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The Ratings Thread (Part 67)
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Straker
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by marke09:
“This sounds interesting for BBC Two Saturday nights starting on the 27th at 9pm

Stag

A group of obnoxious friends struggle to survive the Stag weekend from hell in the Scottish Highlands, in this brand new three-part dark comic thriller.

Ian Telford (Jim Howick) is a 34 year-old secondary school teacher from Eastbourne who doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke, doesn’t eat meat, disapproves of blood sports and knows very few people, if any, who went to private school.

That’s all about to change when he joins the stag weekend of his brother-in-law ‘Johnners’ (Stephen Campbell Moore) and several of his charmless friends, as they embark on a deer hunting adventure in the remote Scottish Highlands organised by best man, Ledge.

However it’s not long before the hunters become the hunted. As the group is brutally eliminated, one ill-equipped, poorly-dressed loud-mouth at a time, their true personalities begin to emerge. Reputations are ruined, friendships are tested, and sordid secrets unearthed as they struggle to survive this stag weekend from hell.

Also stars James Cosmo, JJ Feild, Reece Shearsmith, Pilou Asbaek, Rufus Jones, Amit Shah and Tim Key.

Stag is created and written by Bafta and Golden Globe nominee Jim Field Smith (The Wrong Mans, Episodes) and George Kay (The Tunnel, The Hour) and directed by Jim Field Smith. The executive producers are Myfanwy Moore, Jim Field Smith and George Kay. It is a BBC In-house Comedy production in association with Idiotlamp.”

Or you could just watch Severance instead.
Andy23
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“The Great British Benefits Handout: 1.1m (5.1%)
Bargain-Loving Brits in the Sun: 1.05m (4.9%)”

I wonder how many Radio Times readers watched that line up?

Originally Posted by Dan R:
“"BBC3
19:00-20:00 - BBC Three Has Moved Online: 16.7k (0.1%)
* peak for the night: 37.1k (0.2%) at 22:00"

Those people had a fun evening. ”

Looks like the peak was when loads tuned in for EastEnders

The launch of "W" looks like another example of there being too many UKTV channels with overlapping remits. Nobody has noticed the relaunch as it's just one of many channels on Sky.
cylon6
17-02-2016
Only 60,000 including +1 for Alan Partridge's Mid Morning Matters. The whole of series 2 is already available on Sky On Demand.
dullagj2
17-02-2016
Soap Officials w/c 1st February 2016

Coronation Street

Mon: 8.18m [+820k] / 8.15m [+1.13m]
Wed: 8.06m [+910k]
Fri : 8.36m [+1.2m] / 8.06m [+1.23m]

Avg.: 8.16m [+1.09m]

EastEnders

Mon : 7.92m [+1.06m]
Tue : 7.78m [+1.16m]
Thu : 7.3m [+840k] +476k on BBC3
Fri : 7.64m [+1.2m]

Avg.: 7.66m [+1.07m]

Emmerdale

Mon : 6.79m [+620k]
Tue : 6.81m [+580k]
Wed : ?
Thu : 7.13m [+490k] / 6.95m [+730k]
Fri: ?

Avg.: 6.92m [+605k]

Top 10 Officials w/c 1st February 2016

Code:
1. CALL THE MIDWIFE (SUN 19:59): 10.05m
2. COUNTRYFILE (SUN 18:59): 8.76m
3. SILENT WITNESS (MON 21:01): 8.51m
4. CORONATION STREET (FRI 19:32): 8.36m
5. DEATH IN PARADISE (THU 21:00): 8.14m
6. EASTENDERS (MON 20:01): 7.92m
7. THE GREAT SPORT RELIEF BAKE-OFF (WED 20:00): 7.44m
8. THE VOICE UK (SAT 19:15): 7.41m
9. EMMERDALE (THU 19:00): 7.13m
10. WAR AND PEACE (SUN 20:59) : 7.03m
Figures inc.HD and exc.+1

Source: Barb
Pizzatheaction
17-02-2016
I expect the EastEnders repeat will settle around 100K.

