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Allegations of Sam Reece controlling and abusing Stephanie
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ucra girl
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“It doesn't matter. If you have not been in an abusive relationship you wouldn't know. Most people would be scared to do what she is doing behind closed doors if she was getting hit, never mind on TV. Why else do you see so many people who stay with their abusive husbands? (or wives, it goes both ways), because they are scared if they try and escape or tell someone, things would get worse.

It doesn't matter if they are locked away. If he was really abusive, he'd be waiting for her after she exits the house and God knows what someone would do. If he's abusive, what does she think will happen whilst she's in the house? Hope that an abusive story has come out and have him arrested and charged by the time she leaves the house in order for her to "walk free"?

This is just bull.”

Huh? Are you serious? Stephanie has to press charges inorder for him to be arrested and it hasnt occured to you that she on a show ie not around.Do the police act on her friends' accounts? Unless she wants them as witnesses.

TV is a safe place for her to get out of the relationship if this is true.She doesnt need to see him again.
hisdogspot
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“Huh? Are you serious? Stephanie has to press charges inorder for him to be arrested and it hasnt occured to you that she on a show ie not around.Do the police act on her friends' accounts? Unless she wants them as witnesses.

TV is a safe place for her to get out of the relationship if this is true.She doesnt need to see him again.”

I'm pretty sure there will be forum members who have, unfortunately, been victims of domestic abuse

I'll wait to hear their take on your opinion
Vesna
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“It doesn't matter. If you have not been in an abusive relationship you wouldn't know. Most people would be scared to do what she is doing behind closed doors if she was getting hit, never mind on TV. Why else do you see so many people who stay with their abusive husbands? (or wives, it goes both ways), because they are scared if they try and escape or tell someone, things would get worse.

It doesn't matter if they are locked away. If he was really abusive, he'd be waiting for her after she exits the house and God knows what someone would do. If he's abusive, what does she think will happen whilst she's in the house? Hope that an abusive story has come out and have him arrested and charged by the time she leaves the house in order for her to "walk free"?

This is just bull.”

It seems there is no inbetween in a lot of these comments.

For her to be telling the truth he has to be REALLY ABUSIVE?

I've watched a young girl who has never been treated well by significant others to the point that she didn't know there was any other way.

Sam doesn't have to be really abusive or even abusive for her to feel their relationship wasn't right, now that's she knows that all men aren't like that. Jeremy really looks out for her and cares about her well being, I don't think Sam ever has, which is not the same as being REALLY ABUSIVE. She's said not everything was ok in their relationship which might refer to his sleeping with random women while on holiday or it might refer to his just not being attentive or caring, at least not like Jeremy is.

She's made the right choice it seems to me. Jeremy clearly cares a lot for her and treats her like she matters. It's confused her to the point that I feel she's never been treated like that by a man before so didn't know it was even possible.

Jeremy it appears treats her as a woman should be treated, which is nothing like what she's known before. She's quite a beautiful girl and a lot of guys just care about the outside, well a lot of people just care about the outside. Which is quite shallow and not conducive to a lifelong pairing.
hisdogspot
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“It seems there is no inbetween in a lot of these comments.

For her to be telling the truth he has to be REALLY ABUSIVE?

I've watched a young girl who has never been treated well by significant others to the point that she didn't know there was any other way.

Sam doesn't have to be really abusive or even abusive for her to feel their relationship wasn't right, now that's she knows that all men aren't like that. Jeremy really looks out for her and cares about her well being, I don't think Sam ever has, which is not the same as being REALLY ABUSIVE. She's said not everything was ok in their relationship which might refer to his sleeping with random women while on holiday or it might refer to his just not being attentive or caring, at least not like Jeremy is.

She's made the right choice it seems to me. Jeremy clearly cares a lot for her and treats her like she matters. It's confused her to the point that I feel she's never been treated like that by a man before so didn't know it was even possible.

Jeremy it appears treats her as a woman should be treated, which is nothing like what she's known before. She's quite a beautiful girl and a lot of guys just care about the outside, well a lot of people just care about the outside. Which is quite shallow and not conducive to a lifelong pairing.”

Salv pointed out on another thread that Stephanie was the girl Cristian was banging on about in his series ... the one who dumped him because he didn't have enough money

Cristian didn't strike me as an 'abusive' sort of bloke either

It seems Stephanie has had more than a few relationships, and I seriously doubt Jeremy is the first non-abusive bloke she's ever come across
kitkat1971
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
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The way to get out of an abusive relationship is to go public with witnesses.

Jeez she has an agent.Sam doesnt control her professional goings!”

He wouldn't need to.

