New Now TV advance box coming next month

ashjf · 29-01-2016, 09:26

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...-advanced-box/

Looks like a new Now TV box will be launched next month, new UI, I would assume that it would be to bring it in line with Sky Q that also launches next month.

SkipTracer · 29-01-2016, 09:46

This has now come up on DS news and re-vamped UI, box-sets more channels and more and more of the same but unless they start doing HD content on their boxes they can by-pass my front door and go straight to a land-fill site.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tech/news/...ew-now-tv-box/

retrodj · 29-01-2016, 09:52

As I put on another post, this is more interesting to me than SKY Q. If they sell the box with some passes like the current box at a reasonable price, then I will be tempted.

Richard_T · 29-01-2016, 15:21

Looks like a Roku 4

ovbg · 29-01-2016, 15:56

Hmmm. I'm not sure where broadband News got their "available next month" bit, as everything Now TV have told me is that only the new UI is coming next month. The new box will be available "later in the year".

muppetman11 · 29-01-2016, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ovbg

Hmmm. I'm not sure where broadband News got their "available next month" bit, as everything Now TV have told me is that only the new UI is coming next month. The new box will be available "later in the year".

Agreed it's an error , I believe they've got the launch of the new UI mixed up with the new box launch.

swb1964 · 29-01-2016, 19:21

60 free to air channels?

Any word yet on what they will be?

cornish · 29-01-2016, 19:36

http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/29/s...-tv-smart-box/

Jimmy_Barnes · 29-01-2016, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by swb1964

60 free to air channels?

Any word yet on what they will be?

All the Freeview channels.

ovbg · 29-01-2016, 21:19

The question is, would you need a Now TV sub to access them?

swb1964 · 29-01-2016, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy_Barnes

All the Freeview channels.

OK. Interesting. This would make it easier for people in multi occupancy households, or for people who want to watch telly in the bedroom and don't have a TV point in the room.

It's a fairly common question on the terrestrial TV forum- people asking about indoor aerials or whether you can watch the Freeview channels online, and neither of those is a particularly good solution at the moment. Being able to use a NOW TV box with a simple interface and familiar remote control would make it much better, IMHO. Indeed this maybe the first baby steps towards an all-online future for Freeview TV, although the transmitter network will be with us for a long, long time yet.

Depending how you count, there are fewer than 60 channels on Freeview so maybe a few goodies from Freesat as well?

chrisy · 29-01-2016, 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by swb1964

OK. Interesting. This would make it easier for people in multi occupancy households, or for people who want to watch telly in the bedroom and don't have a TV point in the room.

It's a fairly common question on the terrestrial TV forum- people asking about indoor aerials or whether you can watch the Freeview channels online, and neither of those is a particularly good solution at the moment. Being able to use a NOW TV box with a simple interface and familiar remote control would make it much better, IMHO. Indeed this maybe the first baby steps towards an all-online future for Freeview TV, although the transmitter network will be with us for a long, long time yet.

Depending how you count, there are fewer than 60 channels on Freeview so maybe a few goodies from Freesat as well?

I'd think it most likely that the 60 FTA channels will be a TVPlayer app - it's in line with the number of channels they quote on their website. Officially, TVPlayer have no plans to launch on Roku. However, I doubt it is in Sky's interest to stream FTA channels through the Now TV interface using their own servers (at a pinch, *maybe* if they insist on a subscription in order to watch them, but then they are taking the mick with the FTA tag), and as TVPlayer already have the permissions and infrastructure to do this, all it needs is for Sky/Roku to help them out with creating an app.

Note that Sky don't actually say the channels will be the Freeview ones, or mention Freeview at all in their press release. TVPlayer largely has the Freeview channels plus some extras, but not all the Freeview ones are present.

I imagine there will be some financial incentive to stop TVPlayerPlus being available on the platform.

later... (time passes)
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160129005301/en

Hmm, maybe it will actually have a DVB tuner in it, I'm very confused now!

