Back to the point.

Gemma would like to have a bloke and a baby. She is 35. She is estimating how she can achieve this to chime in with her biological clock and trying to convince herself that this can be done efficiently under a year.

I have heard musings along this line - not quite as blunt - from quite a few women in my time. They feel time is running out but are hoping that the goal is achievable.

If, as I have read tonight, she has had both an abortion and a miscarriage, then I do feel for her.

I understand, I too have heard women concerned about this, although I still fear that biology isn't the best motivation for marriage and reproduction.

Something else seemed to be bothering her, she was worried what people would think about her not being married and having a baby at her age, I don't know why that bothers her. But for sure there is unhappiness and insecurity in there.
I don't like her but I'm beginning to understand her and that understanding may result in pity.

Yes, I thought her concern that people would think that at 35 she was weird not to have reproduced was shallow.

There are all sorts of reasons why a woman wouldn't have a child by that age and that does not mean that she is substandard.

As John pointed out, she has businesses and a media career and that if she really wanted the baby shebang she would have had it.

Gemma appears to want a baby like a designer accessory - maybe to match her vagina

I'm not sure why either. Anyone who would have a problem with that (especially in this day and age) isn't worth knowing in my opinion.

So do I.

That's a good, insightful analysis of how she comes across. And yes, it is sad. But it's the end product of her own lazy, entitled, ungiving, begrudging nature, not the cause. And it's much easier and convenient for her to see herself as the victim since it puts the blame elsewhere and doesn't require anything that might require real effort from her.

She shows no inclination to change her ways despite knowing (and I'm sure she does, deep down) that she herself - her own attitude - is at the root of all her problems. If she wants a different life, then it has to start with her. If she put even a quarter of the energy she expends on being a MonsterDiva into doing something positive to change herself, good things could follow.

The ball's in her court but rather than chasing it, the lazy mare is waiting for it to come to her. Or, more likely, for someone else to fetch it and juggle it and miraculously make all the changes happen without her having to lift a lazy finger.

She's destined for a very discontented and bitter future.

But if you google you'll find pictures of Gemma when she was a teenager and, although not super skinny, she had a perfectly nice figure.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...os-bikini.html

Good post

This maybe true but we have to watch this disgusting person night after night as the producers are obsessed with her. Lucky I recorded the programme and use fast forward to censor her bits. It doesn't leave much to watch.

This maybe true but we have to watch this disgusting person night after night as the producers are obsessed with her. Lucky I recorded the programme and use fast forward to censor her bits. It doesn't leave much to watch.

There's lots of comments, why don't you challenge the ones you don't like with a reasoned debate,

It wouldn't be healthy to carry a baby with the amount of weight she's carrying.

very true .. my mother was a narcissist/sociopath so I am a bit of an expert on the subject .. people like this never change unfortunately ... my mum had everyone at each-others throats even at the age of 90 ... I don't wish anyone harm but I am so glad people can see Gemma for what she really is .. hopefully young girls wont see her as a role model any more .. people need to google the word sociopath because its important to recognise these awful destructive people and not get sucked in by them ..

Absolutely agree

There are support groups for children of narcissist parents. I think she would be an utterly damaging parent to a child. That's a harsh thing to say - I'm well aware of that, but when Tiffany was saying what a good mother she would be, as the child of such a parent myself, I couldn't stop myself hoping she doesn't put a child through what they are destined to experience.

Like when she gave Tiff the shoes within minutes of meeting her.

she can just pretend she's pregnant, she has the bump already

It does...happened to my sis in law when we were out in Leeds once. The ********s actually made a point (once she turned them down, as she was out with her husband) of explaining it all with sniggering grins on their faces. Oddly enough, I don't think they will have pulled at all that night or maybe for a while afterwards given the state they were left in after that.

Theres another variation of it, grab a granny. Not quite as insulting but quite pathetic all the same...

Her age and her weight are against her. Of course plenty of women give birth in their late 30's but she seemed to think she'll get, pregnant straight away. She's so used to getting what she wants but this is one thing she can't demand.

Bashing one out is such an eloquent turn of phrase!

It suits Ms. Collins down to the ground I would say.

In response to a previous poster, her age and weight are the least of her worries. I'd say that having the personality of a viper is more of an issue.