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Tired of all the excuses for Stephanie's feckless behaviour
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kitkat1971
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“And you would know that she has never told him in an argument before she entered the house.From what i have read on the internet he is not been a very nice partner to her.But again every relationship hits rocky times.”

So why is she saying in the House, as recently as 3 nights ago, that her life with him was perfect and he was about to propose and she was going to marry him?

Why would she say all that if they weren't happy and she had told him she wanted to split?
Nicola32
27-01-2016
She is incredibly infantile.
sheils1
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Of course nobody should have to stay in an unhappy relationship. They do break up all the time and should if people aren't happy.

You also don't choose when you meet people. You csan be in a relationship and meet somebody else that you fall for and want to be with, in which case you need to end the first relationship and be with the new person you have fallen for.

But there are ways of doing it which don't include humiliating the person you are dumping on National TV.

If she was unhappy, why didn't she end the relationship before going in to the House? Is she the type of girl that will stay in an unhappy relationship just because she needs to be with somebody (anybody) and only end it with the next boyfriend in place? Some people are like that and actually shows a distinct lack of self worth in my opinion (they only matter if they have the validation of being in a romance) but maybe she is like that.

If it is a case of her just having met somebody else and fallen for them, then she should have had the sense (and kindness) to realise that shek5 need to end her relationship with Sam and it would be best to do in private, not have him be made to look stupid by her getting off with the next one. 4 weeks isn't that long, she could have just said to Jeremy we need to keep our distance in here out of consideration for my boyfriend who I need to dump. Or she could even have asked to leave early to deal with it.

But the fact is, she spent the first two weeks saying it was nothing, she loved Sam, that her relationship with Jeremy was just mates and other people were making it into something it wasn't.

So clearly, she doesn't view her public displays of affection towards him to be cheating. And yet, she didn't want Sam to know about it and felt betrayed by people like Sam mentioning it.

I'm not saying it is wrong - what she does is up to her and maybe she and Sam have an understanding but it doesn't equate to my understanding of relationships and how you behave with your friends and she hasn't indicated that her relationship with Sam was casual, open or troubled.”

Sorry i didnt read all your post but firstly she cant finish the relationship as she is in the house and no matter what, people cant turn off and on their feelings.
CLIVE_Smith
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“So why is she saying in the House, as recently as 3 nights ago, that her life with him was perfect and he was about to propose and she was going to marry him?

Why would she say all that if they weren't happy and she had told him she wanted to split?”

Lol exactly
sheils1
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“So why is she saying in the House, as recently as 3 nights ago, that her life with him was perfect and he was about to propose and she was going to marry him?

Why would she say all that if they weren't happy and she had told him she wanted to split?”

I dont know, your asking the wrong person all i think is she has developed strong feelings for Jeremy which she cant help, also she doesnt want to hurt anyone but someone will get hurt.
kitkat1971
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“Sorry i didnt read all your post but firstly she cant finish the relationship as she is in the house and no matter what, people cant turn off and on their feelings.”

If you had read all my post you'd have seen I suggested she could have left early to see him and end it properly if the situation was that serious and she cared about his feelings and ending their relationship in a dignified and kind way. Yes, she'd have lost money but wouldn't the feelings of a man you were talking about marrying be more important than that?

Control feelings? No, they can't. Control actions? Yes, they can. No matter how attracted she is to Jeremy, she doesn't need to keep kissing, cuddling him and getting into his bed.
kitkat1971
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“I dont know, your asking the wrong person all i think is she has developed strong feelings for Jeremy which she cant help, also she doesnt want to hurt anyone but someone will get hurt.”

Fair enough, only she can answer.

But surely you see that saying the things she has in the House does not seem to be what somebody that was in an unhappy relationship prior to entering the House (as you suggested) would do?
sheils1
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“If you had read all my post you'd have seen I suggested she could have left early to see him and end it properly if the situation was that serious and she cared about his feelings and ending their relationship in a dignified and kind way. Yes, she'd have lost money but wouldn't the feelings of a man you were talking about marrying be more important than that?

Control feelings? No, they can't. Control actions? Yes, they can. No matter how attracted she is to Jeremy, she doesn't need to keep kissing, cuddling him and getting into his bed.”

Why not? shes having fun and no doubt he Sam is doing the same.
cah
27-01-2016
Well seems she's made up her Mind now ,if tonights show is anything to go by ...That it's Jeremy she wants to be
atko
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Fair enough, only she can answer.

But surely you see that saying the things she has in the House does not seem to be what somebody that was in an unhappy relationship prior to entering the House (as you suggested) would do?”

I think the whole thing was set up right from the off. Nobody falls for someone else like they did from day one. This series is that poorly 'acted out' that the scripting is standing out by a mile! Gemma's immunity last week was a prime example where everyone could see her lousy acting skills gave the whole thing away. As I say, these two from day one were obvious as were Scotty & Megan....more so given that they have even been on the same show together before this series so that one was a little more so obvious too! BB is getting far too predictable as each series arrives.
avon942
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“Whenever she behaves in a sh*tty way, out roll the excuses .... she's only 22 ... she's practically a baby ... she's just confused ... her parents over-indulged her ... her boyfriend was a scum bag and deserved to be humiliated

On and on it goes

How about the obvious explanation that this shallow, self-centred young woman simply isn't up to much, and her behaviour is rooted in that simple fact ?”

Originally Posted by sheils1:
“Why not? shes having fun and no doubt he Sam is doing the same.”

