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Old 27-01-2016, 14:11
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I've just bought a Samsun 40 inch TV (ue40h6400) and I have just set up and it looks great

Next I need to connect my old Humax hdr fox t2 box to the TV. Previously I had it connected to a Sony 32 inch HD ready TV and viewed all of my telly via the Humax. I found it extremely easy to record and play back. But I must confess I'm a little bit frightened and confused as to how I should connect the Samsung and Humax together. Can you advise

My TV viewing is simple. I don't have satellite, I enjoy watching live television and record series like Downton Abbey and David Attenborough for future use. I'll also record one offs if there is something on two station that I want to see. I subscribe to Netflix and that's about it

Now that I have a Full HD TV, for normal day to day viewing will I get a better picture watching via the TV, or should I just carry on as usual watching via the Humax? Should add the box is at least 5 years old. One of my best buys!

In the future I would hope to get a blue ray player as the TV is 3D ready.

So can anyone advise as to how best to connect. What cables go where? I think part of my concern is that I'm not to sure how easy it would be to change from the TV to the Humax if I wanted to r cord something, or watch Netflix while r cording something

Ok so far m not tech minded but I'm not to proud to admit it a and I'm quite sure it is pretty simple!
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Old 27-01-2016, 14:15
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Just connect via HDMI cable (EDIT: probably how you had it for the Sony). The Humax records of its own tuners and does not use the TV at all.

You probably don't have to change anything in the Humax though I don't know what HDMI settings it has.

The Humax is (I believe) Freeview HD and so the easiest thing to do is watch all your TV via that rather than switch between that and the TV tuner for live and recorded other than if you are recording two channels and want to watch a 3rd off the TV tuner.
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Old 27-01-2016, 14:31
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As well as the HDMI you need to also connect a coaxial fly-lead from the aerial output on the Humax to the aerial input on the TV, in order to watch on the TV's own DVB-T2 tuner (the main TV aerial goes into the Humax).

Only you can decide if the HD progs look better on the TV's own tuner or through the Humax, but it's very easy to switch sources on the TV (any TV), and that won't affect any recordings you are making on the Humax.

Just make sure the Humax is set to output 1080i, 1080p or 'auto' in order to make a fair comparison.
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Old 27-01-2016, 17:28
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Couple of points arising from previous posts.

To use aerial loop through while the box is in sby requires Low Power Standby to be set to off.

You can view third channels while recording two. If both recordings are from the same mux then any third channel is viewable (only uses one tuner).

If from different mux then any third channel on the same mux as either recording can be viewed.

The channel up/down control will cycle through usable channels.

If after auto tuning you find channels with a channel number over 800 you will need to manually tune the box as it is receiving from more than one transmitter. This screws up recordings made from the epg.

The OP should post again if this condition is found with a approximate location if the preferred transmitter is not known.

The HDMI inputs on HD TV's have individual settings for each port. If the TV looks better than the HDR FOX T2 it's near certain down to some unwanted video processing set in the TV setup menus.
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Old 27-01-2016, 18:34
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Presumably though the Sony TV was already connected via aerial loop through (or splitter) so just have the set up connected as before?
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Old 27-01-2016, 18:42
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Presumably though the Sony TV was already connected via aerial loop through (or splitter) so just have the set up connected as before?
Well the OP did say that they did all their TV viewing previously via the Humax box, so I wasn't assuming anything.
Specially as they seemed in some confusion.
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Old 28-01-2016, 01:37
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Thanks guys for your answers. I'll have sometime to myself come Friday so I'll see what I can do.

When emptybox wrote
Only you can decide if the HD progs look better on the TV's own tuner or through the Humax,
it occurred to me that all the Humax box was doing was receiving the signal and passing it through to the TV and that, therefore, there should be no difference in the quality of the picture/sound whether it is been received via the PVR or the TV. Am I correct, or is that just in theory?
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Old 28-01-2016, 09:55
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Thanks guys for your answers. I'll have sometime to myself come Friday so I'll see what I can do.

When emptybox wrote it occurred to me that all the Humax box was doing was receiving the signal and passing it through to the TV and that, therefore, there should be no difference in the quality of the picture/sound whether it is been received via the PVR or the TV. Am I correct, or is that just in theory?
No you're not correct, BOTH will process the signal - so it depends on the quality of the processing - in fact the first Humax HD box was absolutely abysmal on HD when first released, the picture was incredibly 'soft'. They eventually cured it by a software update though.

There's likely to be little difference these days though, so just use whichever is most convenient at the time - using the Humax obviously gives you the option of pausing and rewinding of course.
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Old 28-01-2016, 13:06
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Thanks guys for your answers. I'll have sometime to myself come Friday so I'll see what I can do.

When emptybox wrote it occurred to me that all the Humax box was doing was receiving the signal and passing it through to the TV and that, therefore, there should be no difference in the quality of the picture/sound whether it is been received via the PVR or the TV. Am I correct, or is that just in theory?
Just to make sure there's no misunderstanding, I'm not talking about the signal pass through (or loop through) whereby you connect the aerial lead to the Humax, and then a fly-lead to the TV.
That doesn't do anything to the RF signal, and the signal should be exactly the same as if you'd connected the aerial lead directly to the TV.
(provided the Humax is not set in 'Low Power Standby' mode, and it's not a completely crappy fly-lead).

What we are talking about is the processing (and scaling, in the case of SD channels) done by the box and TV to produce the picture on the screen, as described by Nigel above.
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Old 28-01-2016, 14:19
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Thanks for clearing up that point.

The TV came with an IE extender lead. Put the jack into the appropriate socket on the TV and place the other end before the Humax. Also have a HDMI cable running from the TV to the Humax,

I fiddled a bit with it last night but couldn't get it to work. Anyone out there used this type of extender\?

As always thanks for your help

Kevin
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Old 28-01-2016, 18:13
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Thanks for clearing up that point.

The TV came with an IE extender lead. Put the jack into the appropriate socket on the TV and place the other end before the Humax. Also have a HDMI cable running from the TV to the Humax,

I fiddled a bit with it last night but couldn't get it to work. Anyone out there used this type of extender\?

As always thanks for your help

Kevin
I'm presuming you mean an IR (infra red) extender lead?
http://www.samsung.com/ae/support/skp/faq/1033381

Never used one, but your Humax box would have to be supported for it to work.
http://www.samsung.com/ae/support/skp/htg/15343#none

Presuming it is supported, it probably comes down to the positioning of the remote 'sensor'.
It might be useful to hold it at various places and various distances from the Humax while you try out the Samsung's remote control.
(another person may be useful )
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Old 28-01-2016, 18:46
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I'm presuming you mean an IR (infra red) extender lead?
http://www.samsung.com/ae/support/skp/faq/1033381

Never used one, but your Humax box would have to be supported for it to work.
http://www.samsung.com/ae/support/skp/htg/15343#none

Presuming it is supported, it probably comes down to the positioning of the remote 'sensor'.
It might be useful to hold it at various places and various distances from the Humax while you try out the Samsung's remote control.
(another person may be useful )
The Humax box certainly has no use for it unless the TV remote can control the box. As the box itself is presumably not in a cupboard even if the TV remote can be so programmed it would be pointless..
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