I'm slightly amused at 60K being okay for Alan Partridge because some people have already watched on demand, but 74K is apparently not good for EastEnders despite over 6.5m having already watched it on BBC One.
jlp95bwfc
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by Rob1985:
“Either way, EE shouldn't be behind or level with ED on a Tuesday in February.”

Well you can say that, but what has EE done to earn a position ahead of ED? Nothing from what I can see. ED is pushing it because ED is once again delivering quality episodes. If we're talking about quality, then EE most definitely should be behind ED.
Rob1985
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Well you can say that, but what has EE done to earn a position ahead of ED? Nothing from what I can see. ED is pushing it because ED is once again delivering quality episodes. If we're talking about quality, then EE most definitely should be behind ED.”

Oh I agree ED deserves to be ahead, but EE has always been the #1 or #2 soap, only #3 when ED has a big episode. Now it's becoming the norm.
ftv
17-02-2016
Are You Being Served returns.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/s..._served_5mar16
yorkie100
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Well you can say that, but what has EE done to earn a position ahead of ED? Nothing from what I can see. ED is pushing it because ED is once again delivering quality episodes. If we're talking about quality, then EE most definitely should be behind ED.”

And CS should be behind both of them but unfortunately ratings don't work like that.
Straker
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by ftv:
“Are You Being Served returns.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/s..._served_5mar16”

Now they're scraping the floor underneath the barrel!!
hyperstarsponge
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by Straker:
“Now they're scraping the floor underneath the barrel!!”

Does anyone care through?
H of De Vil
17-02-2016
Looks like last weeks ITV's Tuesday schedule was compatible. This week, many of those viewers who watched It Not Rocket Science were not interested in Heroes and Villains.

Another flop Tuesday for ITV. This day really needs sorting out. Whoever decided to put unkown entertainment show INRS on Tuesday needs their head testing. Its like their asking for viewers to avoid Tuesday.

Look at those stonking numbers and shares for TP and The Chase. Put The Chase at 8pm on Tuesday and give this day some support.
H of De Vil
17-02-2016
Family Guy confirmed for Monday 9pm ITV2.

Beowulf still at 7pm Sunday leading into Churchill's Secret
Oliver_Tomlinso
17-02-2016
Matthew Lewis(Neville longbottom) tweeted this about happy valley...
A staggering 8.6m of you watched #HappyValley last week. That’s mental. Thanks for stopping by. Few more twists in the tale yet… Enjoy x

Is that the official rating? Brilliant start if so...
Score
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Looks like last weeks ITV's Tuesday schedule was compatible. This week, many of those viewers who watched It Not Rocket Science were not interested in Heroes and Villains.

Another flop Tuesday for ITV. This day really needs sorting out. Whoever decided to put unkown entertainment show INRS on Tuesday needs their head testing. Its like their asking for viewers to avoid Tuesday.

Look at those stonking numbers and shares for TP and The Chase. Put The Chase at 8pm on Tuesday and give this day some support.”

Putting The Chase on Tuesdays at 8pm wouldn't be a great idea. It would be its second episode in 3 hours. Overkill.

I'd shift the established Wednesday game shows like Big Star's Little Star to Tuesday and stuff like All Star Family Fortunes. They need to be a bit more imaginative at 7.30pm as well to stop viewers from deserting them after Emmerdale, which would make it easier for the 8pm shows.

With Rocket Science it's difficult to see where it would have worked. Wednesday at 8pm might have been worth a go but to be honest if it could only muster 2.1m I don't think it would have done much anywhere. It certainly isn't a Saturday show though as some have suggested and would have been a very odd fit there.
Steve Williams
17-02-2016
After I mentioned the Radio Times readers' chart this morning I thought I'd dig one out, with the main BARB ratings for that week as well. I thought it might illustrate how it worked, and also get some interesting ratings from 1994 as well. So this is the week of 3rd-9th October 1994. Repeats combined with the first showing, highest rated episodes of the week only.

