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Ray Tings
19-05-2016
C4 (exc +1)
The Supervet: 1.65m (8.4%)
One Born Every Minute: 1.04m (5.2%)
Never Seen a Doctor: 0.60m (4.2%)

Last night's episode of The Supervet attracted an average audience of 1.8m from 8-9pm, up +37% on the slot average
including +1
Channel 4 Press@C4Press

C5 (exc +1)
Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: 1.21m (6.1%)
Nightmare Tenants, Slum Landlords: 0.90m (5.9%)
GPs: Behind Closed Doors: 0.87m (4.4%)
Score
19-05-2016
BC One
Lose Weight For Love: 2.37m (12.1%)
Nature's Epic Journeys: 2.40m (12.1%)

ITV INC +1:
Tonight at the London Palladium: 3.46m (17.6%)
Killer Women with Piers Morgan: 3.46m (17.4%)

UEFA Europa League Final: 1.61m (8.6%)
northlad
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“BC One
Lose Weight For Love: 2.37m (12.1%)
Nature's Epic Journeys: 2.40m (12.1%)

ITV INC +1:
Tonight at the London Palladium: 3.46m (17.6%)
Killer Women with Piers Morgan: 3.46m (17.4%)

UEFA Europa League Final: 1.61m (8.6%)”

Some very poor ratings of late for BBC1,at ITV Tuesday night level.
What do the first 4 month averages look like.
Ray Tings
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“Lose Weight For Love: 2.37m (12.1%)
Nature's Epic Journeys: 2.40m (12.1%)”

Thanks Score.
Some more BBC ratings:

BBC1
BBC News (10pm): 3.79m (23.0%)
The One Show: 3.33m (18.4%)

BBC2
Mary Beard's Ultimate Rome: Empire Without Limit (9pm): 1.12m (5.7%)
Attenborough's Life That Glows (Repeat) (8pm): 1.07m (5.5%)
QI (Repeat): 1.06m (6.4%)

BBC4
Film: Billy Elliot (Repeat): 0.48m (2.6%)
Addicted to Sheep (Repeat): 0.30m (1.5%)
Handmade on the Silk Road: 0.21m (1.1%)
Ray Tings
19-05-2016
Hollyoaks (E4): 0.53m (3.0%)
Arrow: 0.34m (1.7%)
The 100: 0.29m (1.5%)
Supernatural: 0.17m (1.2%)
Grey's Anatomy: 0.15m (1.0%)
Madam Secretary: 0.14m (0.7%)

excluding +1
dullagj2
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“BC One
Lose Weight For Love: 2.37m (12.1%)
Nature's Epic Journeys: 2.40m (12.1%)

ITV INC +1:
Tonight at the London Palladium: 3.46m (17.6%)
Killer Women with Piers Morgan: 3.46m (17.4%)

UEFA Europa League Final: 1.61m (8.6%)”

Thanks Score & Ray Tings. Great rating for the football, it would've been good for 5m+ on ITV.

Anything for the soaps please?
Ray Tings
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by dullagj2:
“Anything for the soaps please? ”

Excluding HD and +1:
Emmerdale (19:01-19:27): 4.75m
Coronation Street (19:32-19:58): 4.94m
jlp95bwfc
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“]

UEFA Europa League Final: 1.61m (8.6%)”

Full figures from seagull_Mark including viewers on BT Sport Showcase:

Liverpool v Sevilla - Europa League Final viewing figures;
19:00-22.30 BTS Europe - 1.613 million (peak 2.557m) 8.57% share
19:00-22:30 BTS Showcase - 606,000 (peak 972,000) 3.22% share

Combined programme audience 2.219 million
Ray Tings
19-05-2016
From ITV Media (inc +1):

Coronation Street: 6.09m (32%)
Emmerdale: 5.71m (33%)
Hollyoaks (E4): 725k (4.2%)

https://www.itvmedia.co.uk/
fmradiotuner1
19-05-2016
they could be many more bad nights coming for BBC1 with all the cut backs?
derek500
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by dullagj2:
“Thanks Score & Ray Tings. Great rating for the football, it would've been good for 5m+ on ITV.
”

BT Showcase also had an average audience of 606k and it was live on YouTube.

For the first time last night BT unencrypted BT Sport Europe SD on Sky so non subscribing homes could watch (should have done it for all Showcase matches). That would have had an impact if word got around.

Pressure from EUFA no doubt as the promised FTA coverage has had dismal figures.