If he was as controlling as is being alleged he would manipulate Stephanie into having turned the job down. That is how abusers work. It is not just physical, they get inside their victims heads so they 'control' themselves and don't do anything that might anger their Partner.

The idea that TV is the safest place for her and she never needs to see him again is somewhat naive. If he really is this bad, he will not leave it there - he will trrack her down, convince her that he has changed, he loves her, please give him another chance. Or he will threaten her or her friends and family.

The reason victims don't leave is because they are terrified of the consequences. That wherever they go, they will be found and placing others in danger. Abusers reguarly threaten to burn down any House they go to with them and their friends of family in it.

The only way for Steph to escape if this is happening is to go to the Police herself - her flirting with another man on TV will just increase his anger and her friends comments are,'t helping. They are not evidence and all it actually achieves is making Sam look like he might be. A victim of Libel or a smear campaign to save Steph's reputation after publicly cheating.

I don't know if he is abusing her or not. I sincerely hope he isn't for her sake as nobody deserves that. If he is, i hope she gets out and rebuilds her life.

But i will say that having been hit myself, you never forget what it feels like and are so scared of it possibly happening again that you do anything you can to avoid it. And that includes not flirting with other me, especially not in circumstances where your partner (abuser) will find out.

So, to me, her behaviour with Jeremy is not consistent with a woman whose boyfriend is abusive when he gets jealous.

That's not slating her for the sake of it, just stating what I've seen on screen in relation to my understanding of living with abuse.
avon942
27-01-2016
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4bkjSSd6Wqo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cHM3nNSaLlg
mysty211
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“He should stop watching and talking to the press.After what he has seen why would he still be interested.Sam is much to blame as Stephanie,no need to excuse him.If Steph comfirms these allegations when she exits the house,it has worse implications than her cheating.”

He's barely spoke to the press he's just done his own thing the press is watching him to see what he'll say reading his twitter and everything writing stories. How do we know these are true? again it took the friends 5 days before saying anything in relation to his no support of her. The article is from January 18th not recently.
He's handling it quite well imo keeping tightlipped not saying a word.
Plus I'm sure Stephanie wouldn't have been ever talking about marrying the guy if he was abusive. He probably enjoys big brother watches it anyway and has already moved on.
You seem to have come to your own conclusion by reading one story a friend wrote about him and taking it for word. We all know how people can make up stories. Despite the way Stephanie has been speaking about the guy throughout her time telling everyone that she loves him .
avon942
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“He should stop watching and talking to the press.After what he has seen why would he still be interested.Sam is much to blame as Stephanie,no need to excuse him.If Steph comfirms these allegations when she exits the house,it has worse implications than her cheating.”

He hasn't said a word to the press or given any interviews.
Aimee
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by D. Morgan:
“For her to fall for somebody in the house tells me straight away that not all was right in their relationship.”

That's what I think too.
Vesna
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“Salv pointed out on another thread that Stephanie was the girl Cristian was banging on about in his series ... the one who dumped him because he didn't have enough money

Cristian didn't strike me as an 'abusive' sort of bloke either

It seems Stephanie has had more than a few relationships, and I seriously doubt Jeremy is the first non-abusive bloke she's ever come across”

Don't take this the wrong way but Cristian would say something like that because in his mind he's "god's gift". She more likely dumped him because he's dull and supercilious.

One does not have to be abusive to be dumped you know. Some guys are just so up themselves. Cristian came across to me as totally up himself.
foodforthought
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by hannah:
“These allegations only came out when he said he was no longer supporting her on Twitter”

IF you look at her 1 minute she is fine the next she mentioned this guy Sam I would say he is frightened of something I think if the allegations are true someone who as been in that position or who is in that position is best to answer how the reaction it appears she is upset over something not only the Jeremy thing she does look frightening of leaving the BB house
Hildaonpluto
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“It seems there is no inbetween in a lot of these comments.

For her to be telling the truth he has to be REALLY ABUSIVE?

I've watched a young girl who has never been treated well by significant others to the point that she didn't know there was any other way.

Sam doesn't have to be really abusive or even abusive for her to feel their relationship wasn't right, now that's she knows that all men aren't like that. Jeremy really looks out for her and cares about her well being, I don't think Sam ever has, which is not the same as being REALLY ABUSIVE. She's said not everything was ok in their relationship which might refer to his sleeping with random women while on holiday or it might refer to his just not being attentive or caring, at least not like Jeremy is.

She's made the right choice it seems to me. Jeremy clearly cares a lot for her and treats her like she matters. It's confused her to the point that I feel she's never been treated like that by a man before so didn't know it was even possible.

