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The Real Marigold Hotel - BBC2 26th Jan 9pm
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chuffnobbler
11-02-2016
A glorious series. Truly uplifting and joyful. I could happily watch more of it. I've always fancied India, and this has just increased the interest.

Jan just seemed lonely.

Miriam Margolyes's partner must be very patient.
Mr Cellophane
11-02-2016
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“A glorious series. Truly uplifting and joyful. I could happily watch more of it. I've always fancied India, and this has just increased the interest.

Jan just seemed lonely.

Miriam Margolyes's partner must be very patient.”


BiB - 'Ain't that the truth!

It does indeed look like a terrific place to visit, but my not very robust constitution couldn't cope with living there full time.
Peachykeen
11-02-2016
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“A glorious series. Truly uplifting and joyful. I could happily watch more of it. I've always fancied India, and this has just increased the interest.

Jan just seemed lonely.

Miriam Margolyes's partner must be very patient.”

Totally agree.

Shame it was only for 3 episodes.

Really enjoyed the whole crew but agreed it was a shame there wasn't much focus on Roy, Sylvester and Patti.
dekaf
11-02-2016
Originally Posted by Peachykeen:
“Totally agree.

Shame it was only for 3 episodes.

Really enjoyed the whole crew but agreed it was a shame there wasn't much focus on Roy, Sylvester and Patti.”

Me too. Wonderful programme.
johnny_t
12-02-2016
Just finished watching it tonight and I did enjoy the series, but.....

It really could have been made by the 'Retirement in India' tourist board. Everything was about niceness, serenity, spirituality, cheap cost of living etc. and it made living in India look like a no-brainer.

We didn't see any beggars following you for hours at a time, we didn't see it being like living on a rubbish tip for miles in any direction, people pissing and shitting up any vertical surface, wrapped up bodies by the roadside. Everyone bothering you for money and trying to rip you off.

It was a bit like one of these programmes that makes out you can break down somewhere in rural France and the whole village turns out to bring you bread, wine and cheese. Whilst some moustachioed mechanics in blue boiler suits mend your car for nothing before offering you a bed for the night.

India's interesting, and everyoen should see it, but I don't think the reality of moving there will be anything like what was shown.


ETA: One thing that I did enjoy about it was that the people selection was just a bunch of nice, normal people. It stayed all about their experience in India (apart from maybe Jan going on a bit about being the world's loneliest woman) and wasn't about who would have an argument with who, fallings out, etc.
Satnavvy
12-02-2016
Undoubtedly there were rose tinted specs at work, but it warmed my heart for a few cold evenings in January and February! Delightful programme.
Mr Cellophane
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_t:
“Just finished watching it tonight and I did enjoy the series, but.....

It really could have been made by the 'Retirement in India' tourist board. Everything was about niceness, serenity, spirituality, cheap cost of living etc. and it made living in India look like a no-brainer.

We didn't see any beggars following you for hours at a time, we didn't see it being like living on a rubbish tip for miles in any direction, people pissing and shitting up any vertical surface, wrapped up bodies by the roadside. Everyone bothering you for money and trying to rip you off.

It was a bit like one of these programmes that makes out you can break down somewhere in rural France and the whole village turns out to bring you bread, wine and cheese. Whilst some moustachioed mechanics in blue boiler suits mend your car for nothing before offering you a bed for the night.

India's interesting, and everyoen should see it, but I don't think the reality of moving there will be anything like what was shown.”


Yes, I imagine you are right, but the programme that was made was very enjoyable to watch, whereas the one showing the begging, unsanitary behaviour etc. would have been..... less so.
Faust
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_t:
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It was a bit like one of these programmes that makes out you can break down somewhere in rural France and the whole village turns out to bring you bread, wine and cheese. Whilst some moustachioed mechanics in blue boiler suits mend your car for nothing before offering you a bed for the night.
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You've just described the village where our little bolt hole in France is situated - I can't recall seeing you there though?
johnny_t
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Cellophane:
“Yes, I imagine you are right, but the programme that was made was very enjoyable to watch, whereas the one showing the begging, unsanitary behaviour etc. would have been..... less so.”

Yes, you're right too. It was a nice change to watch a nice programme about nice people.
johnny_t
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by Faust:
“You've just described the village where our little bolt hole in France is situated - I can't recall seeing you there though? ”

I was the guy in a broken down car. A load of surly teens ignored me, whilst the woman in the Creperie made out like she couldn't understand me when I pronounced 'Nootella' as 'Noutella'...
Peachykeen
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_t:
“It really could have been made by the 'Retirement in India' tourist board. Everything was about niceness, serenity, spirituality, cheap cost of living etc. and it made living in India look like a no-brainer.

