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Darren and Gemma have John issues (Video)
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Darcyprincess
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“They are, without saying the N word, very sly. ”

Without a doubt, they don't know if this task has anything to do with noms so with John taken out for the task he is making sure that Gemma still has his back over John nominating him and to make sure she still dislikes him. Darren is a real sneak, he knows how many times John has been up, heard the boos but still not gone, so he obviously finds him a threat. I find nothing interesting about Darren at all and after some of the things he has done over the years and how he has treated women John nominating him the once is nothing.

Plus bringing up his father dying last night to Gillian he was yet again looking for sympathy from her, just in case he thinks she might have something to do with nominations this week. I think Darren thinks that by playing Mr nice guy and constantly looking for sympathy will gain him the win. He is such a bore and very sly!
jeanoj
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“From what I remember of Johns nomination of Darren he said that Darren had started smoking again in there and made it sound like he was worried Darren was on a slippery slope. Darren takes his sobriety very seriously as he should and I don't think John could have said anything worse to him. It may sound like Darren can't let it go but it's obviously hit at the core of him and may be very difficult for him to forgive. Darren may be boring but John struck a very low blow with his comments and he may find he has damaged their friendship beyond repair.”

So good you posted it twice
Darcyprincess
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“they'd worked together before BB , so they had a friendship prior to the House
that's why it knocked Darren back the way it did. They were in the box together too where Darren talked to John about his past and addictions, so John knew about his struggles.”

I still think John done the nomination out of the friendship personally. He was genuinely worried about Darren at the time because he does know him and his addictive nature, especially as he has worked with him. I think that because Darren had started smoking again and was really stressed with all the arguments he was concerned and worried for him that it would be the drink next and was on a slippery slope.

When John explained his nomination to Darren, John was nearly in tears so I do think he done it out of friendship. Plus the other night in truth or dare Darren was asked if he had cheated on his wife and I noticed John covered his eyes, I think John knows a lot more about Darren than anybody realises.
trevor tiger
27-01-2016
I actually think John's nomination of Darren was really bad and not just for the reason as that was just stupid but because they had declared their friendship and I believe Darren when he said he would have never have nominated him. I think this is what rankles with Darren maybe more than the reason given. However the reason given was a God send for him as he can use this in his favour and to hold against John so easily and so well.

From John's point of view I can only think it was a genuine and honest reason because as part of any game plan or strategy it really stinks. Unless he thought it would be damaging to Darren's reputation and maybe his psyche in the house. I do keep hoping John is this amazing Machiavellian character like Megan and Tiff seem to think I'd really love him then

Darren's problem now is that we're bored of it but he won't shut up about it. As an aside how come no one has accused him of being up Gemma's arse like they do Dani and Tiff That deserves a thread of it's own
johartuk
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“From what I remember of Johns nomination of Darren he said that Darren had started smoking again in there and made it sound like he was worried Darren was on a slippery slope. Darren takes his sobriety very seriously as he should and I don't think John could have said anything worse to him. It may sound like Darren can't let it go but it's obviously hit at the core of him and may be very difficult for him to forgive. Darren may be boring but John struck a very low blow with his comments and he may find he has damaged their friendship beyond repair.”

Surely that's Darren's problem, though, not John's. I thought John's reason for the nom made more sense than some of the daft reasons HMs have given during noms. I don't think it was meant nastily or sneakily, but Darren seems to be so damn paranoid and obsessed with his sobriety (it seems to be his only topic of conversation) that he sees it as some evil plot by John!

A wise response from Darren would have been to prove John wrong by giving up smoking, but he'd rather play the victim (while continuing to smoke).
Skyrah
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“Gemma should give it a rest telling Darren to speak out about it
stirring again with that evil grin of hers

Darren said he was 'tight' with John, so i understand why he felt it was all a knock back he really hadn't expected and it's left a mark on Darren, he shouldn't speak to Gemma about it , that is a misjudgement. Another friendship blown away in the BB house, not unusual.”

another reason why I dislike Darren now. He seems to think Gemma walks on water & he believes Gemma has his back, which she doesn't, just self serving.
moonlily
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Maybe BB should start relaying some of the 'who said what' stuff into the house.

Actually I really hate that but ........that'd be a good one if the situation arises again.

I really like John - on the other hand I can see why others find him irritating. I don't see him as controlling or manipulative but he is decisive, assertive and very purposeful. I actually think his 'strong' attitude has stopped the house from descending into a complete and utter pig sty of doom and gloom.”

I also wonder if John would really like to leave anyway. He did BB to get money for his mum's care, a selfless and admirable act imo . Knowing what it's like to watch a loved one suffer from Alzheimer's , I worry about his mind set, but then again he is hopefully quite detached from them all in the house.

