http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-...o-much-for-me/
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?
Was Moffat Pushed?
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Originally Posted by oathy:
“http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-...o-much-for-me/
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?”
“http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-...o-much-for-me/
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?”
Why would an article with Matt praising Moffat suggest he was forced to leave?.
So far I've had the impression that he was ready to go some time ago, and stayed on for series 10 as a sort of favour to the show and bbc while they got a new showrunner in place. Nothing in that article to suggest anything different.
Originally Posted by oathy:
“http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-...o-much-for-me/
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?”
“http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-...o-much-for-me/
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?”
In what way?
I think if anything Moffat is 'jumping' a little later than intended....
Originally Posted by oathy:
“http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-...o-much-for-me/
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?”
“http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-...o-much-for-me/
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?”
How on earth do get to 'Moffat was pushed' from these comments? Far from reading too much into innocent comments you are clearly just making your own story up here. And as for Rooks talking about rumours on Twitter.... My cat farts more sense than anything you'd read on Twitter. Get a grip people! Bah....
Originally Posted by Rooks:
“Have a look on Twitter, there's some rumours floating around about this.”
“Have a look on Twitter, there's some rumours floating around about this.”
(Adjusts bow tie, raises 'delicate' eyebrows, slight curl of lip) "Twitter."
From everything I have read, I'm left with the exact opposite impression - that Moffat would have left after the 2015 Christmas special and has only agreed to do one more season because Chibnall cannot start until season 11.
Something doesn't seem right about the various statements from Peter and Steven last year imo - the latter saying he'd asked the BBC for more than what we already got (despite the frequent breaks under him) and then Peter complaining about people asking when he was leaving before...raising the subject of him leaving.
I'd love to know what has really gone on...if we lose Peter I'll be gutted.
Care to share?
I'd love to know what has really gone on...if we lose Peter I'll be gutted.
Originally Posted by Rooks:
“Have a look on Twitter, there's some rumours floating around about this.”
“Have a look on Twitter, there's some rumours floating around about this.”
Care to share?
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“From everything I have read, I'm left with the exact opposite impression - that Moffat would have left after the 2015 Christmas special and has only agreed to do one more season because Chibnall cannot start until season 11.”
“From everything I have read, I'm left with the exact opposite impression - that Moffat would have left after the 2015 Christmas special and has only agreed to do one more season because Chibnall cannot start until season 11.”
Sameeee
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“Why would an article with Matt praising Moffat suggest he was forced to leave?.
So far I've had the impression that he was ready to go some time ago, and stayed on for series 10 as a sort of favour to the show and bbc while they got a new showrunner in place. Nothing in that article to suggest anything different.”
“Why would an article with Matt praising Moffat suggest he was forced to leave?.
So far I've had the impression that he was ready to go some time ago, and stayed on for series 10 as a sort of favour to the show and bbc while they got a new showrunner in place. Nothing in that article to suggest anything different.”
Originally Posted by Michael_Eve:
“In what way?
I think if anything Moffat is 'jumping' a little later than intended....”
“In what way?
I think if anything Moffat is 'jumping' a little later than intended....”
The tone seems much different to when RTD left.
maybe its different because there's the long delay then another series before he leaves,
Originally Posted by oathy:
“The tone seems much different to when RTD left.
maybe its different because there's the long delay then another series before he leaves,”
“The tone seems much different to when RTD left.
maybe its different because there's the long delay then another series before he leaves,”
There was almost two years between RTD announcing he was leaving (May 2008) and Series 5 starting (April 2010) it's not going to be much longer this time (Jan 2016 to probably April 2018).
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“Something doesn't seem right about the various statements from Peter and Steven last year imo - the latter saying he'd asked the BBC for more than what we already got (despite the frequent breaks under him) and then Peter complaining about people asking when he was leaving before...raising the subject of him leaving.
I'd love to know what has really gone on...if we lose Peter I'll be gutted!”
“Something doesn't seem right about the various statements from Peter and Steven last year imo - the latter saying he'd asked the BBC for more than what we already got (despite the frequent breaks under him) and then Peter complaining about people asking when he was leaving before...raising the subject of him leaving.
I'd love to know what has really gone on...if we lose Peter I'll be gutted!”