We didn't see any beggars following you for hours at a time, we didn't see it being like living on a rubbish tip for miles in any direction, people pissing and shitting up any vertical surface, wrapped up bodies by the roadside. Everyone bothering you for money and trying to rip you off.

India's interesting, and everyoen should see it, but I don't think the reality of moving there will be anything like what was shown.
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I agree with the above but I don't think that's what the programme was about.

I have spent time in India and my favourite part was Jaipur/Rajasthan. Rajasthan is very pretty.

There is an awful lot of poverty in India and some very unsanitary practices but if you have the funds it is very easy to not see any of that. Most of the beggars I saw were near tourist areas as thats were the money is. Mumbai was pretty grim but again, it comes down to money. If you have it you can live like a King out there.
niceguy1966
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Cellophane:
“Yes, I imagine you are right, but the programme that was made was very enjoyable to watch, whereas the one showing the begging, unsanitary behaviour etc. would have been..... less so.”

Bodies being carried around on stretchers and burnt in public was hardly the "highlights of India".
Anne_Cameron
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_t:
“I was the guy in a broken down car. A load of surly teens ignored me, whilst the woman in the Creperie made out like she couldn't understand me when I pronounced 'Nootella' as 'Noutella'... ”


That made me laugh out loud!! Fond memories of visits to France methinks!
abigail1234
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_t:
“Just finished watching it tonight and I did enjoy the series, but.....

It really could have been made by the 'Retirement in India' tourist board. Everything was about niceness, serenity, spirituality, cheap cost of living etc. and it made living in India look like a no-brainer.

We didn't see any beggars following you for hours at a time, we didn't see it being like living on a rubbish tip for miles in any direction, people pissing and shitting up any vertical surface, wrapped up bodies by the roadside. Everyone bothering you for money and trying to rip you off.

It was a bit like one of these programmes that makes out you can break down somewhere in rural France and the whole village turns out to bring you bread, wine and cheese. Whilst some moustachioed mechanics in blue boiler suits mend your car for nothing before offering you a bed for the night.

India's interesting, and everyoen should see it, but I don't think the reality of moving there will be anything like what was shown.


ETA: One thing that I did enjoy about it was that the people selection was just a bunch of nice, normal people. It stayed all about their experience in India (apart from maybe Jan going on a bit about being the world's loneliest woman) and wasn't about who would have an argument with who, fallings out, etc.”

I did think it was all somewhat romanticised and sanitised - there seemed to be no negatives whatsoever. Like others I'd loved to have seen and heard more from Sylvester McCoy who seems a well-travelled and articulate person - I'm sure he had a lot more interesting things to say. Maybe he wasn't as good television as the others: the same with the other two who were left in the shadows.

I enjoyed it immensely despite what I felt was a lack of balance although I appreciate others' comments: that you can live in India without seeing the poverty and beggars.

They were a great mix of people and like johnny, I loved how it was about their experiences and not falling out, etc - it wasn't, thank goodness, a version of Big Brother!
andy1231
13-02-2016
My wife and I enjoyed this short series too. However we got the impression that the only person who didn't really seem to enjoy himself was Roy Walker. Would love to know which if any of them have gone back or are making plans to do so.
DiamondDoll
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by Lucytash:
“Absolutely agree with you! Most watchable reality program for years IMO.
I thought that Roy's mention about his wife's death was really moving!”

Originally Posted by Virgin Queen:
“A lovely (too short) series. For a fleeting second, I thought maybe I could retire to India but the heat and the lack of flush toilets just wouldn't make that possible.

Very interesting to see these well known faces as real people. Miriam is a natural comic and I found that I warmed to Wayne. I agree about Jan Leeming being a very needy person. I think she needs to be very careful about falling in so readily with new 'friends'.

I do hope this isn't the last we've seen of The Real Marigold Hotel.”

Originally Posted by Peachykeen:
“Totally agree.

Shame it was only for 3 episodes.

Really enjoyed the whole crew but agreed it was a shame there wasn't much focus on Roy, Sylvester and Patti.”

I agree with you guys.
I loved it and wanted it to be longer.
Great series which showcased BBC at its very best.
Peachykeen
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by andy1231:
“My wife and I enjoyed this short series too. However we got the impression that the only person who didn't really seem to enjoy himself was Roy Walker. Would love to know which if any of them have gone back or are making plans to do so.”

