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Rugby League 2016
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Darren Lethem
29-09-2016
Have to say I thought Keiron Cunningham was very respectful in his interview. I would have being fuming but he handled it very well. Gone up in my estimation.
Gulftastic
30-09-2016
Appalling first half from Hull, and even a great second half couldn't make up for it. Shame really. If they'd have held on, we'd have been certain of a new name on the trophy. As it is, I bet bloody Wigan niggle their way to the title.
grassmarket
01-10-2016
Jesus effing Christ on an actual effing bike!!!!

All of a sudden, out of nothing, one of the greatest moments in RL history.
dazc
01-10-2016
What a match well done Salford heartbreaking for hull kr who said the million pound game was boring
Tribec
01-10-2016
I should never give up on Salford, but the way this season has gone I did Good grief though what will the RFL do now? They did the best to relegate them and it's failed.
Gulftastic
01-10-2016
Astonishing last three minutes from both teams. Salford on their knees, down to the bones of their team, pull out a last three minutes like that.
Hull KR who only had to close a game down that they'd pretty much won.

I love Rugby League!
Darren Lethem
01-10-2016
Awful day today. Hated it. Shocking way to end the season. Both coaches were right. Its a farce of a way to end the season and the game should NOT be treated like a final.

Koukash on the pitch at the end waving a big cheque in front of the Rovers fans. What a *****
dazc
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Awful day today. Hated it. Shocking way to end the season. Both coaches were right. Its a farce of a way to end the season and the game should NOT be treated like a final.

Koukash on the pitch at the end waving a big cheque in front of the Rovers fans. What a *****”

Don't agree hull kr went down because they weren't good enough all season
Darren Lethem
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by dazc:
“Don't agree hull kr went down because they weren't good enough all season”

If they had finished bottom of the SL table I would agree with you, but they didn't so don't agree at all. The team who finish bottom go down. The ones who finish top go up. Its all to suit Sky
Darren Lethem
01-10-2016
Tweet of the day

From Justin Carney - How can you celebrate when you just took someone's mortgage!
....have a look at yourselves RFL
dazc
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Tweet of the day

From Justin Carney - How can you celebrate when you just took someone's mortgage!
....have a look at yourselves RFL”

Okay let's scrap relegation and promotion so the super league remains the same every year Leigh should have been up about 3 years ago they weren't moaning
Darren Lethem
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by dazc:
“Okay let's scrap relegation and promotion so the super league remains the same every year Leigh should have been up about 3 years ago they weren't moaning”

Nobody has said scrap relegation and promotion have they ? Are you choosing to read things into posts ? What we are saying is the way it is done is wrong. Bottom of the table, you go down. Top of the table you go up. It isn't difficult. It should not be celebrated like a final to accommodate Sky. I haven't seen on field trouble like today for a very long time at rugby league, there is no place for it.
Meols
01-10-2016
Presumably you also remonstrated over the fairness of the rules when Hull City were promoted to the Premier League after finishing fourth in the Championship last season?
Darren Lethem
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by Meols:
“Presumably you also remonstrated over the fairness of the rules when Hull City were promoted to the Premier League after finishing fourth in the Championship last season?”

Completely different scenario and you know it. The loser of the play off final doesn't drop a division. They don't go from full time to part time. They stay exactly the same.

When even the coach and captain of the winning side is saying it's a joke then you have to take notice.
Meols
01-10-2016
The views of the Salford captain and coach are totally irrelevant. The rules are known at the start of the season and once your team signs up to the competition they are bound by them.

Its no different whatsoever. There are obviously many more millions of pounds riding on the outcome of the Championship play off.
Darren Lethem
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by Meols:
“The views of the Salford captain and coach are totally irrelevant. The rules are known at the start of the season and once your team signs up to the competition they are bound by them.

Its no different whatsoever. There are obviously many more millions of pounds riding on the outcome of the Championship play off.”

OF course it's different. Sheffield Wednesday didn't lose their place in the division they were in. They didn't have to lay off staff and make people redundant. They didn't win the prize but they didn't lose anything by not winning it. Salford haven't won a million, Rovers have lost it. Nothing at all wrong with promotion and relegation. I'm very happy Leigh have gone up, they should have been promoted years ago but the RFL like gimmicks. If Rovwrs had been relegated from finishing bottom during regular season or even after middle 8s then fair enough. We just don't need this million pound game because nobody wins.

And if I had posted about football you would have been the first person to ask why I am going off topic
Meols
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“OF course it's different. Sheffield Wednesday didn't lose their place in the division they were in. They didn't have to lay off staff and make people redundant. They didn't win the prize but they didn't lose anything by not winning it. Salford haven't won a million, Rovers have lost it. Nothing at all wrong with promotion and relegation. I'm very happy Leigh have gone up, they should have been promoted years ago but the RFL like gimmicks. If Rovwrs had been relegated from finishing bottom during regular season or even after middle 8s then fair enough. We just don't need this million pound game because nobody wins.

And if I had posted about football you would have been the first person to ask why I am going off topic”

Its convenient enough for you to say its different. Your point was bottom you are relegated top you are promoted. So at least be consistent rather than bleating about league position being the be all and end all for one sport yet being less relevant in another.