Getting on with your life doesn't equal to 'having fun'. Besides Steph hardly seem like she's having fun when she's crying all the time.
sheils1
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by avon942:
“Getting on with your life doesn't equal to 'having fun'. Besides Steph hardly seem like she's having fun when she's crying all the time.”

I didnt imply anything about getting on with life, all i said was she was having some fun.She cries mostly when people but their noses in her business like anyone would do.
avon942
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“I didnt imply anything about getting on with life, all i said was she was having some fun.She cries mostly when people but their noses in her business like anyone would do.”

That's because her business is out on display on tv in a house she shares with how many other people. They have the right to but in. She cries because of her guilty conscience and because she's not mature enough to take responsibility for her actions.

I was talking about Sam getting on with his life doesn't empliy he's happy.
sheils1
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by avon942:
“That's because her business is out on display on tv in a house she shares with how many other people. They have the right to but in. She cries because of her guilty conscience and because she's not mature enough to take responsibility for her actions.

I was talking about Sam getting on with his life doesn't empliy he's happy.”

People in that house have no right to poke their nose into peoples business, ffs they want to look at their own lives before slagging someone else off.
kitkat1971
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“Why not? shes having fun and no doubt he Sam is doing the same.”

So we're back to the issue of how committed and serious their relationship is and what constitutes cheating.

If their relationship isn't serious and they don't consider flirting or even snogging to be cheating, just 'having fun' then she has never done anything wrong.

If however, they are in a committed, monogamous relationship, then her behaviour with Jeremy, from virtually the first night, would be considered cheating.

So, i go back to her comments in the House, that BB 'making her friendship with Jeremy out to be something it isn't" "ending her relationship" implies that Sam wouldn't like it, and consider it cheating.

But if she has just met somebody and fallen for them (as you've said in previous posts), it is not just 'having fun' whilst Sam is doing the same and she should give him the consideration to break up with him in person before starting a relationship with Jeremy.

Many of your posts seem very contradictory. In one you claim that they are just young, not a serious relationship so she isn't cheating and has done nothing wrong. In others you're saying they weren't happy, Steph might have told Sam she wanted to split before going in so has done nothing wrong. In others that she was in a relationship but she can't help having met and fallen in love with somebody else and she can't control her feelings so she has done nothing wrong.

It does just seem that you change your defence each time but Steph isn't in the wrong in any of them.

Having seen tonight's, i'm even more convinced she is just emotionally very insecure and damaged and craves attention and affection at all times, mistaking it for love. I feel sorry for her. But i still think she has behaved badly and what she has done, no matter where it comes from, has been cheating.
kitkat1971
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“Why not? shes having fun and no doubt he Sam is doing the same.”

Obvious answer as to why not re controlling her actions and snogging the face off Jeremy is not wanting to hurt her boyfriends feelings or make him look an idiot on National TV.

But as I said, depends what constitutes cheating to the individual.
JVB69
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by hunkydory:
“one of my pet hates people that cheat”

I can understand that, especially if someone cheated on you. My pet hates are people who hurt or kill children , animals or people. I also dislike it when we have disasters or terrorist attacks where people lose their lives or are injured so severely their lives are affected.

They are my pet hates.....I tend not to get hung up on people who cheat or lie or say offensive things as much as those things. Maybe I am over sensitive.
avon942
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“People in that house have no right to poke their nose into peoples business, ffs they want to look at their own lives before slagging someone else off.”

They do when it's in their faces all day and they know she has a boyfriend. They have the right to say they don't agree with her behaviour. Constructive criticism is not slagging someone off.
sheils1
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by avon942:
“They do when it's in their faces all day and they know she has a boyfriend. They have the right to say they don't agree with her behaviour. Constructive criticism is not slagging someone off.”

They have no right to question and slag her off, ffs she should start bringing up their past but respect to her she hasnt, if they done this to me i would tell them to mind their own business and look at their own lives.
avon942
27-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“They have no right to question and slag her off, ffs she should start bringing up their past but respect to her she hasnt, if they done this to me i would tell them to mind their own business and look at their own lives.”

Of course they have a right to they are all sharing a house and it's right in front of their faces. Having an opinion on her behaviour is not slagging her off.
GrozzyGirl
28-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“They have no right to question and slag her off, ffs she should start bringing up their past but respect to her she hasnt, if they done this to me i would tell them to mind their own business and look at their own lives.”

Silly
Originally Posted by avon942:
“Of course they have a right to they are all sharing a house and it's right in front of their faces. Having an opinion on her behaviour is not slagging her off.”

Sensible
sheils1
28-01-2016
Originally Posted by avon942:
“Of course they have a right to they are all sharing a house and it's right in front of their faces. Having an opinion on her behaviour is not slagging her off.”

Oh deary me, well just maybe if they were having sex in bed whilst they were all in the room then yes they would have the right to say something, but alas they are not so Gemma and Daniella need to keep their nasty vindictive opinions to themselves.
sheils1
28-01-2016
Originally Posted by GrozzyGirl:
“Silly


Sensible”

Wow
foxyred
28-01-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“I dont know, your asking the wrong person all i think is she has developed strong feelings for Jeremy which she cant help, also she doesnt want to hurt anyone but someone will get hurt.”

She's a little princess that wants the fairytale but doesn't want to put in the effort of being a proper girlfriend. She wants to be able to kiss and flirt with whoever she likes and flash her arse and other things on a night out and not have anyone to answer to about it to her boyfriend. She wants to be able to go out clubbing and go to work pissed but not have to answer to anyone.

The girl is just so precious but I guess all her life she has been able to get away with it.
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