Jeremy it appears treats her as a woman should be treated, which is nothing like what she's known before. She's quite a beautiful girl and a lot of guys just care about the outside, well a lot of people just care about the outside. Which is quite shallow and not conducive to a lifelong pairing.”


There's so much conjecture in your post about how Sam is with her in a relationship. You really could be drawing up the wrong dots with your theories.

I think a good psychologist would say that her current feelings for Jeremy and his for her or indeed anyone in a comparable situation is most likely a function of the intense and unusual bubble like circumstances they find themselves in rather than a sign Jeremys a cut above or better suited to her than all other previous partners or that Jeremys the one.
Close proximity and isolation are going to make acquaintances seem like best friends, average blokes or ladies seem compatibility wise seem like the best thing since sliced bread.
This isn't unusual in reality shows like this but is likely to bear little relation to their compatibility etc outside of that environment or bubble.
Sorry but the history of these type of relationships, romances and liaisons in reality TV shows in the past the world over points to this rather than cupids magic or the stars current partner until the show -in this case Sam being exceptionally incompatible or poor in the relationship etc.

The grass is greener on the other side has tricked many a person over the years and CBB circumstances are more intense and unusual than real life.
hisdogspot
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Don't take this the wrong way but Cristian would say something like that because in his mind he's "god's gift". She more likely dumped him because he's dull and supercilious.

One does not have to be abusive to be dumped you know. Some guys are just so up themselves. Cristian came across to me as totally up himself.”

Someone else's fault again then ?

That's the thing with Stephanie ... it's always someone else's fault
mysty211
27-01-2016
I think Stephanie is more afraid to leave the house as she's heard her boos from the crowd.
She's scared about what will happen. She hadn't yet accepted responsibility for her actions so doesn't know why the public don't like her.
kitkat1971
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by foodforthought:
“IF you look at her 1 minute she is fine the next she mentioned this guy Sam I would say he is frightened of something I think if the allegations are true someone who as been in that position or who is in that position is best to answer how the reaction it appears she is upset over something not only the Jeremy thing she does look frightening of leaving the BB house”

She is without a doubt emotionally volatile and prone to mood swings. She also appears scared of leaving the House.

Now this could indicate abuse or she may have emotional problems that are entirely down to her, regardless of boyfriends or abuse.

Being scared of leaving the House, i think anybod with half a brain would be. She knows that her relationship with Jeremy has been featured due to comments being made. She knows she has got boos and her reputation was already not good. She might be scared that Sam is going to dump her which she doesn't (or at least didn't) want because she loves him or she might be scared because he is abusive. She might just be scared because she has 'disappointed' her family which seems to be a big thing for her.

So, i don't really think it indicates anything regarding the truth of the abuse claims.

Again though, her keeping on saying how wonderful he is, her life with him is, that things were 'perfect' before she came in and she thought she was about to get an engagement ring doesn't sound like a victim of abuse.

Unless he has got into her head so much that she really believes the abuse is normal and she is happy. But then, if he has got to her to that extent, that her thoughts are controlled even after 3 weeks away from him in the BB bunnle, it seems very odd that she would have acted the way she has with Jeremy and also that she would have made the decision to go into the House at all as he wouldn't want to risk her being away from his influence for that long.
CLIVE_Smith
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by foodforthought:
“IF you look at her 1 minute she is fine the next she mentioned this guy Sam I would say he is frightened of something I think if the allegations are true someone who as been in that position or who is in that position is best to answer how the reaction it appears she is upset over something not only the Jeremy thing she does look frightening of leaving the BB house”

Yes agree on last nights HL show when Jeremy and her were talking and hugged and had a real tear, Jeremy said i'll be waiting for you when your evicted the relief in her face was apparent not sure there connected but make's you think
mysty211
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by foodforthought:
“IF you look at her 1 minute she is fine the next she mentioned this guy Sam I would say he is frightened of something I think if the allegations are true someone who as been in that position or who is in that position is best to answer how the reaction it appears she is upset over something not only the Jeremy thing she does look frightening of leaving the BB house”

She received boos thats probably why she's scared getting badly booed by the crowd over how she's acting/ This is probably why she is upset as she can't understand what she has done to get those boos and is afraid of facing the crowd with the boos. Also she strikes me as someone who needs someone exactly what Gillian said to her she's not so secure by herself. None of this is to do with Sam just herself how she handles things and her self-validation.
CLIVE_Smith
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“She is without a doubt emotionally volatile and prone to mood swings. She also appears scared of leaving the House.

Now this could indicate abuse or she may have emotional problems that are entirely down to her, regardless of boyfriends or abuse.

