She was vile. Women can be vile you know. That's not sexism by the way. It's a fact. Like men can be vile too. Get over yourself!

Jeremy is just as vile as Steph. He told her about the game to get a reaction and wind her up.

Fortunately the people who comment on YouTube (take a look at the comments on Hozier's video for Take Me To Church to see some really extreme views!) do not represnt the majority of us here or society in general.

The way they roared about Tiffany and that Eastender geeza on the panel being interested in a Tiffany sandwich , they didn't mention the guys so much, except when it was relevant because Megan is interested in one of them

cue Trev !

why? their opinions weren't very different from british people's and public who watches that show on TV is not really different from those who watch it on YT

Tbf I think he did it because he knew that someone would tell her the next morning. Rather manage the bad news than have someone else exacerbate it the next day.

I think Steph gets her criticism as much for her brattish crap with the other HMs as her nonsense with Jeremy.
And with regard to her Jeremy nonsense it's not so much her "cheating" that gets the flack, it's her whining about it.
If she wants to be with her BF stop snogging Jeremy and talking about putting her relationship on the line.
If she want to be with Jeremy, wait a week until your out, end your relationship. Go off with Jeremy. Simple.

I think that too. Jeremy has been good at avoiding fights by being calm and open.

i don't talk about other videos or YT generally, i talk about BB in particular and the public who watch that show is BB fans from other countries who can't watch it on TV and believe me their opinions are not really different from opinions of brits

True. Like with everything, I think it's more complicated than "women are treated this way... men are treated this way", most people are looking at the specific situations and people.

And as for what's posted, I for one as a man do not think a woman is any worse in this situation than a guy, and have posted many times criticising Jeremy. It's certainly not one sided at all with me. I think she was wrong to cheat and I think Jeremy was wrong to get with a girl who was in a relationship, and to be honest, most of the people I've talked with here seem to see it in a similar way. Those who criticise Steph more might not like her for other reasons, as you said.

i did'nt like herwith or without the daley thing

Agree.
It's individual circumstances and there are always complex issues. For me it's never as simple as "I like him and don't like her so I'm going to make my judgements on that basis."

Scotty T and Jeremy were just being 'lads' and having a laugh in getting off with Tiffany, and their behaviour is excused. It was like they were both doing Tiffany a favour in getting off with her because they are obviously both sex gods... Imagine a girl had got off with a guy the day after her guy had left like scotty t did to megan.

Same thing with Casey, Jasmine, and Lee. Lee was an absolute prick. But the women had to take all blame, because 'boys will be boys' Its so boring and predictable. If a woman had done what Lee had, she would have been slated.

Exactly! I made the same point about Stephanie the other day when the reality males were slagging her off on Twitter and was told on here the difference is that Stephanie has a boyfriend. Well................Tiffany doesn't have a boyfriend and guess what, yeah............Tiffany gets vilified on here!

I wasn't on here then, but everywhere else lee was slaughtered for being a prick

Sorry, I wasn't being very clear and made my point very badly. I meant that the people who leave comments on YouTube videos in general, Big Brother specifically, aren't necessarily a good representation of everybody viewing the show (abroad or here), they are just a good representation of the type of people who comment on Big Brother videos (wherever they live)

Just as those shouting and jeering at eviction night don't represent all the viewers, usually the opposite, those commenting on YouTube don't represent all opinions.

As to the opinions of 'brits' ... we all have different ones I hope Other brits don't speak for me and I don't speak for them. That's the same as when people say 'this forum' as if we all have one opinion, when there are so many different ones!

It's swings and roundabouts though. Imagine the uproar if a male housemate was to pull a drunk girls underwear off and try to spy on her in the shower. He'd be removed and called a pervert.

A woman does it and she gets called "entertaining Queen Tiffany".

Yes I do. Apparently it's called 'the girl code'.

Also remember Chantelle and Preston. BB promoted it as the romance of the year and most people wanted it to happen. Hardly anyone gave a crap abut Preston's girlfriend who was publicly humiliated with the help of BB itself.

Perhaps not if she'd been flashing her boobs around previously in the pool for that person's entertainment. We just saw Scotty flashing his dick about in the pool, pulling his pants down, playing around with Tiffany and Jeremy. I may be mis-remembering, but I thought he opened the shower door to her, rather than her pushing her way in and 'spying' on him. He seemed to be relishing every minute!

You're entirely right, but he was intoxicated too. Despite his reputation and character, I still found that awful viewing.

I found it all rather cringey myself, but I also don't think anybody did anything wrong, it just isn't what I'd do myself - but then I'm not them!

You can see it's still alive on this very forum, with the way some people have singled out Tiffany's actions but have seemingly forgotten Scotty T and Jeremy's role.

Hell to yes!!

But Tiffany is allowed to lean in a shower and feel Scotty's Love Pencil but Winston got a warning for just looking at Nancy.. Where's your sexism claim sit now..