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The Ratings Thread (Part 67)
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Salv*
06-02-2016
I'm disappointed in the treatment of 10000BC. I know it's doing poorly especially as it was losing around 2m from its lead but they should have just let it play out. Dumping it later just reminds me of what they do in America when they just cancel it half way through when they have no faith in a show.

The only bright spot for C5 now is the hope The X Files does well and can pull in at least 1.7m every week and launch with over 2m
H of De Vil
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I'm disappointed in the treatment of 10000BC. I know it's doing poorly especially as it was losing around 2m from its lead but they should have just let it play out. Dumping it later just reminds me of what they do in America when they just cancel it half way through when they have no faith in a show.

The only bright spot for C5 now is the hope The X Files does well and can pull in at least 1.7m every week and launch with over 2m”

When you get channels like ITV who keep flops in the schedule, and Ch5 would shunt flops out as soon as they drop to lower ratings, you have to wonder which is representing the best actions for the viewer.

Personally I think both think less of the viewer than they should.
Dancc
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“When you get channels like ITV who keep flops in the schedule, and Ch5 would shunt flops out as soon as they drop to lower ratings, you have to wonder which is representing the best actions for the viewer.

Personally I think both think less of the viewer than they should.”

I think the answer is probably somewhere in between the two. ITV seem to be too tolerant of low rating programmes, whereas C5 on the other hand hit the panic button too easily. I don't think it's a healthy thing for a broadcaster to become too blasé about such matters, but at the same time they don't want to have a reputation for being a channel that changes their schedule at the drop of a hat.

That said, ITV is a bigger network with much more in the way of resources and is therefore better positioned to take flops on the chin. Whereas each and every flop is going to be felt pretty hard on C5, and I don't think they can afford to waste a peak time slot like 10pm in the week on something rating 50% or more below the slot average.
Dancc
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“No surprise to see LSB so low when it's not in its usual slot.
Only big, established shows can pull similar-to-normal numbers when out of slot, and plus we're talking pretty late on in the evening here.”

Just to clarify, we don't actually know how LSB did yet. I was half asleep when I posted that this morning and failed to take into account it was on too late to have made Broadcast's top 3 anyway.

Apologies.
Salv*
06-02-2016
Hope we get to see some more ratings with +1. I want to see if LSB did that badly or if it was just too late to appear on the Broadcast page.
Stacey_Barlow
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Maybe people are sick of nasty downmarket, pointless TV.”

Exactly it just repitive and pointless, I don't know they show it two times a year. No one seems to care about except people who watch and there a reason why its in a low rated channel. It seems there never a break, After CBB, there will be Big brother and CBB overkill.
derek500
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
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The only bright spot for C5 now is the hope The X Files does well and can pull in at least 1.7m every week and launch with over 2m”

Forgetting the over inflated post football premiere episode it's not doing too bad in the US. The drop from episode two to three was only 13.5%, 9.665m to 8.367m.
Dancc
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Stacey_Barlow:
“Exactly it just repitive and pointless, I don't know they show it two times a year. No one seems to care about except people who watch and there a reason why its in a low rated channel. It seems there never a break, After CBB, there will be Big brother and CBB overkill.”

Nobody forces you to watch it, do they?

Since it's on such a low rating insignificant channel (according to you), then surely it doesn't matter if they decide to screen it 365 days a year?

They have to do what's right for viewers of their channel, end of story.
Dancc
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Forgetting the over inflated post football premiere episode it's not doing too bad in the US. The drop from episode two to three was only 13.5%, 9.665m to 8.367m.”

Doing a lot better in the demo than I expected as well, to be fair. I thought it would skew older.

It will have every chance over here. C5 found the perfect slot for it, against the odds given how competitive Monday nights normally are at this time of year.
Salv*
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Forgetting the over inflated post football premiere episode it's not doing too bad in the US. The drop from episode two to three was only 13.5%, 9.665m to 8.367m.”

Yep, it's doing fantastically compared to everything FOX gets (bar Empire) and despite Lucifer being only 2 episodes, X Files may have just made that a hit considering it got a 2.0 demo for the 2nd episode of Lucifer which for FOX is fantastic.
Stacey_Barlow
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Nobody forces you to watch it, do they?

Since it's on such a low rating insignificant channel (according to you), then surely it doesn't matter if they decide to screen it 365 days a year?

They have to do what's right for viewers of their channel, end of story.”

Did I say I watch it? Why are you getting so angry
derek500
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Yep, it's doing fantastically compared to everything FOX gets (bar Empire) and despite Lucifer being only 2 episodes, X Files may have just made that a hit considering it got a 2.0 demo for the 2nd episode of Lucifer which for FOX is fantastic.”