Being scared of leaving the House, i think anybod with half a brain would be. She knows that her relationship with Jeremy has been featured due to comments being made. She knows she has got boos and her reputation was already not good. She might be scared that Sam is going to dump her which she doesn't (or at least didn't) want because she loves him or she might be scared because he is abusive. She might just be scared because she has 'disappointed' her family which seems to be a big thing for her.

So, i don't really think it indicates anything regarding the truth of the abuse claims.

Again though, her keeping on saying how wonderful he is, her life with him is, that things were 'perfect' before she came in and she thought she was about to get an engagement ring doesn't sound like a victim of abuse.

Unless he has got into her head so much that she really believes the abuse is normal and she is happy. But then, if he has got to her to that extent, that her thoughts are controlled even after 3 weeks away from him in the BB bunnle, it seems very odd that she would have acted the way she has with Jeremy and also that she would have made the decision to go into the House at all as he wouldn't want to risk her being away from his influence for that long.”

Great post but could it be as simple as shes met someone else who she fancies more , and the reason she's scared is she doesn't know how her family and ex will be
hunkydory
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by hannah:
“Its funny Stephanie is the one in the wrong yet all the bad press is around Sam so according to the press he is a woman beater, serial cheater, bisexual”

yet she wanted to marry him
hannah
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by hunkydory:
“yet she wanted to marry him”

Exactly why was she saying if he was abusive. Got to say the whole Steph/Jeremy/Sam relationship saga has been weird.
kitkat1971
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by CLIVE_Smith:
“Great post but could it be as simple as shes met someone else who she fancies more , and the reason she's scared is she doesn't know how her family and ex will be ”

Exactly.

I meant to put that as a distinct option but i guess it kind of fell into being scared as to how her boyfriend and family react to what has happened with Jeremy, but that doesn't mean scared of a violent reaction.

If it is as she has said, that Sam treats her well, they were happy and in love and on the point of getting engaged then he would have every right to tell her how disappointed, upset, hurt he is and that he now thinks she is a horrible person - which won't be nice to hear and i wouldn't blame her for being scared to hear it. But his response wouldn't be 'abusive' if they were in a committed relationship and she has cheated and dumped him on National TV.
CLIVE_Smith
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Exactly.

I meant to put that as a distinct option but i guess it kind of fell into being scared as to how her boyfriend and family react to what has happened with Jeremy, but that doesn't mean scared of a violent reaction.

If it is as she has said, that Sam treats her well, they were happy and in love and on the point of getting engaged then he would have every right to tell her how disappointed, upset, hurt he is and that he now thinks she is a horrible person - which won't be nice to hear and i wouldn't blame her for being scared to hear it. But his response wouldn't be 'abusive' if they were in a committed relationship and she has cheated and dumped him on National TV.”

Of course he has a right to be upset with her and let her no how he feels that's normal when most people break up, he has more reason to be upset because of the way shes done it, she should of waited till she was out and if Jeremy likes her he would have waited.

Rogana Josh
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“She is without a doubt emotionally volatile and prone to mood swings. She also appears scared of leaving the House.

Now this could indicate abuse or she may have emotional problems that are entirely down to her, regardless of boyfriends or abuse.

Being scared of leaving the House, i think anybod with half a brain would be. She knows that her relationship with Jeremy has been featured due to comments being made. She knows she has got boos and her reputation was already not good. She might be scared that Sam is going to dump her which she doesn't (or at least didn't) want because she loves him or she might be scared because he is abusive. She might just be scared because she has 'disappointed' her family which seems to be a big thing for her.

So, i don't really think it indicates anything regarding the truth of the abuse claims.

Again though, her keeping on saying how wonderful he is, her life with him is, that things were 'perfect' before she came in and she thought she was about to get an engagement ring doesn't sound like a victim of abuse.

Unless he has got into her head so much that she really believes the abuse is normal and she is happy. But then, if he has got to her to that extent, that her thoughts are controlled even after 3 weeks away from him in the BB bunnle, it seems very odd that she would have acted the way she has with Jeremy and also that she would have made the decision to go into the House at all as he wouldn't want to risk her being away from his influence for that long.”

She could also be bi-polar.
Rogana Josh
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by hannah:
“Its funny Stephanie is the one in the wrong yet all the bad press is around Sam so according to the press he is a woman beater, serial cheater, bisexual”

Because her pal told them that? Sam should be seeking legal help - right away.
hannah
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by Rogana Josh:
“Because her pal told them that? Sam should be seeking legal help - right away.”

Interesting to see what happens after she has come out because him and people close to him deny the accusations.
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