East · 29-01-2016, 23:57

The new NOW TV box would be very welcome in Freeview Light areas if suggestions are correct in previous posts. It could also compete with Talk Talk to a certain degree.

cornish · 30-01-2016, 07:29

the Now TV Smart Box will be a "hybrid" streamer that offers "linear and streaming services through a single device." Sky will be the first Roku partner to combine a streaming service with traditional (Freeview) TV channels.
http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/29/s...-tv-smart-box/

Mickey_T · 30-01-2016, 08:23

They should add 50Hz support to the boxes before anything else.

swb1964 · 30-01-2016, 09:10

If they use TV player, will you have to watch an advert everytime you want to change channel? If so it's a non starter in my book.

What is 50 hz support by the way?

artesea · 30-01-2016, 09:33

I believe it'll be Freeview for the FTA channels so you'll still need an aerial. However it is possible to watch TVPlayer on NOW TV right now if you are willing to sideload my app. No ads, but also no Plus.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B78...p=docslist_api

swb1964 · 30-01-2016, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by artesea

I believe it'll be Freeview for the FTA channels so you'll still need an aerial.

How pointless! I can't see a single use for that. Maybe connecting it to a hdmi monitor without a tuner but how many people will that help?

artesea · 30-01-2016, 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by swb1964

How pointless! I can't see a single use for that. Maybe connecting it to a hdmi monitor without a tuner but how many people will that help?

EE, TalkTalk and BT have all found that customers are willing to use dual purpose boxes.

speedyrite · 30-01-2016, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by artesea

I believe it'll be Freeview for the FTA channels so you'll still need an aerial. However it is possible to watch TVPlayer on NOW TV right now if you are willing to sideload my app. No ads, but also no Plus.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B78...p=docslist_api

Will your app work ok if side-loaded onto a Roku 2?

artesea · 30-01-2016, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedyrite

Will your app work ok if side-loaded onto a Roku 2?

Yup, but this is the easier way https://my.roku.com/add/arteseatvp

speedyrite · 30-01-2016, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by artesea

Yup, but this is the easier way https://my.roku.com/add/arteseatvp

Even better! Thanks.

ovbg · 30-01-2016, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by swb1964

How pointless! I can't see a single use for that. Maybe connecting it to a hdmi monitor without a tuner but how many people will that help?

Sadly, many will like this. Most people find changing HDMI ports too difficult, so having it all mixed into one, Now TV may hope it keeps people on their HDMI #1 port.

1andrew1 · 30-01-2016, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ovbg

Sadly, many will like this. Most people find changing HDMI ports too difficult, so having it all mixed into one, Now TV may hope it keeps people on their HDMI #1 port.

Agreed. By having to select source to get Now TV, some Freeview users would be deterred from accessing it.
I wonder if the Now TV remote control will be able to replace the TV remote?

swb1964 · 30-01-2016, 14:12

Does the Roku 4 have a DVB tuner? If not, it seems a lot of expensive customisation to go to for relatively small gain?

29-01-2016, 09:26	#1
ashjf Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: South East Posts: 909	New Now TV advance box coming next month http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...-advanced-box/ Looks like a new Now TV box will be launched next month, new UI, I would assume that it would be to bring it in line with Sky Q that also launches next month.

29-01-2016, 09:46	#2
SkipTracer Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The City and County of Bristol Posts: 2,623	This has now come up on DS news and re-vamped UI, box-sets more channels and more and more of the same but unless they start doing HD content on their boxes they can by-pass my front door and go straight to a land-fill site. http://www.digitalspy.com/tech/news/...ew-now-tv-box/

29-01-2016, 09:52	#3
retrodj Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Up North Posts: 125	As I put on another post, this is more interesting to me than SKY Q. If they sell the box with some passes like the current box at a reasonable price, then I will be tempted.

29-01-2016, 15:21	#4
Richard_T Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: East Midlands Posts: 3,842	Looks like a Roku 4

29-01-2016, 15:56	#5
ovbg Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,348	Hmmm. I'm not sure where broadband News got their "available next month" bit, as everything Now TV have told me is that only the new UI is coming next month. The new box will be available "later in the year".