Crappy low resolution/bitrate on Showcase/Sky/YouTube though. Not a great advert for BT.
Score
19-05-2016
Kevin Lygo has been talking to Broadcast about changing ITV's approach to entertainment and factual:

Quote:
““I see ITV as primarily an entertainment channel. An enjoyable, happy experience is always a good thing. After a hard day’s work, you want ITV to be uplifting.”

He said entertainment would begin to bleed into the midweek schedule and that it could be given prestige slots.

“We never play entertainment at 9pm in the week – why not? We haven’t got enough money to run drama every night. We’ve tried lots of factual and it’s really tough.”

Those weekday shows will largely be the responsibility of Davey, while Greene is tasked with strengthening or reinvigorating ITV’s existing entertainment juggernauts, and handling the launch of The Voice.

Another focus will be establishing confident non-scripted returners. Lygo highlighted the job that shows such as Hell’s Kitchen and Holidays From Hell have done in the past, and summed up the challenge: “If you went onto the street and asked people about ITV shows that play before 9pm and aren’t soaps, they would struggle to latch onto distinctive, returning series.”

Lygo is keen to find the ITV equivalent of pre-watershed BBC1 shows such as MasterChef, The Great British Bake Off and Watchdog, and said he is prepared to “take some bigger bets”.

“We need to give shows longer runs, to test them, to try to make them work. In the plethora of choice facing a viewer, it’s really hard for a nice thing tucked away on a Monday night to cut through.

“If we say to viewers ‘this is what we want to do, it’s here for eight weeks, look at the trails’, then the confidence of the channel behind these shows transmits to the viewer.”

Lygo’s strategy is to revisit classic areas with a modern approach and to reimagine emerging trends through the prism of a mainstream British channel.

In the first case, he pointed out: “ITV doesn’t have a food programme. That’s fine if you’ve lifted every rock in the country and can’t find one – but I don’t suspect we’ve done that.”

On finding ITV’s take on topical moments, he added: “Take crime docs, and the success you see on the fringes of things, like The Jinx and Making A Murderer – what is the modern way of doing that for ITV? Is it through Trevor McDonald or Piers Morgan? How are we going to tell these stories of everyday hideousness? Let’s get a plan together, pick our producers and run with it in a coherent way.””

http://m.broadcastnow.co.uk/5104155.article

Some interesting stuff there. Sounds like they'll be doing less 9pm factual with more entertainment going there instead. Given how badly most of the factual has done it certainly isn't an awful idea but the entertainment will have to be better than some of their recent new efforts to make it worthwhile.

It does sound like he's willing to take more risks than we've seen on ITV recently. Hopefully the new commissioning team can breathe some fresh life into what goes on screen.
Dancc
19-05-2016
Anything for Up Late with Rylan last night? Noticed a few stories about Amanda Holden's appearance yesterday.
Score
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Anything for Up Late with Rylan last night? Noticed a few stories about Amanda Holden's appearance yesterday.”

inc +1:
12/5/16- 190k (2.2%)
16/5/16- 167k (2.1%)
17/5/16- 213k (2.6%)
18/5/16- 321k (4.0%)

Looks like it did better than normal yesterday. Not sure if it had a better lead-in that normal.

Whilst I'm not a huge fan of her, she does tend to be good value on shows like that.
Dancc
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“inc +1:
12/5/16- 190k (2.2%)
16/5/16- 167k (2.1%)
17/5/16- 213k (2.6%)
18/5/16- 321k (4.0%)

Looks like it did better than normal yesterday. Not sure if it had a better lead-in that normal.

Whilst I'm not a huge fan of her, she does tend to be good value on shows like that.”

Thanks. Looks very lead-in dependent.

Generally I would say C5 is not doing well enough at 10pm at the moment to support an 11pm chat show. But that will change when BB starts next month, when this might have had half a chance.

This would have enabled them to scrap Bit On The Side which isn't rating as well as it used to and introduce a new pre-watershed spinoff at 7pm weeknights.
James J
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“Kevin Lygo has been talking to Broadcast about changing ITV's approach to entertainment and factual:



http://m.broadcastnow.co.uk/5104155.article

Some interesting stuff there. Sounds like they'll be doing less 9pm factual with more entertainment going there instead. Given how badly most of the factual has done it certainly isn't an awful idea but the entertainment will have to be better than some of their recent new efforts to make it worthwhile.