How he bites his tongue having to live with a load of selfish spoilt brats is quite beyond me.
Skyrah
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by moonlily:
“I also wonder if John would really like to leave anyway. He did BB to get money for his mum's care, a selfless and admirable act imo . Knowing what it's like to watch a loved one suffer from Alzheimer's , I worry about his mind set, but then again he is hopefully quite detached from them all in the house.

How he bites his tongue having to live with a load of selfish spoilt brats is quite beyond me.”

Of course John would love to be in the Final, but he won't be heartbroken if he isn't as he's got a busy schedule awaiting him when he gets out. He'll be rehearsing for Chicago 2016 UK Tour which starts Friday 12th February
Sasparella
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by moonlily:
“I also wonder if John would really like to leave anyway. He did BB to get money for his mum's care, a selfless and admirable act imo . Knowing what it's like to watch a loved one suffer from Alzheimer's , I worry about his mind set, but then again he is hopefully quite detached from them all in the house.

How he bites his tongue having to live with a load of selfish spoilt brats is quite beyond me.”

True, I don't think he cares if he stays or goes, he has the money to pay for his mother's care now, and if he goes then he goes back to his mother and husband and gets out of that toxic place with all the selfish, self absorbed idiots that are in there.
Darcyprincess
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I actually think John's nomination of Darren was really bad and not just for the reason as that was just stupid but because they had declared their friendship and I believe Darren when he said he would have never have nominated him. I think this is what rankles with Darren maybe more than the reason given. However the reason given was a God send for him as he can use this in his favour and to hold against John so easily and so well.

From John's point of view I can only think it was a genuine and honest reason because as part of any game plan or strategy it really stinks. Unless he thought it would be damaging to Darren's reputation and maybe his psyche in the house. I do keep hoping John is this amazing Machiavellian character like Megan and Tiff seem to think I'd really love him then

Darren's problem now is that we're bored of it but he won't shut up about it. As an aside how come no one has accused him of being up Gemma's arse like they do Dani and Tiff That deserves a thread of it's own ”

I have, I am sick of him constantly kissing Gemma on the cheek, like when she wanted the blow dry and everybody else would lose the hot water and electrical gear for the day! Both Daniella and Darren constantly blow hot air up Gemma's backside and she can do no wrong, just to keep an alliance against the others. Darren is nothing but a wimp and he's totally spineless. He try's to play Mr nice guy and fly under the radar just to win the show but he doesn't fool me. John nominating him for his own good is nothing compared to some of the things he done over the years and how badly he treated women!
erin_p
27-01-2016
Gemma just can't help herself with the bitching...she must be on the mend after her short ...very short illness. Darren hearing the boos for John is back on his case, Darren is not the brightest can he not realise that John is being booed every eviction, but saved by the public vote.
Darcyprincess
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“True, I don't think he cares if he stays or goes, he has the money to pay for his mother's care now, and if he goes then he goes back to his mother and husband and gets out of that toxic place with all the selfish, self absorbed idiots that are in there.”

Exactly this, but I do feel after getting this far now he would like to be in the final. I like John because I feel what you see is what you get. Yes he might come over as a little arrogant at times but he can be very nice, kind and good fun and I would like to see more of the old John before he leaves rather than pandering to all the self absorbed idiots like you say!
Darcyprincess
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Of course John would love to be in the Final, but he won't be heartbroken if he isn't as he's got a busy schedule awaiting him when he gets out. He'll be rehearsing for Chicago 2016 UK Tour which starts Friday 12th February ”

Yes alongside Hayley Tammaden. At least he's a celeb in his own right and not just a reality star!
Skyrah
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Yes alongside Hayley Tammaden. At least he's a celeb in his own right and not just a reality star!”

uh huh

John Partridge as ‘Billy Flynn’
Hayley Tamaddon as ‘Roxie Hart’
Sam Bailey as ‘Mama Morton'

John Partridge is probably best known for playing the role of Christian Clarke in EastEnders.
His many musical theatre credits include...
Rum Tum Tugger in Cats in the West End, on tour and the official film of the show,
John in Miss Saigon on the first UK national tour
Zach in A Chorus Line at the London Palladium
John was also a judge on BBC1’s Over the Rainbow, Andrew Lloyd Webber’s search to find a Dorothy for the musical The Wizard of Oz.

A True Celeb
Cranberryapple
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by linmic:
“ Gemma reiki'd them all out.”

She's done more than that, she's pissed them all off but they won't say it

Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“Gemma should give it a rest telling Darren to speak out about it
stirring again with that evil grin of hers

Darren said he was 'tight' with John, so i understand why he felt it was all a knock back he really hadn't expected and it's left a mark on Darren, he shouldn't speak to Gemma about it , that is a misjudgement. Another friendship blown away in the BB house, not unusual.”

Yes, she really does love shit stirring.