My guess as to how it's unfolded more or less....
- Moffat was considering when to leave a few years ago, pondering as early as Series 8 if it should be his last. He may have even briefly thought about bowing out alongside Jenna Coleman at the time, though later thought better of it. This is backed up by claims he made whilst promoting Series 8 that he knew he was closer to leaving than joining.
- Moffat signed to do Series 9, and to some level of surprise so did Jenna Coleman. Ultimately Moffat did really consider 2015 to be his final year. He would see Clara out of the show, have one last Christmas special to tell whatever final story he wanted or to wrap up loose ends. He brings back River Song, after encouragement from RTD to do so - something we know to have definitely have happened. It was also previously confirmed that the 2015 Christmas special might have one point been Moffat's final contribution.
- The BBC are aware of Moffat's plans to leave sooner rather than later, and consider their prospects for a successor. There is a chance they may have had a name or two in mind that didn't work out - possibly Toby Whithouse, or someone wholly new. Whether or not this was the case, they did ultimately settle on Chris Chibnall who agreed to take on the role...
- ...however the BBC found themselves in a bit of a tricky situation. They had to show commitment to their own shows outside of Doctor Who, and the ready-to-go Steven Moffat was more keen to get on with Sherlock in 2016. Similarly, proposed successor Chris Chibnall was not available until much later in 2016, possibly early 2017 due to his commitment to Broadchurch. A Chibnall-led series would not be able to see the light of day until late 2017 at the earliest.
- The BBC also notes the issues regarding DW: Series 9's poor scheduling. That broadcasting the show late in the year is proving problematic - putting it up against more needless competition, and sticking it out post-watershed as a result of Strictly getting in the way. This is backed up by a viewer decline that correlates perfectly with the later broadcast times since The Caretaker in Series 8, and to an extent by the far better performance of the Christmas special not just in terms of raw figures but in terms of its relative success on Christmas night. There was a clear need to move the show away from autumn, but there was no way of moving the show forward.
- Faced with a situation where Doctor Who could be off air in 2016 AND 2017 because there is nobody to showrun it, Steven Moffat agrees (somewhat as a fan, somewhat because there was likely a nice sum of money involved) to stay on for one further year to soften the blow to the viewers. His further involvement means that the BBC can shift the show back to the spring schedule of old, resulting in a gap of only half a year more than usual - Series 10 would never have gone out earlier than Autumn 2016 anyway.
- With only a few episodes of Sherlock to produce in 2016, Moffat proposes doing more-than-usual episodes of Doctor Who to satisfy fans and to soften the blow of the gap - this may have transferred into an extended Series 10, or 2016 Specials, there's no way to know. At any rate, it seems that this request was never granted... and given the BBC would want the show to go out in 2016 if it could my guess is that the reason is purely down to either contractual obligations regarding how much Capaldi can work per-series, or down to the BBC having to adhere to a limited drama budget.
- Moffat does Series 10 out of loyalty and as a favour, without having to sacrifice Sherlock. Chibnall gets to do Series 11 straight after, not having to sacrifice Broadchurch. The BBC takes a bit of a hit for no 2016 series but overall a delay to the show of only about half a year - plus one more year of Moffat than they would have been anticipating which to them is a very good thing.
- Peter Capaldi meanwhile will get a well-earned rest in 2016. Whether he decides to bow out with Moffat or continue with Chibnall remains to be seen. Moffat's departure now awkwardly correlates with the unspoken three-series rule which on the previous two occasions has been what led to the departure of the lead. However for now, as much as all of the above is complete speculation on my part, I'd say that Capaldi's own invovlement isn't directly under threat from any of this, none of these actions are down to his involvement and should he decide to unfortunately leave in 2017 then it will very likely be of his own accord.
Originally Posted by nebogipfel:
“That seems about right to me. More or less.”
“That seems about right to me. More or less.”
Yup. And very well articulated, Abomination!
ETA One thing I might've missed. Assuming filming for Spring 2018 begins say Mayish 2017, do we know whether there'll be a Xmas 2017 episode, and will that be Executive produced by SM or CC...or both, maybe?! I might be being dense here. Again.
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“My guess as to how it's unfolded more or less....
