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gemma is being bullied because of her weight
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Theo Rose
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Not really. It's just an insult.

Bullying is something much more sustained and systematic than the odd solitary insult thrown about at flashpoints.”

Laughing at someone being insulted over their appearance IS bullying.

There is intent to cause upset.

So my point stands. Anyone laughing at someone being targeted over their insecurity makes them no better. So anyone who cheered on and openly supported Tiff and Steph calling Gemma a fat smelly **** across these forums is no better than Gemma herself. Its gang mentality and just because you are hiding behind a computer screen doesn't make it any less hurtful. It just makes the person a coward which is what bullies are.

The truth obviously hurts.
kitkat1971
25-01-2016
I've mainly been talking about viewers and whether their comments could be conceived as bullying.

People inside the House, yes referring to her weight is a form of bullying but they are using it as a way of attacking her due to how she has been treating them. So yes, it is a bullying tactic, a weapon but they are not bullying her BECAUSE of her weight. If she had been a nicer person, I very much doubt it would have come up.

Itk4 the same as Gemma and Daniella using her having a boyfriend and carrying on with Jeremy as a way of attacking Steph. They are,'t bullying her because of it, but it is a useful weapon to attack her with. Or Gemma referring to Steph's 'cheap' make up.
mmpfb
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Theo Rose:
“Laughing at someone being insulted over their appearance IS bullying.

There is intent to cause upset.”

Who are you talking about now? Forum members of housemates? Because I don't remember anyone in the house laughing at any of the very occasional 'fat' comments.

If you're talking about forum members then I'm not sure how it can be bullying given that people are making the assumption is that she will not read them. Therefore there is no 'intent to cause upset', just people being loose-lipped. You could say it's inappropriate for many, many reasons, potentially even damaging in a wider context, but it's not bullying. If you're going to make grand statements it's helpful to be quite rigorous in your reasoning.

As for laughing at the fat insults I'll admit I've laughed at a few, but it's generally due to someone being witty, or creative with their wording, or conjuring up absurd imagery. Sure, only a tiny part is childishly due to the taboo nature of mentioning the elephant in the room that we're not supposed to acknowledge (and no, I'm not calling Gemma an elephant) but I have a weakness for all things innapropriate.

Originally Posted by Theo Rose:
“So my point stands. Anyone laughing at someone being targeted over their insecurity makes them no better. So anyone who cheered on Tiff and Steph calling Gemma a fat smelly **** is no better than Gemma herself. Its gang mentality and just because you are hiding behind a computer screen doesn't make it any less hurtful. It just makes the person a coward which is what bullies are.”

BiB - are you talking in general here or is this directed at me? Because I haven't once called Gemma a fat c*** or cheered anyone on for doing so. I haven't even called her a c*** and a c*** she most definitely is.

Furthermore, given that she's made it her USP I'm not sure you can really consider it to be an insecurity of hers. Like someone else pointed out it's her brand.

Originally Posted by Theo Rose:
“The truth obviously hurts.”

Erm...?
itsy bitsy
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Agree with all the above.

She uses her size to physically intimidate people. Like some sort of nightclub bouncer or gangsters moll (love the Don Gemmione name someone has given her) she looms her bulk over her chosen victim and makes sure they feel threatened by her sheer presence.

She has also made a career out of her whole 'Big and Proud' image, even stating she hated getting 'thin' (about a size 18 but claimed to be a 14). Without being the big loud girl, I don't think she'd have been given a chance of fame. She's happy to use her size as a selling point and to her advantage so, as cheap a shot as it is to comment on it, she's the one who has put it out there.

And finally, it's easy to see that she's a bone idle slob who sits on her arse all day and expects the world to revolve around her. So, again, people will judge her for being as big as she is because she's shown herself to be a lazy sloth”

Must admit that when GC followed Daniella out of the room the other day she suddenly came across to me like she was almost Daniella's 'minder'.
sorcha_healy27
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I've mainly been talking about viewers and whether their comments could be conceived as bullying.

People inside the House, yes referring to her weight is a form of bullying but they are using it as a way of attacking her due to how she has been treating them. So yes, it is a bullying tactic, a weapon but they are not bullying her BECAUSE of her weight. If she had been a nicer person, I very much doubt it would have come up.

Itk4 the same as Gemma and Daniella using her having a boyfriend and carrying on with Jeremy as a way of attacking Steph. They are,'t bullying her because of it, but it is a useful weapon to attack her with. Or Gemma referring to Steph's 'cheap' make up.”

