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Aisleyne facing trial after BOTS fight
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spkx
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Avidian:
“http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ther-spat.html



I can't believe it took five months to investigate the incident



Aisleyne claiming the producers set up the row



Why is Jamie East giving evidence?

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It almost certainly didn't take 5 months to investigate, certainly not with all the cameras filming it all, but cases usually take 6 months to progress to trial.
dylan99
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“BB knew it was going to happen - BB wanted Aisleyne to throw a drink over Farrah - she was probably encouraged to do so. They didn't bargain for Farrah to react the way she did.”

that sounds like what she's saying. Was she told to chuck her drink at farah (assault), but as they hadn't told farah, it didn't work to well. It's the only way I could think producers 'set her up'.
nattoyaki
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Robinson1:
“It'll likely be held at St Albans so I'll go ”

Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“OOOOooooooooh lucky you. I'd love to go.

I'd be sat at the front chanting 'Get Farrah out, Gey Farrah out'”



I'm tempted to visit a relative in Herts around then - perhaps with a few of us there we could have a mini rally of support outside for the poor forgotten champagne flutes or something...maybe film it on our phones and do a spoof?:

'10:22 am - the judge is adjusting his wig'
Chihiro77
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Pixeleen:
“From the Sun article...........

"Farrah may even be flown back to the UK from Los Angeles at taxpayers’ expense because a videolink would be at 2am her time."Seriously???

So this is all just a free holiday for Farrah.
Got to hand it to that girl.”

It's the Sun....
Nerd
25-01-2016
The two Americans can take a caution without problem and fly back to the States. Ash may not want a criminal record as it would mean she'd fail CRB checks and not be allowed to work with children etc.
ageappropriate
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Nerd:
“Ash may not want a criminal record as it would mean she'd fail CRB checks and not be allowed to work with children etc.”

Well, she wouldn't exactly be my first choice of babysitter ...
Avidian
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by spkx:
“It almost certainly didn't take 5 months to investigate, certainly not with all the cameras filming it all, but cases usually take 6 months to progress to trial.”

It appeared to be an inordinate amount of probing
Avidian
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Nerd:
“The two Americans can take a caution without problem and fly back to the States. Ash may not want a criminal record as it would mean she'd fail CRB checks and not be allowed to work with children etc.”

Aisleyne was convicted in 2014 for drink driving:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...undraiser.html

As I understand it, a DD will be on a DBS check for a period of 11 years but if she has another conviction both convictions will never be spent.
emptybox
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Avidian:
“http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ther-spat.html

I can't believe it took five months to investigate the incident
”

Especially as the episode of BOTS in question took place on 22nd September i.e only four months ago.
Perhaps Steven Moffat had some part in the investigation?
Avidian
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by emptybox:
“Especially as the episode of BOTS in question took place on 22nd September i.e only four months ago.
Perhaps Steven Moffat had some part in the investigation? ”

Liete
25-01-2016
Must have cost a fortune to go time travelling to investigate this incident.

A complete waste of taxpayer's money.
nattoyaki
25-01-2016
They should have got Detective Dan on the case!
BabelBrook
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“They should have got Detective Dan on the case!”

He'd be conflicted out
Master Ozzy
25-01-2016
A caution remains on your criminal record for 6 years, and will show up if you ever need a CRB/DBS check and also if you ever want to travel to the U.S or Australia then you need to disclose it. You can probably get away with traveling there without disclosing it, however if you are going there for anything work related then you need to get a work visa no matter how long you're going for, and if you have any sort of criminal record then there's no way you'll get it. Farrah and Janice are American anyway so it won't really affect them, however Aisleyne won't be able to go to the U.S or Australia for anything work related if she had accepted the caution (or if she is found guilty in court). I don't even know if she would have any work over there, but it would make sense if this was why she refused to accept the caution.
BabelBrook
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“A caution remains on your criminal record for 6 years, and will show up if you ever need a CRB/DBS check and also if you ever want to travel to the U.S or Australia then you need to disclose it. You can probably get away with traveling there without disclosing it, however if you are going there for anything work related then you need to get a work visa no matter how long you're going for, and if you have any sort of criminal record then there's no way you'll get it. Farrah and Janice are American anyway so it won't really affect them, however Aisleyne won't be able to go to the U.S or Australia for anything work related if she had accepted the caution (or if she is found guilty in court). I don't even know if she would have any work over there, but it would make sense if this was why she refused to accept the caution.”

I thought for Australia it was dependent on the nature of the crime and/or whether there was a custodial sentence.
Purple.
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by dylan99:
“that sounds like what she's saying. Was she told to chuck her drink at farah (assault), but as they hadn't told farah, it didn't work to well. It's the only way I could think producers 'set her up'.”

That doesn't explain her Tweet though, unless she can prove someone 'forced' her to write it.
Master Ozzy
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“I thought for Australia it was dependent on the nature of the crime and/or whether there was a custodial sentence.”

