I walk my dog regularly and have to cross at quite a busy road to get to the park or to our local Tesco. I regularly cross at the zebra crossing.

That crossing had been the reason For most of my blood pressure problems as so many drivers just don't stop.

My dog, myself and an elderly lady with her dogs were crossing the road when a car came barrelling towards us and actually hooted at us for being on the crossing. Do people not remember their Highway Code? Drivers are legally obliged to stop at pedestrian stopping as the pedestrian has right of way and by law the cars should not move again until their is nobody on that crossing you should not move whilst their is anyone on that crossing whatsoever.

Failing to follow the above rules are not even just a slight breach but actually constitute negligent driving and I wish that drivers would actually not try kill people when crossing.. How is you area fo drivers stop?

I feel your pain OP. Drivers do that all the time and it's scary to think that risking killing somebody is somehow worth it if it means they get to be first.

You really shouldn't take a Zebra on the crossing. They're slow and stubborn and it takes ages to get their fat arses out of the way

There's a small crossing outside our nearest sainsburys which suffers in the same way. Drivers don't always realise there's a crossing there.

Generally driving standards IMO are falling and have been since about 8 years ago.
There's a mini roundabout in town (one of those painted ones) where people don't look or give way to the right, and others block the side road stopping traffic from entering and leaving that side road (which leads to that supermarket) thus leading to horrific traffic jams (also not helped by a priority one direction only section put in place a few years back).

Another roundabout (another painted one, mini) in the town where I work also has drivers on the main road who appear to be ignorant of the people turning right (into the housing estate). When my late father ended up in the old peoples home at the same location, I had to make that right turn every few days - a real shocker.

This is not my area, but it's very similar to this...
http://youtu.be/vYK27RiOFcU

I always stop,like most people.What annoys me are people who 'loiter with intent' to walk onto the crossing.You slow down and stop, but they are just standing chatting where they would cross.
I reckon there is just a general decline in driving standards across the board just now.Too many cars,congested roads,everyone in a hurry etc etc.Ever seen anyone pulled over for tailgating?.No,me nether.It doesn't surprise me some people not stopping at Zebra Crossings.

Which part of the highway code is that?

Rule 194
Allow pedestrians plenty of time to cross and do not harass them by revving your engine or edging forward.

Where does it say that there must be no one on the crossing before you can move forward?

Rule 195 should cover it. You'll have to do your own Googling for a while as I'm about to stuff my face.

It doesn't. You are required to give way to pedestrians who are using the crossing, that's all. Once they have moved away from your vehicle, and provided there are no more crossing behind them, you are free to move off.

There is no requirement for the crossing to have to be completely clear before you can go. A common fallacy, so I believe.

I don't think that "allow pedestrians plenty of time to cross" could ever be interpreted as "it's okay to set off once pedestrians are halfway across the road". You have to stop for them, even if they aren't on your side of the road yet/anymore.

What happens if they change their minds and go back?

I know exactly what you mean, OP. There's a zebra crossing near me that I've used many, many times over the years and I've lost count of the number of times drivers have pretended they can't see me and kept going. It makes my blood boil. And the worst for doing it in my experience are middle aged women. Men tend to stop, and people criticise young drivers a lot, but in most cases they stop too. But in all the times it's happened to me, I would say 8 or 9 times out of 10 it's been a middle aged woman driving.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-high...oad-159-to-203

Rule 195
Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing

look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross
you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing
allow more time for stopping on wet or icy roads
do not wave or use your horn to invite pedestrians across; this could be dangerous if another vehicle is approaching
be aware of pedestrians approaching from the side of the crossing.

Doesn't say you can move if they are not in your way - I always wait until they have reached the other side.

That situation is not covered by the Highway Code.

Yes it is. Rules 194 and 195. It covers people walking backwards, pantomime horses... Obviously every specific possibility isn't explicitly stated but "give way" and "allow pedestrians plenty of time to cross" ought to suffice.

This drives me mad. I've tried to cross just to be ignored and the have two other drivers copy the first and not let me cross. If you decide to cross anyway you take your life in your hands. Another time a driver and his mate screamed at me to "get out of the ***king road!". Pelican crossings aren't safe either. If there's no other traffic the drivers go through the red light at speed. One woman drove onto the crossing while I was still on it and actually nudged me physically with her car while looking at me angrily like she was off her tits on coke or something. This is despite there being CCTV in a built up area of London. They don't give a damn.

Pretty sure if it's not completely clear and you are on your test it is an instant failure.

Someone we know was crossing at a crossing near us pushing a buggy with her small child in it and a car shot by and knocked her down, she managed to push the buggy out of the way but was badly injured. I always look out for people about to cross as there are a lot of old people in sheltered housing near us.

Rule 195 only contains one MUST which is you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing
There isn't anything in rules 194 and 195 that support the OPs claim that it is the law that you have to wait until the crossing is clear before moving forward.

It happens a lot at a zebra crossing near me and my experience is the same as yours, If you say anything they do have time to stop pull down the window and shout abuse.

I don't agree, I'm afraid, but it's clearly a very contentious issue. There's also the possibility you could be faulted for failing to make adequate progress for not moving forward.

This is very interesting, found on a driving instructor's forum:

http://adiforum.co.uk/forum/discussi...a-crossings/p1

Some say "Yes", some say "No!"

Would appreciate clarification of the following please. Regarding Zebra crossings on a wider road usually having a central pedestrian island that in effect divides the crossing into two sections, with the crossing clear as a driver approaches but a person is on the 2nd half of the crossing, is the driver with the clear section obliged by law also to stop ?

Apropos of nothing, I was driving along the other day and the woman driving in front of me stopped at a pedestrian crossing. We had a green light but she let loads of people cross the road. Then the lights changed to red and we sat there motionless as no one crossed. Bizarre.

Yeah that's partly the fault of todays pedestrians who ignore the light system all together.

It's embarrassing to watch a parent trying really hard to teach a child about crossing the road and "waiting for the green man" when every adult who comes along just walks across regardless because they think the road is clear.