BTW Lucifer is on Amazon Prime here in the UK. New episodes on Tuesdays, day after Fox.
Dancc
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Stacey_Barlow:
“Did I say I watch it? Why are you getting so angry”

I'm not remotely. It's just the "overkill" argument has been used against BB/CBB so many times now that I have become intolerant to it. I didn't mean you specifically, but in general. Ultimately summer is mostly repeats and cheap factual on the main channels, so there's always going to be an audience for a channel like Five to go at with a nightly entertainment show. Which is probably why ITV2 is bringing back Love Island.

Also, there's no evidence that it hurts viewing figures in a sustained way having more than one series. Some viewers only watch the January series, and they'll come back next January regardless of whether they watch any of it in the summer.
Stacey_Barlow
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I'm not remotely. It's just the "overkill" argument has been used against BB/CBB so many times now that I have become intolerant to it. I didn't mean you specifically, but in general. Ultimately summer is mostly repeats and cheap factual on the main channels, so there's always going to be an audience for a channel like Five to go at with a nightly entertainment show. Which is probably why ITV2 is bringing back Love Island.

Also, there's no evidence that it hurts viewing figures in a sustained way having more than one series. Some viewers only watch the January series, and they'll come back next January regardless of whether they watch any of it in the summer.”

Fair enough.
hyperstarsponge
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Nobody forces you to watch it, do they?

Since it's on such a low rating insignificant channel (according to you), then surely it doesn't matter if they decide to screen it 365 days a year?

They have to do what's right for viewers of their channel, end of story.”

One of these shows that will do well in 22:00 or 23:00 slot, Don't think that audience would really mind late times.
H of De Vil
06-02-2016
Could how well The X Files has done in the US (and probably UK) suggest the kind of figures we might see for another 90s revival in Cold Feet?

I certainly wouldn't rule out an overnight over 7m for the 1st ep. BOAF managed it.
iaindb
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“Like a lot of Sky One/Living/Atlantic programmes, the overnight rating is poor but the officials are good. The latest episode listed on the BARB website has 1.634m”

Episode 1 of Lucky Man had a consolidated rating of 1.74m of which 1.09m was time-shift. A % gain of 168.80.

Overnights don't really matter to Sky. It's the subscriptions they're most interested in.
iaindb
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Could how well The X Files has done in the US (and probably UK) suggest the kind of figures we might see for another 90s revival in Cold Feet?

I certainly wouldn't rule out an overnight over 7m for the 1st ep. BOAF managed it.”

For a moment there I thought you were suggesting 7m as an overnight for The X Files. Now that would be a moment.
H of De Vil
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“For a moment there I thought you were suggesting 7m as an overnight for The X Files. Now that would be a moment.”

Yes I think if that happened we would all be stunned
DarylDay1991
06-02-2016
I can see The X Files doing slightly better than everyone expects, after all, Channel 5 are promoting it during each and every advert break. Given that 45 million people tune in to the channel at any point during the week for at least 15 minutes, that's quite hefty exposure.
Salv*
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by DarylDay1991:
“I can see The X Files doing slightly better than everyone expects, after all, Channel 5 are promoting it during each and every advert break. Given that 45 million people tune in to the channel at any point during the week for at least 15 minutes, that's quite hefty exposure.”

I guess but nothing really does fantastically for C5 bar the usual. It could surprise us and come back with Dallas premiere ratings, but I doubt it. Anyone think it will? Would be incredible if it did!
Rob1985
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I guess but nothing really does fantastically for C5 bar the usual. It could surprise us and come back with Dallas premiere ratings, but I doubt it. Anyone think it will? Would be incredible if it did!”

I think it's possible...
H of De Vil
06-02-2016
I wonder how The Voice UK will do tonight now the Rugby has arrived. Last year it got 8.7m (39%).

I expect a figure around 6.7m tonight.

Ninja Warrior will be just under 4m with a full clash with TVUK.
Dan R
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I wonder how The Voice UK will do tonight now the Rugby has arrived. Last year it got 8.7m (39%).

I expect a figure around 6.7m tonight.

Ninja Warrior will be just under 4m with a full clash with TVUK.”

It could well be lower than last week due to the clash with Ninja Warrior. I say anywhere between 6.55m and 6.9m though it could be lower! Ninja Warrior will likely drop too but I wouldn't say by an overly huge amount as it had a headstart!
H of De Vil
06-02-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“It could well be lower than last week due to the clash with Ninja Warrior. I say anywhere between 6.55m and 6.9m though it could be lower! Ninja Warrior will likely drop too but I wouldn't say by an overly huge amount as it had a headstart! ”

But BBC News follows the Rugby, and not mny viewers will turn over whilst they're watching BBC News. Its likely TVUk will get a boost
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