but talk of "smashing" the slot average with a rating of 1.1m v the 850k they normally get seemed a bit OTT, especially as the slot average was significantly north of 850k in previous years.

I guess there's probably an element of Broadcast being more protective than usual of C4 given the current climate. But its ratings performance is only fair to poor right now overall as far as I'm concerned, and certainly not headline worthy.
Jo_Davids
05-05-2016
I know soap ratings tend to be discussed on here but on the Soap forums I've added a separate one (just for Soaps) so if you don't mind commenting on them over there than that would be great. I just thought more fans will access/comment/read them there and obviously they appeal to a direct audience rather than any TV show
Ray Tings
05-05-2016
From ITV Media (inc +1):

Hollyoaks (E4): 569k (3.5%)
The 100: 477k (2.3%)

https://www.itvmedia.co.uk/
Jaycee Dove
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Speaking Of Driving the Sun also say the 2nd series of Car Share has started filming, bet that won't take as long to come on screen as the first series did.”

They had photos in the Manchester Evening News the other night showing pictures of him filming in a car clashing with a cyclist!
Andy23
05-05-2016
I expected the prison doc to do better as viewers generally like that sort of thing. It was up against the finals of a reality TV series though so that probably took viewers away.
A.D.P
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Just checked and since the start of April there's only been 80 pages of posts here. Over the same period last year there was 108.

We knew DS were shooting themselves in the foot by ending their ratings reports, but I didn't anticipate things being this bad. More than 20% drop in activity on one of their biggest threads, probably much higher than that in terms of impressions. Less impressions = less ad clicks = bad business.

Sure, we'd be down a bit anyway if one or two regulars have stopped posting since last year, but there's no way the place would be this dead.”

And

One/two posters, here make this thread less enjoyable.
Andy23
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Just checked and since the start of April there's only been 80 pages of posts here. Over the same period last year there was 108.”

Was Samuel still here this time last year?

If he was bear in mind there would be a 10 page argument every weekend as he set out the reasons why BGT is a ratings disaster.

I doubt DS are concerned about the clicks on this thread, there are many threads near here full of complete drivel that go on for many pages to make up for it.
Pizzatheaction
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Just checked and since the start of April there's only been 80 pages of posts here. Over the same period last year there was 108.”

And at least ten of the pages since the ratings reports ended were generated by Leary's return to a certain talent show.
Jay Lee
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I expected the prison doc to do better as viewers generally like that sort of thing. It was up against the finals of a reality TV series though so that probably took viewers away.”

Sounds like John Whittingdale is posting on this thread.
Andy23
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“Sounds like John Whittingdale is posting on this thread.”

And that is why the thread is so quiet.
Dan R
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Was Samuel still here this time last year?

If he was bear in mind there would be a 10 page argument every weekend as he set out the reasons why BGT is a ratings disaster.

I doubt DS are concerned about the clicks on this thread, there are many threads near here full of complete drivel that go on for many pages to make up for it.”

I'm fairly sure he was already banned right at the start of 2015.
Yes, I agree! The place is much nicer without Samuel that's for sure, hopefully posts will level out, but we don't need some troll like that ruining the thread just for activity.
Score
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Just checked and since the start of April there's only been 80 pages of posts here. Over the same period last year there was 108.

We knew DS were shooting themselves in the foot by ending their ratings reports, but I didn't anticipate things being this bad. More than 20% drop in activity on one of their biggest threads, probably much higher than that in terms of impressions. Less impressions = less ad clicks = bad business.

Sure, we'd be down a bit anyway if one or two regulars have stopped posting since last year, but there's no way the place would be this dead.”

It is so disheartening to see how activity here has dropped off. I haven't checked but I suspect 2014 would have been higher again. We've lost quite a lot of the old crowd over the last year or two and haven't had as many newbies drop in. I definitely think DS ending their reports has a big role to play in this. It's a real shame as this has always been the best thread on DS and it has definitely become much quieter of late. The constant unfunny Whittingdale remarks over the slightest thing don't help but they aren't the main issue. I'm not sure how we can try and get things going again a bit more either. With DS seemingly more focussed on becoming a shit Buzzfeed knock-off (which is saying something) they clearly aren't going to restore the ratings roundups any time soon. I get that it isn't the most exciting time of year for ratings but even so, it shouldn't be this quiet. Like you said the other day, Corrie's dismal numbers would be a much bigger story right now if the thread was as busy as it once was. A pity.
Jay Lee
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“And that is why the thread is so quiet.”

Alas, I don't think you can accuse me personally of bringing down the thread. Unless speaking up for the BBC at times is forbidden here. Oh wait...
lewiep93
05-05-2016
This'll probably cause a world war but hey, it's ratings.

Most Watched Programmes of 2016 [Top 20 - Officials]
01 - 11.94m - Britain’s Got Talent (16/04/16) - ITV
02 - 11.64m - Sherlock (01/01/16) - BBC 1
03 - 10.89m - Call the Midwife (06/03/16) - BBC 1
04 - 9.40m - EastEnders (01/01/16) - BBC 1
05 - 9.34m - Happy Valley (15/03/16) - BBC 1
06 - 9.12m - The Night Manager (27/03/16) - BBC 1
07 - 8.97m - Coronation Street (04/01/16) - ITV
08 - 8.76m - Countryfile (07/02/16) - BBC 1
09 - 8.72m - Silent Witness (05/01/16) - BBC 1
10 - 8.71m - Death in Paradise (07/01/16) - BBC 1
11 - 8.42m - War and Peace (03/01/16) - BBC 1
12 - 8.11m - Ant and Dec’s Saturday Night Takeaway (20/02/16) - ITV
13 - 8.06m - Attenborough and the Giant Dinosaur (24/01/16) - BBC 1
14 - 7.92m - Mrs Brown’s Boys (01/01/16) - BBC 1
15 - 7.87m - The Voice UK (09/01/16) - BBC 1
16 - 7.86m - The Durrells (03/04/16) - ITV
17 - 7.75m - Still Open All Hours (24/01/16) - BBC 1
18 - 7.56m - Marcella (04/04/16) - ITV
19 - 7.46m - Elizabeth at 90: A Family Tribute (21/04/16) - BBC 1
20 - 7.45m - Emmerdale (04/01/16) - ITV