BBC1
1) EastEnders (Thu/Sun) - 18.73m
2) Neighbours (Mon) - 14.66m
3) Casualty - 12.37m
4) 2 Point 4 Children - 12.22m
5) 999 Lifesavers - 10.22m
6) Birds of a Feather - 8.93m
7) Telly Addicts - 8.89m
8) Crimwatch - 8.54m
9) News (Saturday) - 8.48m
10) Waiting for God - 8.39m

BBC2
1) Red Dwarf - 4.55m
2) The X Files - 4.20m
3) University Challenge - 3.99m
4) Top Gear - 3.73m
5) Mississippi Burning - 3.55m
6) Rab C Nesbitt - 3.46m
7) Star Trek The Next Generation - 3.05m
8) A Feast of Floyd - 2.99m
9) Knowing Me Knowing You (Fri/Sat) - 2,79m
10) The World at War - 2.76m

ITV
1) Coronation Street (Mon/Wed*) - 19.49m
2) You've Been Framed - 15.95m
3) Heartbeat - 15.08m
4) Soldier Soldier - 14.43m
5) The Bill (Tue) - 13.28m
6) Blind Date - 13.24m
7) London's Burning - 13.03m
8) Home and Away (Mon) - 12.78m
9) Emmerdale (Tue/Thu*) - 12.65m
10) Strike It Lucky - 12.41m
* The second day here is the daytime repeat shown in most, but not all, ITV regions

C4
1) The Nick (Mon/Fri) - 6.50m
2) Brookside (Wed/Sat) - 5.78m
3) Self Catering - 3.85m
4) Equinox - 3.67m
5) Fifteen to One (Mon) - 3.61m
6) Drop The Dead Donkey - 3.50m
7) Clive Anderson Talks Back - 2.73m
8) Roseanne - 2.72m
9) Garden Club - 2.49m
10) Babylon 5 - 2.43m

Radio Times Readers Only
1) Coronation Street (Wed/Fri) - 1.36m
2) EastEnders (Thu/Sun) - 1.31m
3) Neighbours (Mon) - 1.13m
4) Taggart - 1.08m
5) Casualty - 1.08m
6) The Bill (Tue) - 1.04m
7) Heartbeat - 1.02m
8) 2 Point 4 Children - 979k
9) Seaforth - 974k
10) Soldier Soldier - 954k

As Radio Times points out, Seaforth, the terrible flop pot-boiling Sunday night BBC1 drama, got 8.2 million nationally, and Radio Times readers were 20% more likely to watch it than the average viewer. You can see it beats London's Burning in the Radio Times chart, even though that got nearly five million more viewers. Meanwhile Taggart was twelfth in the ITV chart, and that's surely one of the most working class dramas ITV had. And later that autumn you see Lovejoy beating Heartbeat which certainly wasn't the case nationally where Heartbeat was miles ahead. So all very different.

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“Radio Times says this about episode 3:
"This episode is the most successful instalment so far. It's one that neatly plays with the show's obsession with urban legends..."”

I don't want to particularly keep banging this drum, but just to point out that in the TV section of Heat this week - which has no listings anymore, just highlights - there are no programmes featured from C5 and its sister channels. They must be biased as well. Another one for Viacom to blacklist.
YouView
17-02-2016
Heroes Reborn managed 341,000 (1.6% share) on 5STAR last night, more than triple the slot average.

Channel 5 must be pleased with that, and I hope it does well to encourage them to invest more in the channel. They have tried all sorts of shows and only a few have been noticed.
H of De Vil
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by Oliver_Tomlinso:
“Matthew Lewis(Neville longbottom) tweeted this about happy valley...
A staggering 8.6m of you watched #HappyValley last week. That’s mental. Thanks for stopping by. Few more twists in the tale yet… Enjoy x

Is that the official rating? Brilliant start if so...”

Fantastic rating. Fully deserved.

Although its way off Broadchurch's 11m. But there's still time yet.
Andy23
17-02-2016
The ratings for the Australian soaps were quite ridiculous there. Did nobody go to work in 1994?

Then of course there was You've been Framed.

Besides those three shows, it's interesting to note which programmes and their 2016 same slot/same genre equivalents have dropped the most in percentage terms.

