embarrassing for her isn't it
not that she cares

Jack - I was referring there to a previous post where I was "pulled" for making the claim that growth, including bone structure, continues into the mid-20s. I was told that what I described was a "16 year old girl" suggesting such growth is finalising at this point (or shortly after). I then posted scientific evidence that this is not the case and growth continues for ANOTHER 10 YEARS!

Further above, I posted scientific evidence - as based on statistical analysis of MRI brain scans - that the brain neurons go through SIGNIFICANT changes of development up to the MID-20s. Now if you're going to tell me that this does NOT relate to a person's overall brain development (including emotional functioning), then no disrespect, but I would fundamentally disagree with you. Neurons are SIGNIFICANT.

As I said, I'm happy to continue debating the neuroscience and physical science of all this, but I'm sure people will get rather bored!

I DO understand people will have issues and differing opinions as to whether Steph "should" be mature enough at the age of 22 - I GET THAT. But my whole thread was about the FACT that a human being is NOT fully developed at the age of 22.

Now, NOBODY has come back with a logical or scientific argument refuting the EVIDENCE I have posted and I am happy to continue posting.

As usual, people - and I include myself on this at times - jump the gun and decide to get all "insulted" instead of discussing the scientific facts.

The law says she's an adult. Get over it already!

this is all perfectly true-
but what's annoying is that she's using her age as an EXCUSE for being immature.

But Stephanie is not saying "I have emotional issues, I dont want to grow up, and I feel out of my depth (at least not out loud)
She is saying that 23 year olds should be treated in a special way by those who are in their thirties and forties, and should not be treated as equals.

ok-kay
She is fully developed biologically in the brain though
the fact she doesn't demonstrate any emotional intelligence is Stephanies main problem, she has no empathy for others and she lives by me me me me me , what I want I get philosophy
That's why she's done the dirty on her BF !

I have a feeling she will one day be saying "I am only forty-five, and they are two grown women in their sixties intimidating me"

At 7 yrs old you are expected to know right from wrong .

Instead of taking me to task on the FACTS that I am constantly posting on this - in relation also to BRAIN DEVELOPMENT (not just bone structure, that was just in response to one particular comment - so obviously, people are not reading the full thread) - many of you just wish to get all "insulted".

Instead of that approach - please feel free to argue the SCIENTIFIC FACTS and I would be happy to debate that. Which relates DIRECTLY to my OP - i.e. a person is NOT fully developed at 22. End of. Scientific fact

Okay, we get it. So your brain and body aren't 100% completely developed by the age of 22, that makes you not responsible for your actions.

I'm 23, guessing my brain isn't completely, totally, fully developed and I'm not responsible for my actions. Awesome. I'm not going to work tomorrow, I'm sure my boss will understand when I explain I'm not completely emotionally developed enough to take responsibility for my actions.

Actually, where nutrition has previously been compromised people can continue growing physically even past the mid twenties.

But in BB there is no hierarchy according to age, and it is pretty much irrelevant.

Children can be tried for murder at ten years old, yet at 23 they are too young to understand why you shouldn't put shoes on pillows or have the self control to stop themselves.

[QUOTE=momentarything;81241438]Okay, we get it. So your brain and body aren't 100% completely developed by the age of 22, that makes you not responsible for your actions.

I'm 23, guessing my brain isn't completely, totally, fully developed and I'm not responsible for my actions. Awesome I'm not going to work tomorrow, I'm sure my boss will understand when I explain I'm not completely emotionally developed enough to take responsibility for my actions.[/quote]

You'll get yourself out of that bloody bed and go to work or I'll put your knickers on display!

You are beyond ridiculous . I don't know what point you're trying to make, neither do I care .
At 18 you can marry, vote, drive, drink etc etc.

Ps that is 4yr younger then 22 .

You'll get yourself out of that bloody bed and go to work or I'll put your knickers on display![/quote]

But if you accept this to be true then why is not a reasonable excuse for Steph to use? It's like saying you accept that someone who is small for their age and hasn't finished growing can't reach stuff on the top shelf in the supermarket but they should use it as an excuse themselves for why they can't reach the top shelves when they go shopping???

Steph knows she is immature and struggling because of it. Now I personally don't think all her problems are because of her age, I think she has some emotional problems. However, until she grows up a bit more and realises that despite that some of her problems are still there she won't realise it wasn't just her age that caused all her issues in the house.

I promise there's no bird shit in them at least and I didn't leave them on the bathroom floor

Isn't there a science section in which to debate this, or at least general discussion?

Not that I'm opposed to it, but it's not really what I come on the BB forum for, to discuss her skelletal structure and whether it is fully-formed or not

Emotional growth, that's another matter and goes to the heart of what BB is about a lot of the time, as it exposes so many of the housemates to all of us and to themselves. Some find that they are stronger than they think, others not so much. Some learn something about themselves, others - people like Gemma - don't seem to be the type of person to want to learn anything, they don't feel they need to change or grow.

Stephanie's a fully-grown woman age-wise, she's a child emotionally, as many have said. She seems to have some deep-routed issues too and BB is not the place where they could be resolved I would say.

In my own humble opinion, she keeps playing the baby card for many reasons - it makes the others look bad if they argue with her, it enables her to behave in a less than mature fashion, it helps her to convince herself that she's done nothing wrong (she is fully aware that her behaviour is more than questionable, talks about it a lot but seems to then completely forget her problems seconds later in order to receive the instant gratification of Jeremy's adoration).

As some would say, that girl has issues! She's a walking disaster and I do wonder what made her that way (I would think it's more than having been babied).

Our brains continue developing all through our lives, every time you learn something new your brain creates new neural connections. Oh and our noses and ears never stop growing either so. I guess you could say we never grow up and become fully finished adults.

The older I get, the more I realise this is true in many ways. I always thought there'd be a point in your life where you really feel like an adult, but I've spoken to so many people a lot older than me who say they still get a shock sometimes when they look in the mirror and they're not 20 anymore because they feel the same inside, despite having kids and mortgages, the lot.

It's amazing how people take things OUT OF CONTEXT. I never said she was "not responsible" for her own actions. Or that you should not go to work. Where on the thread did I make such a claim? (although don't tell your boss it was down to me! ).

I said a human is NOT fully developed at 22. 90% of people on here have said I was "bizarre" or "wrong" for saying that - all telling me that the human is "fully grown" at this age. I have proved that I was stating facts. You will still be growing on a biological level - including the full formation of your brain SIGNIFICANTLY - for another few years (and possibly longer in some people).

Now, in the CONTEXT of BB and Steph's relation to the other HMs in their 30s/40s (fully developed), I was making the point that it is a very young age and STILL DEVELOPING. And I stand by that. I used the phrase "baby age" IN THAT CONTEXT. It was meant in the sense that, at that young age, there is still much development, especially in terms of emotional and brain functioning.

PS Have a good day a work

I think men remain boys
Women tend to grow up

but even in school you're taught to respect and treat others the way you'd like to be treated, and if that doesn't happen, it's often due to those who are just naturally nasty and enjoy being bitchy and picking on others, often those weaker than them, jealousy or just they are naturally the type to rebel against authority .

Yes, many changes right through our lives.

The funny thing is, Steph expects special treatment because she is young, yet refused to make allowances for older people who needed more sleep, and she continued whooping and shrieking in the bedroom.

I'm a young woman in my head, however chronologically I'm 65