It does sound like he's willing to take more risks than we've seen on ITV recently. Hopefully the new commissioning team can breathe some fresh life into what goes on screen.”

Interesting article! I do hope Kevin Lygo is a real improvement upon Fincham the Wimp.

I still maintain Corrie should return to its old Sun, Mon (x2), Wed, Fri slots and this would open up both a stronger 8pm slot on Sunday and potential for stuff in the 8pm hour on Friday.

All those thoughts about ents sound good too to be honest. I'd actually be in favour of moving some of the Sunday night light ent stuff to Fridays or other weeknights, if it meant Sunday returned to being Corrie leading into cozy drama.
Score
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
“Interesting article! I do hope Kevin Lygo is a real improvement upon Fincham the Wimp.

I still maintain Corrie should return to its old Sun, Mon (x2), Wed, Fri slots and this would open up both a stronger 8pm slot on Sunday and potential for stuff in the 8pm hour on Friday.

All those thoughts about ents sound good too to be honest. I'd actually be in favour of moving some of the Sunday night light ent stuff to Fridays or other weeknights, if it meant Sunday returned to being Corrie leading into cozy drama.”

I think if Corrie were to return to Sundays then Emmerdale should go with it. Countryfile is actually really strong at 7pm so they'd need to have something strong to pair with Corrie rather than just having Corrie starting halfway through Countryfile with something on 2.5m leading into it.

I like the idea but it'd leave them quite exposed on Thursdays and Fridays. I'd probably try and launch lots of new things in the current midweek slots they have and if they could get a few hits in midweek it'd put them in a stronger position to move the soaps. The other upside is that it would eliminate that rather awkward Thursday 8.30pm slot.

I wonder what sort of new shows he'll be looking to launch and in what slots? I think they need to be more ambitious on Wednesdays at 8pm and also on Mondays at 8pm with 30 minute shows. Wednesdays at 8pm are quite a cushy slot (aside from the 10 weeks of Bake Off) and the right older skewing show could hold a lot more of that Corrie audience than the current Monday 8pm offerings do. They really need to sort Tuesdays out somehow as well.
Steve Williams
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“I was wondering if someone could explain how the big Golden handcuff deals worked in the late 90s / early 2000s. I know actors and presenters got them buymt Now the only ones that seem to get them are Ant and Dec and maybe a few other presenters”

ITV did have quite a lot of actors on golden handcuffs deals in the nineties, big names like John Thaw and David Jason who they wanted to keep doing their big shows for ITV. I think the exact moment ITV decided not to put actors on golden handcuffs anymore is when they gave one to Ross Kemp at the end of the nineties - they could never find anything for him to do so they ended up whacking him in a load of undistinguished one-offs and dull series where he was in them for the sake of it. Nick Berry was another one, he did a load of one-offs that did not much and I remember William Phillips in Broadcast saying "Perhaps viewers only like that face under a helmet".

In terms of golden handcuffs deals for actors I think those days are gone because I don't think it works well for anyone. It means that instead of choosing the best person to be in a drama you end up having to use someone under contract even if they're not the most suitable choice - I wonder how many of the Ross Kemp dramas might have worked better if they hadn't had Ross Kemp in them? - so I don't think writers and directors are very interested in them. And the actors themselves can't really pick and choose what they do because they're a bit limited to mainstream ITV stuff and they have to do X shows a year. And it's only really exceptional actors that viewers make a point of watching in anything because it's them, John Thaw and David Jason were probably two of the only people who could have done it. Even those two ended up doing quite a lot of undistinguished fare on ITV for the sake of it.

It's different with presenters because you have far more flexibility and most presenters, if they're any good, can front any format in a perfectly professional manner - and of course they're popular because of their own personalities, rather than the characters they play.

Of course, not everyone who only appears on one channel is on a golden handcuffs deal, they may simply be offered so much work on one channel they don't have time to work for anyone else. And other people may specifically always want to work with the same people on the same channel because they like working there so much.

Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“What is Adrian Chiles doing these days ?”

Lots of things, he's a regular presenter on Five Live and he did a documentary series about Catholicism for the Beeb earlier this year which did alright as these things go. I still think he's a good presenter, and it may not have worked out for him on ITV but so what? You can't force people to stay in the same job forever. He'd been at the Beeb for a long time so probably fancied a change. Indeed, it may not have even been a golden handcuffs contract anyway, certainly he was doing stuff on Five Live while still at ITV. Indeed, when Des Lynam joined ITV, which was probably one of their highest profile poachings ever, they said he could still carry on doing his show on Radio 2 if he wanted, and the Beeb said they'd keep him on as well. But he decided not to, and make a clean break from the Beeb.