- Moffat was considering when to leave a few years ago, pondering as early as Series 8 if it should be his last. He may have even briefly thought about bowing out alongside Jenna Coleman at the time, though later thought better of it. This is backed up by claims he made whilst promoting Series 8 that he knew he was closer to leaving than joining.
- Moffat signed to do Series 9, and to some level of surprise so did Jenna Coleman. Ultimately Moffat did really consider 2015 to be his final year. He would see Clara out of the show, have one last Christmas special to tell whatever final story he wanted or to wrap up loose ends. He brings back River Song, after encouragement from RTD to do so - something we know to have definitely have happened. It was also previously confirmed that the 2015 Christmas special might have one point been Moffat's final contribution.
- The BBC are aware of Moffat's plans to leave sooner rather than later, and consider their prospects for a successor. There is a chance they may have had a name or two in mind that didn't work out - possibly Toby Whithouse, or someone wholly new. Whether or not this was the case, they did ultimately settle on Chris Chibnall who agreed to take on the role...
- ...however the BBC found themselves in a bit of a tricky situation. They had to show commitment to their own shows outside of Doctor Who, and the ready-to-go Steven Moffat was more keen to get on with Sherlock in 2016. Similarly, proposed successor Chris Chibnall was not available until much later in 2016, possibly early 2017 due to his commitment to Broadchurch. A Chibnall-led series would not be able to see the light of day until late 2017 at the earliest.
- The BBC also notes the issues regarding DW: Series 9's poor scheduling. That broadcasting the show late in the year is proving problematic - putting it up against more needless competition, and sticking it out post-watershed as a result of Strictly getting in the way. This is backed up by a viewer decline that correlates perfectly with the later broadcast times since The Caretaker in Series 8, and to an extent by the far better performance of the Christmas special not just in terms of raw figures but in terms of its relative success on Christmas night. There was a clear need to move the show away from autumn, but there was no way of moving the show forward.
- Faced with a situation where Doctor Who could be off air in 2016 AND 2017 because there is nobody to showrun it, Steven Moffat agrees (somewhat as a fan, somewhat because there was likely a nice sum of money involved) to stay on for one further year to soften the blow to the viewers. His further involvement means that the BBC can shift the show back to the spring schedule of old, resulting in a gap of only half a year more than usual - Series 10 would never have gone out earlier than Autumn 2016 anyway.
- With only a few episodes of Sherlock to produce in 2016, Moffat proposes doing more-than-usual episodes of Doctor Who to satisfy fans and to soften the blow of the gap - this may have transferred into an extended Series 10, or 2016 Specials, there's no way to know. At any rate, it seems that this request was never granted... and given the BBC would want the show to go out in 2016 if it could my guess is that the reason is purely down to either contractual obligations regarding how much Capaldi can work per-series, or down to the BBC having to adhere to a limited drama budget.
- Moffat does Series 10 out of loyalty and as a favour, without having to sacrifice Sherlock. Chibnall gets to do Series 11 straight after, not having to sacrifice Broadchurch. The BBC takes a bit of a hit for no 2016 series but overall a delay to the show of only about half a year - plus one more year of Moffat than they would have been anticipating which to them is a very good thing.
- Peter Capaldi meanwhile will get a well-earned rest in 2016. Whether he decides to bow out with Moffat or continue with Chibnall remains to be seen. Moffat's departure now awkwardly correlates with the unspoken three-series rule which on the previous two occasions has been what led to the departure of the lead. However for now, as much as all of the above is complete speculation on my part, I'd say that Capaldi's own invovlement isn't directly under threat from any of this, none of these actions are down to his involvement and should he decide to unfortunately leave in 2017 then it will very likely be of his own accord.”
“My guess as to how it's unfolded more or less....
- Moffat was considering when to leave a few years ago, pondering as early as Series 8 if it should be his last. He may have even briefly thought about bowing out alongside Jenna Coleman at the time, though later thought better of it. This is backed up by claims he made whilst promoting Series 8 that he knew he was closer to leaving than joining.
- Moffat signed to do Series 9, and to some level of surprise so did Jenna Coleman. Ultimately Moffat did really consider 2015 to be his final year. He would see Clara out of the show, have one last Christmas special to tell whatever final story he wanted or to wrap up loose ends. He brings back River Song, after encouragement from RTD to do so - something we know to have definitely have happened. It was also previously confirmed that the 2015 Christmas special might have one point been Moffat's final contribution.