Dropping 50% seems to be around the average.
H of De Vil
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“Putting The Chase on Tuesdays at 8pm wouldn't be a great idea. It would be its second episode in 3 hours. Overkill.

I'd shift the established Wednesday game shows like Big Star's Little Star to Tuesday and stuff like All Star Family Fortunes. They need to be a bit more imaginative at 7.30pm as well to stop viewers from deserting them after Emmerdale, which would make it easier for the 8pm shows.

With Rocket Science it's difficult to see where it would have worked. Wednesday at 8pm might have been worth a go but to be honest if it could only muster 2.1m I don't think it would have done much anywhere. It certainly isn't a Saturday show though as some have suggested and would have been a very odd fit there.”


But if they did some thing a bit different with The Chase at 8pm, even if they did Celebrity Chase there it would give a bit of suppert to Tuesday. Although I think TUesday is now so weak, viewers just don't see it as a place to visit ITV unless its for BGT and IAC.

Love Your Garden does well here. Why not more shows in a similar vien to this.

Ch4 have managed to find success with nature factual on Tuesday, so hopefully with Klein gone, factual starts to up its game.

Its Not Rocket Science could have been a 30 minute show in between Corrie. Not another flop to fill Tuesday. They need to stop using this day to throw anything that's likely to underperform, it just hits these slots even more to new lows (last night 1.4m inc+1 at 9pm.). If its going to flop, put it at 10.35pm.

Btw, do you have any clue why Planet's Got Talent was recommissioned? Are they trying to build Warwick Davis up as an ITV 'face'? I notice he's part of Takeaway's 'Who Shot Simon Cowell?' as well.


The 7.30pm slot used to show programmes likie Lion Country which did 3.6m+. Why not someing similar?The Kyle Files is not the type of factual that should lead out of Emmerdale. Completely wrong demographic. Keep Jeremy Kyle out of primtime and in daytime.. His brand only cheapens the channel image having him on so often.
Oliver_Tomlinso
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Fantastic rating. Fully deserved.

Although its way off Broadchurch's 11m. But there's still time yet.”

i doubt it will touch 11 million. Broadchurch is a much bigger show, even though i prefer HV...
basdfg
17-02-2016
Surprised happy valley didn't drop as the sound was quite bad last week, and even worse this week. Struggled to catch half of this week (not helped by watching with someone who wouldn't stop moaning through) THe drama as a whole excellent through.
Glenn A
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“The ratings for the Australian soaps were quite ridiculous there. Did nobody go to work in 1994?

Then of course there was You've been Framed.

Besides those three shows, it's interesting to note which programmes and their 2016 same slot/same genre equivalents have dropped the most in percentage terms.

Dropping 50% seems to be around the average.”

I was out of work for eight months that year and where I lived, I'd say about a quarter of people I knew, mostly in the under 30 age group, had no job. Funnily enough, as the economy picked up after 1994, audience figures for Home and Away and Neighbours fell away, with one TV mag I saw at work in 1996 saying they were " struggling" ( today this would be a hit) with 7.5 million viewers. Also the irony value was dying by then, as people realised they were just schedule filler.
Andy23
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“The 7.30pm slot used to show programmes likie Lion Country which did 3.6m+. Why not someing similar?The Kyle Files is not the type of factual that should lead out of Emmerdale. Completely wrong demographic. Keep Jeremy Kyle out of primtime and in daytime.. His brand only cheapens the channel image having him on so often.”

There are 4 of these half hour early prime time slots per week on ITV, that amounts to about 200 slots a year. You are talking about at least 20 different shows, some of which will be animal based.

Therefore they show a range of different shows in those slots over the year, to try and reach as many different people as possible.

Reach is probably something that should be considered more around here, not just the raw number, advertisers will take this into account. It will explain why they keep persisting with lower rating younger skewing stuff, when we all know doubling the commission of Vera and Midsomer would bring in many more viewers in total terms.
marke09
17-02-2016
RTS Journalism awards tonight

Stewart White BBC South East won regional presenter
Julie Etchingham won Network presenter
SKY News won Channel of the Year
SKY News Live at Five won Best Daytime show
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