It is for something like a working holiday visa which is what gap year students etc get when they head out there for a year...for that they would only exclude you if you had an actual conviction, and even then they would only know that you had a conviction if you disclosed it, as they don't do any criminal record check...you just tick a yes/no box. You can only get that visa once in your life. For the type of working visa Aisleyne would need though, she'd have to get an actual work visa via the Australian Embassy and they would do a criminal record check...they're very strict in this and any type of criminal record, especially anything within the last five years they would refuse.
secrethousemate
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by emptybox:
“Especially as the episode of BOTS in question took place on 22nd September i.e only four months ago.
Perhaps Steven Moffat had some part in the investigation? ”

They haven't even spent 4 months investigating. They've spent 4 days investigating and the remainder of the 4 months trying to persuade Ash to accept a caution, which she's refusing to do.
BabelBrook
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“It is for something like a working holiday visa which is what gap year students etc get when they head out there for a year...for that they would only exclude you if you had an actual conviction, and even then they would only know that you had a conviction if you disclosed it, as they don't do any criminal record check...you just tick a yes/no box. You can only get that visa once in your life. For the type of working visa Aisleyne would need though, she'd have to get an actual work visa via the Australian Embassy and they would do a criminal record check...they're very strict in this and any type of criminal record, especially anything within the last five years they would refuse.”

Thanks. Oh for the days when we could just send them over and be done with it.
secrethousemate
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“A caution remains on your criminal record for 6 years, and will show up if you ever need a CRB/DBS check and also if you ever want to travel to the U.S or Australia then you need to disclose it. You can probably get away with traveling there without disclosing it, however if you are going there for anything work related then you need to get a work visa no matter how long you're going for, and if you have any sort of criminal record then there's no way you'll get it. Farrah and Janice are American anyway so it won't really affect them, however Aisleyne won't be able to go to the U.S or Australia for anything work related if she had accepted the caution (or if she is found guilty in court). I don't even know if she would have any work over there, but it would make sense if this was why she refused to accept the caution.”

She's got a drink driving conviction but visited USA last year while it was still in force (Las Vegas) - I think she did some modelling while out there, so could be classed as 'work related', I suppose.
JVS
25-01-2016
Aisleyne is a moron, she thought she was being big by starting the fight. Mind you BB plied them all with alcohol to make sure there was some sort of confrontation - they should be fined heavily, too.

I don't quite see how Aisleyne can defend herself, her tweets and the fact that she admitted on Loose Women that she was childish to throw the drink condemn her.
KT_Dog
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by emptybox:
“Especially as the episode of BOTS in question took place on 22nd September i.e only four months ago.
Perhaps Steven Moffat had some part in the investigation? ”

Well that's certainly possible... It does involve badly written female characters afterall.
nattoyaki
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“Well that's certainly possible... It does involve badly written female characters afterall. ”

Moffat's 'strong female characters' only assault the men though
Theo Rose
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by secrethousemate:
“She's got a drink driving conviction but visited USA last year while it was still in force (Las Vegas) - I think she did some modelling while out there, so could be classed as 'work related', I suppose.”

Each case is different but you won't ever be blocked from entering America for ever just for having a caution but you will need to disclose it and they will review it. You would only be refused entry if it was something very serious like a caution for drugs or full on violent assault but even then they would review it and probably grant you a visa providing your record has been clean since. Every case is reviewed individually. Its serious crimes like rape and murder which would stop you getting a visa but they would be full convictions.

Most cautions are for minor offences which is why the police issue then to save court time, and if the caution is a 'without violence' one it would never effect anything. These type of cautions wouldn't even show up on a check. So if anyone has a caution which says 'without violence' at the top you would never need to worry about anything being effected.

I suspect the reason Aisleyne refused a caution is because it would be for violence against a US national therefore could effect the possibility if being granted a work visa in America and as it would appear Ais already has one caution under her belt a second one probably could create some issues.
Pixeleen
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Theo Rose:
“Each case is different but you won't ever be blocked from entering America for ever just for having a caution but you will need to disclose it and they will review it. You would only be refused entry if it was something very serious like a caution for drugs or full on violent assault but even then they would review it and probably grant you a visa providing your record has been clean since. Every case is reviewed individually. Its serious crimes like rape and murder which would stop you getting a visa but they would be full convictions.

Most cautions are for minor offences which is why the police issue then to save court time, and if the caution is a 'without violence' one it would never effect anything. These type of cautions wouldn't even show up on a check. So if anyone has a caution which says 'without violence' at the top you would never need to worry about anything being effected.

I suspect the reason Aisleyne refused a caution is because it would be for violence against a US national therefore could effect the possibility if being granted a work visa in America.”

Not just violence against a US national, it was against America's sweetheart!!!
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