I see one poster on this thread has suggested someone at the Beeb is on a golden handcuffs deal and then two posts later says they don't do them. A remarkable U-turn even by this thread's standards.

Originally Posted by fmradiotuner1:
“they could be many more bad nights coming for BBC1 with all the cut backs?”

I find this a bit of an overexaggeration. Last night was hardly a stellar night for BBC1 but they had fairly undistinguished factual at 8pm and 9pm. That's hardly unique to the current climate and there have been plenty of nights over the years on BBC1 when they've shown nondescript factual and done middling business, even when they were coining it in.

Originally Posted by marke09:
“According to the Independent series four of Sherlock may debut on Friday December 23 and be shown on Friday nights for its run”

I find that a bit hard to believe, I seriously doubt they've decided on the scheduling that far in advance. Fridays in January would seem to be unlikely anyway what with the FA Cup third round. The only reference to Sherlock scheduling I can see on the Independent is this article which says it'll probably start on New Year's Day - http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a7032226.html
James J
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“I think if Corrie were to return to Sundays then Emmerdale should go with it. Countryfile is actually really strong at 7pm so they'd need to have something strong to pair with Corrie rather than just having Corrie starting halfway through Countryfile with something on 2.5m leading into it.

I like the idea but it'd leave them quite exposed on Thursdays and Fridays. I'd probably try and launch lots of new things in the current midweek slots they have and if they could get a few hits in midweek it'd put them in a stronger position to move the soaps. The other upside is that it would eliminate that rather awkward Thursday 8.30pm slot.

I wonder what sort of new shows he'll be looking to launch and in what slots? I think they need to be more ambitious on Wednesdays at 8pm and also on Mondays at 8pm with 30 minute shows. Wednesdays at 8pm are quite a cushy slot (aside from the 10 weeks of Bake Off) and the right older skewing show could hold a lot more of that Corrie audience than the current Monday 8pm offerings do. They really need to sort Tuesdays out somehow as well.”

I'm not against them moving Emmerdale back as well at all. I would like to see an end to all these soap doubles apart from Monday's Coronation Street. As you said it would leave them exposed on Thursdays and Fridays, however, if Lygo is serious about this pre-watershed stuff there needs to be more slots available.

They could try some 2 hour drama on Wednesday at 8pm, then trial hour formats on Thursday at 8pm. I miss the days of the 8.30pm junction on Friday as the BBC used to put sitcoms there.

I think ITV could recoup Sunday nights again if they restored the 7pm soap block. It used to be ever such a strong evening for the channel; their recent successes at 8 and 9pm there are testament to it being possible.

People who say "I don't want to see soaps on Sundays" don't watch soaps but most importantly, don't watch ITV on Sundays. It is in ITV's best interests to bring the dramas back to Sunday and put the entertainment formats in the week IMO.

As for Tuesdays, I think they should be the least prioritised at the moment. The priority should be Sunday (8-10pm), Monday (9-10pm) and Wednesday (8-10pm), with future expansion on Thursdays (8-10pm) and Fridays (8.30pm onwards).
Jaycee Dove
19-05-2016
The thread on here shows the anger that ITV have created by axing Home Fires. Several mentions of not watching ITV on Sundays after doing so for weeks (a point I raised on here as I really believe this will damage The Durrells too as they were getting viewers in a bloc in my view).

Also that the ending on such a cliffhanger will deter them getting into new dramas for fear they will be left high and dry.

Very interesting to see that several who liked Home Fires were fans of Our Zoo but - as one put it - whilst they were sad to see Our Zoo go it was given a proper ending whereas ITV had commissioned scripts for series 3 of Home Fires thus letting it end in a very cruel way for viewers.

But the most ire inducing on there is the story of a disabled lady who went to the trouble of getting over 20,000 signatures asking for more Home Fires, trailing all the way to the ITV offices to deliver it and the man responsible for axing refused to even send his secretary down to the reception to receive it.

Real class from ITV there.
Markynotts
19-05-2016
Danger Mouse is returning for a second series on CBBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...name=corporate
Ben96
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
“I'm not against them moving Emmerdale back as well at all. I would like to see an end to all these soap doubles apart from Monday's Coronation Street. As you said it would leave them exposed on Thursdays and Fridays, however, if Lygo is serious about this pre-watershed stuff there needs to be more slots available.