This is entirely the point. Totally agree. Let's not forget also Gemma saw nothing in targeting Tiffany over her weight aswell.
kitkat1971
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I think it's more that people don't like her, so they use things they know are hurtful to said person after the fact.

If she was thin and acting like she does, they'd just think of some other hurtful term to call her.”

Exactly, that is what I was trying to say.
nyannie
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“Gemma isn't being bullied about her weight, she is using her weight to bully and intimidate people though.”

Absolutely.. She thinks she knows best - she doesn't. She is selfish, self-absorbed and in the world where Gemma Collins rules.

This is supposed to be Celebrity Big Brother - NOT the Gemma Collins show. I stopped watching the whole show because of her.

This is one of the worst BB's - if not The Worst - ever.
Rhumbatugger
25-01-2016
She's not being bullied at all.

She's being virtually pilloried.

~Except that SHE put herself in the pillory, she's paid extremely handsomely, no one ACTUALLY throws anything at her, she just gets called some names, which she doesn't care about, or only cares about to garner further attention.

She also thinks she looks great up there getting loads of attention, and that she's getting pelted with flowers and admiration and the odd criticism is because people are jealous.

And she'll get MORE attention when she gets out of the pillory she put herself in, and more money.

Bullying is something much, much worse than this money making exercise from a delusional cow who actually sees herself as wonderful.
wotnot
25-01-2016
Bullying isn't calling someone a name once to their face, it certainly isn't calling someone a name behind their back, no matter how many times you repeat it. Bullying is intimidation and harassment, belittling someone and baiting them all of which Gemma has done in the house.
EchoFalls
25-01-2016
I hate the big fat cow. She should have been chucked out after the first walkout but I guess BB buttered her up with Pizza. Fat, lazy mare.
Blondie X
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“She's not being bullied at all.

She's being virtually pilloried.

~Except that SHE put herself in the pillory, she's paid extremely handsomely, no one ACTUALLY throws anything at her, she just gets called some names, which she doesn't care about, or only cares about to garner further attention.

She also thinks she looks great up there getting loads of attention, and that she's getting pelted with flowers and admiration and the odd criticism is because people are jealous.

And she'll get MORE attention when she gets out of the pillory she put herself in, and more money.

Bullying is something much, much worse than this money making exercise from a delusional cow who actually sees herself as wonderful.”

Agree. The word bully is thrown about so much theses days that it's become almost meaningless and it's an insult to real victims of genuine bullying to say that a few cheap shots being thrown at a sorry excuse for a human is anything like bullying.

In my day, there was a saying about sticks and stones which some might be well to recall.

I'm not saying that bullying can't include name calling, of course it can, but it's much, much worse than a few jibes about someones weight, most of which are said out of her earshot anyway
Bella Boffin
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by ageappropriate:
“But she IS fat, it's her brand. Mentioning her morbid obesity isn't bullying, it's a factual observation.”

Totally agree.................fat has become the new elephant in the room.....so to speak....

Lesley Brain
Twinkle toes no
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by big brother 9:
“I don't like gemma, not one bit. In fact I loath her.

And I enjoy a lot of the hate she is getting on here.

One thing I don't like is the weight jibes she is getting.

We know we shouldn't pick on someone because of their colour or sexual orientation so why is it ok to pick on her because of her size?

Sometimes I feel alot of people on ds are full time trolls.

Give it a rest and stop hating on her because she is a bigger girl.......... .hate on her for being a nasty piece of work.”

Ty

Fat cow 😡
Rhumbatugger
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by ageappropriate:
“But she IS fat, it's her brand. Mentioning her morbid obesity isn't bullying, it's a factual observation.”

Absolutely.

She's a version of 'The Fat Lady' in a circus. She PROFITS from it, it's part of her 'act'.

But no one can call her fat

Interesting actually.
rhizo_mania
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“I HATE Gemma because she's a...

Bully
Self Centred
Materialistic
Shit Stirrer
Liar
Machiavellian
Self Absorbed
Lazy
Non Team Player
Greedy
Air of Grandeur
Snob
Arrogant

Her weight doesn't come into it
”

That's pretty heavy.
big brother 9
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“That's pretty heavy.”

That's not big nor is it clever





unlike gemma who IS big and isn't clever.



I feel I've let myself Down.
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