I was expecting a little bit at the end giving an update. 'Bobby and his wife decided against a move to India ...' , 'Jan booked to go back for 3 months...' etc

I was very surprised there was nothing at all.
Nesta Robbins
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by andy1231:
“Would love to know which if any of them have gone back or are making plans to do so.”

Well Rosemary was certainly stunned she possessed the ability to meditate, but perhaps not enough to do more than join a class down the road! Jan on the other hand fell in love with the idea, but I wonder once home if she'll struggle to get past her own insecurities and hurdles to find the courage to go for it - especially on her own! The one person who I genuinely believed would give it serious consideration was Wayne. The experience had a profound effect on him and having had his health scare, he was coming at it more from a - why not, I've got nothing to lose, point of view.
Mutter
13-02-2016
I love programmes on India, but can't agree with my fellow posters that it should have lasted longer. Three participants were left out mostly due I wonder because they had nothing positive to say? So maybe it was a sponsored "Retire to India campaign."

I far preferred the Indian Railway series, and Guy Martin's series was a real eye opener. Turned me off ever to visit when he said 70% of all Indians crap in the street. He showed a television advert "Don't Poo, Use the Loo." (I cook my own Indian food now.)!

Mentioning the purchase price of housing was misleading too. I was watching a programme on India years back when they said it was the fastest growing economy in the world and I thought, I'll have some of that.
No you won't as only available to Indians. Although of course Indian, Chinese, Russian and any other nationality may purchase property in UK, forcing the prices up and driving hard working British on minimum wage out.

I don't believe any one of the participants would consider retiring to India. Jan Leeming for one spends time in South Africa and Australia.

Bobby was just tagging on his missus for a free holiday.

Rosemary would hardly spend time there when she's set up a new business in the UK.

Wayne might possibly go into retreat with his partner for a week.

As for the other three, who knows as the programme decided to ignore them.

No sorry, not they who were taken for a ride, but us!
Mutter
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by Nesta Robbins:
“Well Rosemary was certainly stunned she possessed the ability to meditate, but perhaps not enough to do more than join a class down the road! Jan on the other hand fell in love with the idea, but I wonder once home if she'll struggle to get past her own insecurities and hurdles to find the courage to go for it - especially on her own! The one person who I genuinely believed would give it serious consideration was Wayne. The experience had a profound effect on him and having had his health scare, he was coming at it more from a - why not, I've got nothing to lose, point of view.”

Not saying you were fooled, but you were. Celebs on a freebie to India. See them all eating egg on toast? Not a spice in sight!
ricardoylucia
13-02-2016
Just caught up with the last episode. Was interesting in a sarcastic way - fed up with seeing Jan, Rosemary, Wayne and Miriam. Felt sorry for Roy Walker, as he appeared not to enjoyed himself too much and where was Patti Boulaye all the time - hardly saw her.

Glad it is over - had to see all episodes , could have been much better, but wish it was a programme, titled 'Retirement in Ireland' or some other country. It was just a jolly 3 week holiday.
Nesta Robbins
13-02-2016
It was simply a reality show, but I do think it genuinely surprised a couple of them. I agree with you Mutter, that Wayne was the only one who might give it a try if his partner was up for it and yes, of course you'd try a quick holiday first.

This is the Hindustan Times' take on the programme.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/...v6k36ScyL.html
Mutter
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by Nesta Robbins:
“It was simply a reality show, but I do think it genuinely surprised a couple of them. I agree with you Mutter, that Wayne was the only one who might give it a try if his partner was up for it and yes, of course you'd try a quick holiday first.

This is the Hindustan Times' take on the programme.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/...v6k36ScyL.html”

Thanks for the link Nesta.
All of the participants in the programme are well set up for their retirement. To think any one of them may retire to India is laughable and laughing at us who believe they might. Bobby George got the best deal, shipping in his wife for a free holiday.
shanders
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by Peachykeen:
“I was expecting a little bit at the end giving an update. 'Bobby and his wife decided against a move to India ...' , 'Jan booked to go back for 3 months...' etc

I was very surprised there was nothing at all.”

Me too. I was convinced there'd be a caption at the end updating who'd gone back.

Miriam didn't appear to be there the day they did the elephant safari.
valkay
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by shanders:
“Me too. I was convinced there'd be a caption at the end updating who'd gone back.

Miriam didn't appear to be there the day they did the elephant safari.”

She was, she said I hope it can hold my weight.
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