They could try some 2 hour drama on Wednesday at 8pm, then trial hour formats on Thursday at 8pm. I miss the days of the 8.30pm junction on Friday as the BBC used to put sitcoms there.

I think ITV could recoup Sunday nights again if they restored the 7pm soap block. It used to be ever such a strong evening for the channel; their recent successes at 8 and 9pm there are testament to it being possible.

People who say "I don't want to see soaps on Sundays" don't watch soaps but most importantly, don't watch ITV on Sundays. It is in ITV's best interests to bring the dramas back to Sunday and put the entertainment formats in the week IMO.

As for Tuesdays, I think they should be the least prioritised at the moment. The priority should be Sunday (8-10pm), Monday (9-10pm) and Wednesday (8-10pm), with future expansion on Thursdays (8-10pm) and Fridays (8.30pm onwards).”

It'd be great to see a return to the soaps on Sundays, then they can git rid of Emmerdale's second Thursday episode and Friday's second corrie, sadly, I don't think it's going to happens it's been nearly ten years now since Emmerdale and corrie aired on Sundays.
The soap schedules are going to get messed up soon with episodes airing all over the place as the sport beings on ITV & BBC in a few weeks, not sure if this will have an affect on the ratings, does it usually?
stv viewer
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“ITV did have quite a lot of actors on golden handcuffs deals in the nineties, big names like John Thaw and David Jason who they wanted to keep doing their big shows for ITV. I think the exact moment ITV decided not to put actors on golden handcuffs anymore is when they gave one to Ross Kemp at the end of the nineties - they could never find anything for him to do so they ended up whacking him in a load of undistinguished one-offs and dull series where he was in them for the sake of it. Nick Berry was another one, he did a load of one-offs that did not much and I remember William Phillips in Broadcast saying "Perhaps viewers only like that face under a helmet".

In terms of golden handcuffs deals for actors I think those days are gone because I don't think it works well for anyone. It means that instead of choosing the best person to be in a drama you end up having to use someone under contract even if they're not the most suitable choice - I wonder how many of the Ross Kemp dramas might have worked better if they hadn't had Ross Kemp in them? - so I don't think writers and directors are very interested in them. And the actors themselves can't really pick and choose what they do because they're a bit limited to mainstream ITV stuff and they have to do X shows a year. And it's only really exceptional actors that viewers make a point of watching in anything because it's them, John Thaw and David Jason were probably two of the only people who could have done it. Even those two ended up doing quite a lot of undistinguished fare on ITV for the sake of it.

It's different with presenters because you have far more flexibility and most presenters, if they're any good, can front any format in a perfectly professional manner - and of course they're popular because of their own personalities, rather than the characters they play.

Of course, not everyone who only appears on one channel is on a golden handcuffs deal, they may simply be offered so much work on one channel they don't have time to work for anyone else. And other people may specifically always want to work with the same people on the same channel because they like working there so much.”

So I take it Thaw, Jason and Berry had there deals so they would continue doing Morse, Frost and Heartbeat respectively. I take it under Thaw's deal he also done Goodnight Mr Tom and Jason did Diamond Geezer. There the only other shows I cam remember them doing on ITV
dullagj2
19-05-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“From ITV Media (inc +1):

Coronation Street: 6.09m (32%)
Emmerdale: 5.71m (33%)
Hollyoaks (E4): 725k (4.2%)

https://www.itvmedia.co.uk/”

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“Excluding HD and +1:
Emmerdale (19:01-19:27): 4.75m
Coronation Street (19:32-19:58): 4.94m
”

Thanks. Corrie is in dire need of the BGT boost.

Originally Posted by Score:
“Kevin Lygo has been talking to Broadcast about changing ITV's approach to entertainment and factual:



http://m.broadcastnow.co.uk/5104155.article

Some interesting stuff there. Sounds like they'll be doing less 9pm factual with more entertainment going there instead. Given how badly most of the factual has done it certainly isn't an awful idea but the entertainment will have to be better than some of their recent new efforts to make it worthwhile.

It does sound like he's willing to take more risks than we've seen on ITV recently. Hopefully the new commissioning team can breathe some fresh life into what goes on screen.”

Holly's new dating show 'Meet the Parents' looks like it could be a hit this Autumn.
ftv
19-05-2016
Jason gave up Frost because he thought the character was too old to be a serving policeman.
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