You've made a proper politicians argument above.
Darren Lethem
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Meols:
“Its convenient enough for you to say its different. Your point was bottom you are relegated top you are promoted. So at least be consistent rather than bleating about league position being the be all and end all for one sport yet being less relevant in another.

You've made a proper politicians argument above.”

No because it's two different sports and two completely different scenarios. If you want my opinion on the play offs then ask me in the football thread. Here we are talking rugby league.
Meols
02-10-2016
So there we have it. League position counts for everything, unless we are talking football.
JBO
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Meols:
“Presumably you also remonstrated over the fairness of the rules when Hull City were promoted to the Premier League after finishing fourth in the Championship last season?”


I certainly f***** did
davethecue
02-10-2016
It's the Grand Final down under this morning and it is being overshadowed by the calls for a similar protest to the black lives matter protest that Colin Kaepernick has encouraged in the NFL:

THE NRL has been dragged into the national anthem protest storm with rugby league greats calling on players not to stand during the national anthem at this year’s NRL grand final.
Indigenous greats of the game have called on indigenous players from the Sharks, Cowboys, Storm and Raiders to stage a protest when Advance Australia Fair is performed before kick-off at the NRL decider to be held at ANZ Stadium on October 2.
It comes after San Francisco 49ers star Colin Kaepernick knelt during the American national anthem in a silent form of protest against oppression of black and other minority communities in the United States.
Rugby League Week has reported NRL greats Larry Corowa and Joe Williams have publicly called on players to “send a powerful message to white Australia”.


http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/the...4df1391b941fcd
Darren Lethem
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Meols:
“So there we have it. League position counts for everything, unless we are talking football.”

This is a rugby league thread. You are so quick at jumping down others throats if they try and take a thread off topic yet you are a master of it.

To stop you being pedantic, I loathe the football play offs too but this is not a play off and a completely different scenario as I've proven.

Yesterday was the first time a SL club has lost it status in this game, after all the post match trouble ( unprecedented at league ) I hope they decide it's the last.

I'll be cheering on Leigh in the SL next year. Hope they can make top 8
Meols
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“This is a rugby league thread. You are so quick at jumping down others throats if they try and take a thread off topic yet you are a master of it.

To stop you being pedantic, I loathe the football play offs too but this is not a play off and a completely different scenario as I've proven.

Yesterday was the first time a SL club has lost it status in this game, after all the post match trouble ( unprecedented at league ) I hope they decide it's the last.

I'll be cheering on Leigh in the SL next year. Hope they can make top 8”

I could hardly open a thread in football specifically to ask what you think about the play off system. Its a perfectly fair question given you are making a specific point complaining about the play off system in Rugby League. There are often discussions in football about rules and procedures relative to other sports so I'd not call it off topic.


I though you were objecting on a matter of principle but we quickly established it to be less objectionable when it suits the team you support, "loathing" comment above notwithstanding.

Probably caught you at a sensitive time given Hull KR's relegation, which makes me pretty unlucky, given I've apparently done it once previously.
Tribec
02-10-2016
The initial idea of the top 8 and qualifiers was fine, but with the play off game involved the RL was hoping that we'd see the 3 SL sides already safe, and the SL side beating the championship side to retain the status quo.

The scenario yesterday I'm sure was the nightmare one, and to be honest I don't like it. The football play offs have grown on me, but some times the outcomes seem unfair, with 6 place going up. It is what it is though, these are so different, and more so in this sport where the players from both teams were staring at losing so much money due to contracts being ripped up, and having to go part time. Look at those that have gone down recently Bradford and London, I'm sure most people felt that the Bulls would come straight back up, but they haven't and don't look likely to either. Plus what's the incentive for say Hull KR to stay full time next season? None, as winning the championship isn't a guarantee of going back up and reclaiming the higher income the Super League offers.

Straight up and down offers that incentive, and is how things were done for years, before the great and good of sport bowed down to the television money. I would say I'm a bit of traditionalist, but where progress can be made for the good of the game then lets do so, but this isn't one to progress the game.


As for the trouble, this is the second instance this season with Salford fans, now I don't know if it were them that started it yesterday, but it isn't something that has blighted the sport over the years, even in the dark days of the 80's. Punish those involved, but don't try and stop the pitch invasions at the end of the game, that's been part and parcel of the game for years, and always was friendly.
tonypennys
02-10-2016
I feel for Hull KR , the million pound game doesn't have a place in our game , for me straight promotion and relegation, Salford lost to 2 championship clubs and yet stayed up , our last 3 seasons we have won the championship P72 W67 D2 L3 yet with that record still had to go to play offs , we have a chairman who put his hand his pocket funding of 500,000 spent 1.4 million to get us in super league, not guaranteed but we learned from last season Hull KR will get 787'000a drop from 1.8 million so a big difference to account for

Viewing figures haven't been that good to for the playoffs and qualifiers
Wigan v Saints 89'000
Saints v Catalan 97'000
Leigh v Salford 80,000
London v Salford 55,000
London v Leeds 75'000
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