- The BBC are aware of Moffat's plans to leave sooner rather than later, and consider their prospects for a successor. There is a chance they may have had a name or two in mind that didn't work out - possibly Toby Whithouse, or someone wholly new. Whether or not this was the case, they did ultimately settle on Chris Chibnall who agreed to take on the role...
- ...however the BBC found themselves in a bit of a tricky situation. They had to show commitment to their own shows outside of Doctor Who, and the ready-to-go Steven Moffat was more keen to get on with Sherlock in 2016. Similarly, proposed successor Chris Chibnall was not available until much later in 2016, possibly early 2017 due to his commitment to Broadchurch. A Chibnall-led series would not be able to see the light of day until late 2017 at the earliest.
- The BBC also notes the issues regarding DW: Series 9's poor scheduling. That broadcasting the show late in the year is proving problematic - putting it up against more needless competition, and sticking it out post-watershed as a result of Strictly getting in the way. This is backed up by a viewer decline that correlates perfectly with the later broadcast times since The Caretaker in Series 8, and to an extent by the far better performance of the Christmas special not just in terms of raw figures but in terms of its relative success on Christmas night. There was a clear need to move the show away from autumn, but there was no way of moving the show forward.
- Faced with a situation where Doctor Who could be off air in 2016 AND 2017 because there is nobody to showrun it, Steven Moffat agrees (somewhat as a fan, somewhat because there was likely a nice sum of money involved) to stay on for one further year to soften the blow to the viewers. His further involvement means that the BBC can shift the show back to the spring schedule of old, resulting in a gap of only half a year more than usual - Series 10 would never have gone out earlier than Autumn 2016 anyway.
- With only a few episodes of Sherlock to produce in 2016, Moffat proposes doing more-than-usual episodes of Doctor Who to satisfy fans and to soften the blow of the gap - this may have transferred into an extended Series 10, or 2016 Specials, there's no way to know. At any rate, it seems that this request was never granted... and given the BBC would want the show to go out in 2016 if it could my guess is that the reason is purely down to either contractual obligations regarding how much Capaldi can work per-series, or down to the BBC having to adhere to a limited drama budget.
- Moffat does Series 10 out of loyalty and as a favour, without having to sacrifice Sherlock. Chibnall gets to do Series 11 straight after, not having to sacrifice Broadchurch. The BBC takes a bit of a hit for no 2016 series but overall a delay to the show of only about half a year - plus one more year of Moffat than they would have been anticipating which to them is a very good thing.
- Peter Capaldi meanwhile will get a well-earned rest in 2016. Whether he decides to bow out with Moffat or continue with Chibnall remains to be seen. Moffat's departure now awkwardly correlates with the unspoken three-series rule which on the previous two occasions has been what led to the departure of the lead. However for now, as much as all of the above is complete speculation on my part, I'd say that Capaldi's own invovlement isn't directly under threat from any of this, none of these actions are down to his involvement and should he decide to unfortunately leave in 2017 then it will very likely be of his own accord.”
Really good post
Originally Posted by Michael_Eve:
“Yup. And very well articulated, Abomination!
ETA One thing I might've missed. Assuming filming for Spring 2018 begins say Mayish 2017, do we know whether there'll be a Xmas 2017 episode, and will that be Executive produced by SM or CC...or both, maybe?! I might be being dense here. Again.”
“Yup. And very well articulated, Abomination!
ETA One thing I might've missed. Assuming filming for Spring 2018 begins say Mayish 2017, do we know whether there'll be a Xmas 2017 episode, and will that be Executive produced by SM or CC...or both, maybe?! I might be being dense here. Again.
”
The BBC Announcement made no specific mention of Christmas 2017.
It stated that Moffat would hand over the reigns at the end of Series 10 and that Chibnall's first series in charge would debut in 2018.
So either the Christmas Special is counted as part of Series 10 (and Moffat does it), it's done by Chibnall but not mentioned in the Press Release or there's no 2017 Christmas Special.