Most Watched Programmes of 2016 [Top 20 - Officials inc. +1]
01 - 12.46m - Britain’s Got Talent (16/04/16) - ITV
02 - 11.64m - Sherlock (01/01/16) - BBC 1
03 - 10.89m - Call the Midwife (06/03/16) - BBC 1
04 - 9.40m - EastEnders (01/01/16) - BBC 1
05 - 9.34m - Happy Valley (15/03/16) - BBC 1
06 - 9.14m - Coronation Street (04/01/16) - ITV
07 - 9.12m - The Night Manager (27/03/16) - BBC 1
08 - 8.76m - Countryfile (07/02/16) - BBC 1
09 - 8.72m - Silent Witness (05/01/16) - BBC 1
10 - 8.71m - Death in Paradise (07/01/16) - BBC 1
11 - 8.69m - Ant and Dec’s Saturday Night Takeaway (20/02/16) - ITV
12 - 8.42m - War and Peace (03/01/16) - BBC 1
13 - 8.20m - The Durrells (03/04/16) - ITV
14 - 8.06m - Attenborough and the Giant Dinosaur (24/01/16) - BBC 1
15 - 8.04m - Marcella (04/04/16) - ITV
16 - 7.92m - Mrs Brown’s Boys (01/01/16) - BBC 1
17 - 7.87m - The Voice UK (09/01/16) - BBC 1
18 - 7.75m - Still Open All Hours (24/01/16) - BBC 1
19 - 7.69m - When Ant and Dec Met the Prince (04/01/16) - ITV
20 - 7.66m - Emmerdale (04/01/16) - ITV
dennisboy
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“It is so disheartening to see how activity here has dropped off. I haven't checked but I suspect 2014 would have been higher again. We've lost quite a lot of the old crowd over the last year or two and haven't had as many newbies drop in. I definitely think DS ending their reports has a big role to play in this. It's a real shame as this has always been the best thread on DS and it has definitely become much quieter of late. The constant unfunny Whittingdale remarks over the slightest thing don't help but they aren't the main issue. I'm not sure how we can try and get things going again a bit more either. With DS seemingly more focussed on becoming a shit Buzzfeed knock-off (which is saying something) they clearly aren't going to restore the ratings roundups any time soon. I get that it isn't the most exciting time of year for ratings but even so, it shouldn't be this quiet. Like you said the other day, Corrie's dismal numbers would be a much bigger story right now if the thread was as busy as it once was. A pity.”

Just checked and 2014 had 211 pages in the same period of time

2014: 211
2015: 108
2016: 80
Jay Lee
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I expected the prison doc to do better as viewers generally like that sort of thing. It was up against the finals of a reality TV series though so that probably took viewers away.”

I do have an issue with this kind of argument that BBC One is the sole reason why some itv programmes don't perform well. We're living in a multi-channel, multi-media world. There are more factors at play now than the 4 channel environment we had in the 1980s. Fair enough, Masterchef did well but it's not a spectacular performer. There is definitely the potential there for itv - or any other broadcaster out there - to crush or dent it if it wanted to. Why can't some people simply concede that, at times, itv simply doesn't air programmes that viewers don't want to watch in huge numbers?

Before anyone accuses me of hypocrisy, yes, I do speak up for the BBC on the occasions when I post here but even I know it can broadcast some right old rubbish at times - the most recent examples being Can't touch this and The Getaway Car, both deservedly falling flat on their ratings faces.
Jokanovic
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“Sounds like John Whittingdale is posting on this thread.”

The name Masterchef has been banned I assume. Got to call it a reality final.instead.
Andy23
05-05-2016
I'm sorry but I'm not sure why I'm being singled out and targeted this evening.

I made a point that prison shows have been popular in the past, and I would have expected this one to be as well, but because the finals of Masterchef was against it, and we know how popular that is, and reality/challenge shows in general, that would possibly be part of the reason why it didn't do that well this time.

What exactly is wrong with that summary?

No wonder the thread is quiet when a perfectly innocent post causes so much abuse. It seems some people have started an argument against something that wasn't there.
Jay Lee
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I'm sorry but I'm not sure why I'm being singled out and targeted this evening.

I made a point that prison shows have been popular in the past, and I would have expected this one to be as well, but because the finals of Masterchef was against it, and we know how popular that is, and reality/challenge shows in general, that would possibly be part of the reason why it didn't do that well this time.

What exactly is wrong with that summary?

No wonder the thread is quiet when a perfectly innocent post causes so much abuse. It seems some people have started an argument against something that wasn't there.”

Apologies if that John Whittingdale comment offended you. You say "so much abuse", though, which is a misrepresentation of what was originally a one line (admittedly sarcastic and ill-judged) remark. It wasn't intended to be personal - but suggesting that itv programmes don't do well because of the BBC opposition is something that Whittingdale has certainly been doing. Your comment echoed that sentiment, that was all. My bigger gripe is therefore explained in my longer post above - and this was not "abuse" at all but a reasoned response to your point.
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