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I actually think John's nomination of Darren was really bad and not just for the reason as that was just stupid but because they had declared their friendship and I believe Darren when he said he would have never have nominated him. I think this is what rankles with Darren maybe more than the reason given. However the reason given was a God send for him as he can use this in his favour and to hold against John so easily and so well.

From John's point of view I can only think it was a genuine and honest reason because as part of any game plan or strategy it really stinks. Unless he thought it would be damaging to Darren's reputation and maybe his psyche in the house. I do keep hoping John is this amazing Machiavellian character like Megan and Tiff seem to think I'd really love him then

Darren's problem now is that we're bored of it but he won't shut up about it. As an aside how come no one has accused him of being up Gemma's arse like they do Dani and Tiff That deserves a thread of it's own ”

Agree 100%.
Sasparella
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Exactly this, but I do feel after getting this far now he would like to be in the final. I like John because I feel what you see is what you get. Yes he might come over as a little arrogant at times but he can be very nice, kind and good fun and I would like to see more of the old John before he leaves rather than pandering to all the self absorbed idiots like you say!”

I would too, since David (my original winner) left I'd like him to win, but I doubt that he will with all the kids voting for Scotty T who has done nothing in the house. However, if he does go then at least it means that I don't have to watch the rest of it !
zabe
27-01-2016
Darren...For God's Sake......let it go. I felt for you when you were nominated but that was eons ago. Since then you have nominated John, bitched about him behind his back, under the guise of "how much he hurt you". You have done deals with Tiff and Gemma basically to "have your back..........Enough NOW!

If you are a 47yr old guy married and with children.....act like one and start to behave like a man instead of a whinging moaning reality queen!
BabelBrook
27-01-2016
John has known Darren a long time through his bad times and his good and doesn't seem to hold any of that against him. Sometimes good friends do things that pee you off but if there is real friendship you get past it. Darren's continual sniping says far more about his relationship to John than vice versa. Gemma of course hasn't helped continually dripping poison in Darren's ear after the nomination.
Sasparella
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“John has known Darren a long time through his bad times and his good and doesn't seem to hold any of that against him. Sometimes good friends do things that pee you off but if there is real friendship you get past it. Darren's continual sniping says far more about his relationship to John than vice versa. Gemma of course hasn't helped continually dripping poison in Darren's ear after the nomination.”

You're right on both points.
Skyrah
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“John has known Darren a long time through his bad times and his good and doesn't seem to hold any of that against him. Sometimes good friends do things that pee you off but if there is real friendship you get past it. Darren's continual sniping says far more about his relationship to John than vice versa. Gemma of course hasn't helped continually dripping poison in Darren's ear after the nomination.”

***Applause***
Rhumbatugger
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“John has known Darren a long time through his bad times and his good and doesn't seem to hold any of that against him. Sometimes good friends do things that pee you off but if there is real friendship you get past it. Darren's continual sniping says far more about his relationship to John than vice versa. Gemma of course hasn't helped continually dripping poison in Darren's ear after the nomination.”

Absolutely this.

And now dripping to Gemma, who is gleeful at the prospect of reigniting a campaign against an old target, just seems boring and resentful and unpleasant.

Darren can go do one, with Gemma.
Shopaholic26
27-01-2016
God sake, he is STILL going on about it?
Alrightmate
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“From what I remember of Johns nomination of Darren he said that Darren had started smoking again in there and made it sound like he was worried Darren was on a slippery slope. Darren takes his sobriety very seriously as he should and I don't think John could have said anything worse to him. It may sound like Darren can't let it go but it's obviously hit at the core of him and may be very difficult for him to forgive. Darren may be boring but John struck a very low blow with his comments and he may find he has damaged their friendship beyond repair.”

Were they friends before they went into CBB?
Because when John said that it was very early days, and I'm not sure how much of a friendship they really had.
hisdogspot
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“John has known Darren a long time through his bad times and his good and doesn't seem to hold any of that against him. Sometimes good friends do things that pee you off but if there is real friendship you get past it. Darren's continual sniping says far more about his relationship to John than vice versa. Gemma of course hasn't helped continually dripping poison in Darren's ear after the nomination.”

Yes, and John probably knows more about Darren than the others do

For instance, last night on live feed, Darren showed, and talked about, a tattoo on his arm several times.

It was a date ( 26.01.02 ) ... the date of his father's death

He showed the tattoo to Gillian and explained that he had stopped smoking on that date and had only started again since he's been in the house. He said how astonished he was that she had come into the house on the exact same day telling him to stop smoking. Gillian was appalled that he had started smoking again and said something about her being there was like a message from his father

So when Darren got p'd off at John for nominating him about what was "only a few fags" he was not being entirely honest. He made out it was 'no big deal' when it clearly was .... maybe John knew that too
BabelBrook
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Were they friends before they went into CBB?
Because when John said that it was very early days, and I'm not sure how much of a friendship they really had.”

They first performed together years ago and Arlene Phillips said that they were friends on SOTS
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