Given that Moffat will likely finish production of Series 10 in early 2017 (or even very late 2016) it seems unlikely that the 2017 Christmas Special will be part of that filming and even less likely that Moffat would return a few months later to film it.
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“My guess as to how it's unfolded more or less....
- Moffat was considering when to leave a few years ago, pondering as early as Series 8 if it should be his last. He may have even briefly thought about bowing out alongside Jenna Coleman at the time, though later thought better of it. This is backed up by claims he made whilst promoting Series 8 that he knew he was closer to leaving than joining.
- Moffat signed to do Series 9, and to some level of surprise so did Jenna Coleman. Ultimately Moffat did really consider 2015 to be his final year. He would see Clara out of the show, have one last Christmas special to tell whatever final story he wanted or to wrap up loose ends. He brings back River Song, after encouragement from RTD to do so - something we know to have definitely have happened. It was also previously confirmed that the 2015 Christmas special might have one point been Moffat's final contribution.
- The BBC are aware of Moffat's plans to leave sooner rather than later, and consider their prospects for a successor. There is a chance they may have had a name or two in mind that didn't work out - possibly Toby Whithouse, or someone wholly new. Whether or not this was the case, they did ultimately settle on Chris Chibnall who agreed to take on the role...
- ...however the BBC found themselves in a bit of a tricky situation. They had to show commitment to their own shows outside of Doctor Who, and the ready-to-go Steven Moffat was more keen to get on with Sherlock in 2016. Similarly, proposed successor Chris Chibnall was not available until much later in 2016, possibly early 2017 due to his commitment to Broadchurch. A Chibnall-led series would not be able to see the light of day until late 2017 at the earliest.
- The BBC also notes the issues regarding DW: Series 9's poor scheduling. That broadcasting the show late in the year is proving problematic - putting it up against more needless competition, and sticking it out post-watershed as a result of Strictly getting in the way. This is backed up by a viewer decline that correlates perfectly with the later broadcast times since The Caretaker in Series 8, and to an extent by the far better performance of the Christmas special not just in terms of raw figures but in terms of its relative success on Christmas night. There was a clear need to move the show away from autumn, but there was no way of moving the show forward.
- Faced with a situation where Doctor Who could be off air in 2016 AND 2017 because there is nobody to showrun it, Steven Moffat agrees (somewhat as a fan, somewhat because there was likely a nice sum of money involved) to stay on for one further year to soften the blow to the viewers. His further involvement means that the BBC can shift the show back to the spring schedule of old, resulting in a gap of only half a year more than usual - Series 10 would never have gone out earlier than Autumn 2016 anyway.
- With only a few episodes of Sherlock to produce in 2016, Moffat proposes doing more-than-usual episodes of Doctor Who to satisfy fans and to soften the blow of the gap - this may have transferred into an extended Series 10, or 2016 Specials, there's no way to know. At any rate, it seems that this request was never granted... and given the BBC would want the show to go out in 2016 if it could my guess is that the reason is purely down to either contractual obligations regarding how much Capaldi can work per-series, or down to the BBC having to adhere to a limited drama budget.
- Moffat does Series 10 out of loyalty and as a favour, without having to sacrifice Sherlock. Chibnall gets to do Series 11 straight after, not having to sacrifice Broadchurch. The BBC takes a bit of a hit for no 2016 series but overall a delay to the show of only about half a year - plus one more year of Moffat than they would have been anticipating which to them is a very good thing.
- Peter Capaldi meanwhile will get a well-earned rest in 2016. Whether he decides to bow out with Moffat or continue with Chibnall remains to be seen. Moffat's departure now awkwardly correlates with the unspoken three-series rule which on the previous two occasions has been what led to the departure of the lead. However for now, as much as all of the above is complete speculation on my part, I'd say that Capaldi's own invovlement isn't directly under threat from any of this, none of these actions are down to his involvement and should he decide to unfortunately leave in 2017 then it will very likely be of his own accord.”
“My guess as to how it's unfolded more or less....
- Moffat was considering when to leave a few years ago, pondering as early as Series 8 if it should be his last. He may have even briefly thought about bowing out alongside Jenna Coleman at the time, though later thought better of it. This is backed up by claims he made whilst promoting Series 8 that he knew he was closer to leaving than joining.
- Moffat signed to do Series 9, and to some level of surprise so did Jenna Coleman. Ultimately Moffat did really consider 2015 to be his final year. He would see Clara out of the show, have one last Christmas special to tell whatever final story he wanted or to wrap up loose ends. He brings back River Song, after encouragement from RTD to do so - something we know to have definitely have happened. It was also previously confirmed that the 2015 Christmas special might have one point been Moffat's final contribution.
- The BBC are aware of Moffat's plans to leave sooner rather than later, and consider their prospects for a successor. There is a chance they may have had a name or two in mind that didn't work out - possibly Toby Whithouse, or someone wholly new. Whether or not this was the case, they did ultimately settle on Chris Chibnall who agreed to take on the role...
- ...however the BBC found themselves in a bit of a tricky situation. They had to show commitment to their own shows outside of Doctor Who, and the ready-to-go Steven Moffat was more keen to get on with Sherlock in 2016. Similarly, proposed successor Chris Chibnall was not available until much later in 2016, possibly early 2017 due to his commitment to Broadchurch. A Chibnall-led series would not be able to see the light of day until late 2017 at the earliest.
- The BBC also notes the issues regarding DW: Series 9's poor scheduling. That broadcasting the show late in the year is proving problematic - putting it up against more needless competition, and sticking it out post-watershed as a result of Strictly getting in the way. This is backed up by a viewer decline that correlates perfectly with the later broadcast times since The Caretaker in Series 8, and to an extent by the far better performance of the Christmas special not just in terms of raw figures but in terms of its relative success on Christmas night. There was a clear need to move the show away from autumn, but there was no way of moving the show forward.
- Faced with a situation where Doctor Who could be off air in 2016 AND 2017 because there is nobody to showrun it, Steven Moffat agrees (somewhat as a fan, somewhat because there was likely a nice sum of money involved) to stay on for one further year to soften the blow to the viewers. His further involvement means that the BBC can shift the show back to the spring schedule of old, resulting in a gap of only half a year more than usual - Series 10 would never have gone out earlier than Autumn 2016 anyway.
- With only a few episodes of Sherlock to produce in 2016, Moffat proposes doing more-than-usual episodes of Doctor Who to satisfy fans and to soften the blow of the gap - this may have transferred into an extended Series 10, or 2016 Specials, there's no way to know. At any rate, it seems that this request was never granted... and given the BBC would want the show to go out in 2016 if it could my guess is that the reason is purely down to either contractual obligations regarding how much Capaldi can work per-series, or down to the BBC having to adhere to a limited drama budget.
- Moffat does Series 10 out of loyalty and as a favour, without having to sacrifice Sherlock. Chibnall gets to do Series 11 straight after, not having to sacrifice Broadchurch. The BBC takes a bit of a hit for no 2016 series but overall a delay to the show of only about half a year - plus one more year of Moffat than they would have been anticipating which to them is a very good thing.
- Peter Capaldi meanwhile will get a well-earned rest in 2016. Whether he decides to bow out with Moffat or continue with Chibnall remains to be seen. Moffat's departure now awkwardly correlates with the unspoken three-series rule which on the previous two occasions has been what led to the departure of the lead. However for now, as much as all of the above is complete speculation on my part, I'd say that Capaldi's own invovlement isn't directly under threat from any of this, none of these actions are down to his involvement and should he decide to unfortunately leave in 2017 then it will very likely be of his own accord.”
A good summary of what may have occurred.. Now all we have to do is persuade Moffat to write his autobiography err sorry I mean ' fictional novel '! 😁
Backing up what Abomination wrote above there was also this response from Mark Gattis:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...-steven-moffat
It's very obvious to anyone with a brain at this point that Moffat has been persuaded by the BBC to stay on far longer than he had really wished to.
The reason? Look at who they announced as showrunner. They don't have anyone in the same league as Moffat to replace him with. RTD to Moffat was like for like, A list for A list. But that well has run a little dry now.
Moffat really does have a strong loyalty to the show. Such a shame there's a cadre of child-like individuals who cannot shake off this 'baddie' persona they have projected onto him.
I find it faintly laughable that there are some fans who believe the BBC would share their ADHD 'change for change's sake' attitude to the show. With the results he's delivered they would have Moffat there permanently if they could, I have no doubt whatsoever.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...-steven-moffat
It's very obvious to anyone with a brain at this point that Moffat has been persuaded by the BBC to stay on far longer than he had really wished to.
The reason? Look at who they announced as showrunner. They don't have anyone in the same league as Moffat to replace him with. RTD to Moffat was like for like, A list for A list. But that well has run a little dry now.
Moffat really does have a strong loyalty to the show. Such a shame there's a cadre of child-like individuals who cannot shake off this 'baddie' persona they have projected onto him.
I find it faintly laughable that there are some fans who believe the BBC would share their ADHD 'change for change's sake' attitude to the show. With the results he's delivered they would have Moffat there permanently if they could, I have no doubt whatsoever.
Originally Posted by Tom Tit:
“Backing up what Abomination wrote above there was also this response from Mark Gattis:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...-steven-moffat
It's very obvious to anyone with a brain at this point that Moffat has been persuaded by the BBC to stay on far longer than he had really wished to.
The reason? Look at who they announced as showrunner. They don't have anyone in the same league as Moffat to replace him with. RTD to Moffat was like for like, A list for A list. But that well has run a little dry now.
Moffat really does have a strong loyalty to the show. Such a shame there's a cadre of child-like individuals who cannot shake off this 'baddie' persona they have projected onto him.
I find it faintly laughable that there are some fans who believe the BBC would share their ADHD 'change for change's sake' attitude to the show. With the results he's delivered they would have Moffat there permanently if they could, I have no doubt whatsoever.”
“Backing up what Abomination wrote above there was also this response from Mark Gattis:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...-steven-moffat
It's very obvious to anyone with a brain at this point that Moffat has been persuaded by the BBC to stay on far longer than he had really wished to.
The reason? Look at who they announced as showrunner. They don't have anyone in the same league as Moffat to replace him with. RTD to Moffat was like for like, A list for A list. But that well has run a little dry now.
Moffat really does have a strong loyalty to the show. Such a shame there's a cadre of child-like individuals who cannot shake off this 'baddie' persona they have projected onto him.
I find it faintly laughable that there are some fans who believe the BBC would share their ADHD 'change for change's sake' attitude to the show. With the results he's delivered they would have Moffat there permanently if they could, I have no doubt whatsoever.”
Exactly! Look at the continued ridiculous success of Sherlock- not only was it the most viewed drama this Xmas by a mile but worldwide it still seems to be gaining ground...the cinema box office from Asia was unprecedented.
There are just a few sad sacks on Twitter who prefer to write their own narrative (otherwise known as lies), based on nothing more than the fact it makes them happier and fits with the bizarre vision they've created of Moffat as some tyrannical, power hungry monster as opposed to a guy who writes some television, is occasionally a bit sarcastic and is actually quite popular. It's nonsense. It is obvious that Moffat has stayed longer not only than many fans would have wished but than he wanted to. But to admit this might be the case would be to give the guy some credit for showing loyalty to the show and for the unwell and obsessed who view him as Lucifer incarnate this just wont do. Much like the RTD vs Moffat/Capaldi Vs Tennant/Moffat Vs Smith drivel...you can file this away as the product of some very sad minds.
Originally Posted by oathy:
“http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-...o-much-for-me/
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?”
“http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-...o-much-for-me/
Reading these comments from MS. This is a very different tone from when RTD left ?”
Nothing in there that suggests anything of the sort!
The DS headline is misleading tabloid speak anyway
Matt Smith speaks out
When elsewhere the deadline would be
Matt Smith pays tribute
Matt Smith speaks out
When elsewhere the deadline would be
Matt Smith pays tribute
Superb speculation there Abomination 
That would all make perfect sense - the only thing I don't get is why there aren't a couple of specials this year, as I would have thought the BBC and Capaldi would definitely want them, with Moffat possibly being reticent - but he was the one who said he wanted more not less. Guess we'll never know
That would all make perfect sense - the only thing I don't get is why there aren't a couple of specials this year, as I would have thought the BBC and Capaldi would definitely want them, with Moffat possibly being reticent - but he was the one who said he wanted more not less. Guess we'll never know
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