29-01-2016, 16:11	#6
muppetman11 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,162	Quote: Originally Posted by ovbg Hmmm. I'm not sure where broadband News got their "available next month" bit, as everything Now TV have told me is that only the new UI is coming next month. The new box will be available "later in the year". Agreed it's an error , I believe they've got the launch of the new UI mixed up with the new box launch.

29-01-2016, 19:21	#7
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	60 free to air channels? Any word yet on what they will be?

29-01-2016, 19:36	#8
cornish Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: kernow Posts: 273	http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/29/s...-tv-smart-box/

29-01-2016, 21:14	#9
Jimmy_Barnes Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 794	Quote: Originally Posted by swb1964 60 free to air channels? Any word yet on what they will be? All the Freeview channels.

29-01-2016, 21:19	#10
ovbg Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,348	The question is, would you need a Now TV sub to access them?

29-01-2016, 22:42	#11
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Quote: Originally Posted by Jimmy_Barnes All the Freeview channels. OK. Interesting. This would make it easier for people in multi occupancy households, or for people who want to watch telly in the bedroom and don't have a TV point in the room. It's a fairly common question on the terrestrial TV forum- people asking about indoor aerials or whether you can watch the Freeview channels online, and neither of those is a particularly good solution at the moment. Being able to use a NOW TV box with a simple interface and familiar remote control would make it much better, IMHO. Indeed this maybe the first baby steps towards an all-online future for Freeview TV, although the transmitter network will be with us for a long, long time yet. Depending how you count, there are fewer than 60 channels on Freeview so maybe a few goodies from Freesat as well?

29-01-2016, 23:14	#12
chrisy Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Beds (Sandy Heath TX) Posts: 8,853	Quote: Originally Posted by swb1964 OK. Interesting. This would make it easier for people in multi occupancy households, or for people who want to watch telly in the bedroom and don't have a TV point in the room. It's a fairly common question on the terrestrial TV forum- people asking about indoor aerials or whether you can watch the Freeview channels online, and neither of those is a particularly good solution at the moment. Being able to use a NOW TV box with a simple interface and familiar remote control would make it much better, IMHO. Indeed this maybe the first baby steps towards an all-online future for Freeview TV, although the transmitter network will be with us for a long, long time yet. Depending how you count, there are fewer than 60 channels on Freeview so maybe a few goodies from Freesat as well? I'd think it most likely that the 60 FTA channels will be a TVPlayer app - it's in line with the number of channels they quote on their website. Officially, TVPlayer have no plans to launch on Roku. However, I doubt it is in Sky's interest to stream FTA channels through the Now TV interface using their own servers (at a pinch, maybe if they insist on a subscription in order to watch them, but then they are taking the mick with the FTA tag), and as TVPlayer already have the permissions and infrastructure to do this, all it needs is for Sky/Roku to help them out with creating an app. Note that Sky don't actually say the channels will be the Freeview ones, or mention Freeview at all in their press release. TVPlayer largely has the Freeview channels plus some extras, but not all the Freeview ones are present. I imagine there will be some financial incentive to stop TVPlayerPlus being available on the platform. later... (time passes) http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160129005301/en Hmm, maybe it will actually have a DVB tuner in it, I'm very confused now!

29-01-2016, 23:57	#13
East Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GLASGOW Posts: 702	The new NOW TV box would be very welcome in Freeview Light areas if suggestions are correct in previous posts. It could also compete with Talk Talk to a certain degree.

30-01-2016, 07:29	#14
cornish Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: kernow Posts: 273	the Now TV Smart Box will be a "hybrid" streamer that offers "linear and streaming services through a single device." Sky will be the first Roku partner to combine a streaming service with traditional (Freeview) TV channels. http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/29/s...-tv-smart-box/

30-01-2016, 08:23	#15
Mickey_T Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,425	They should add 50Hz support to the boxes before anything else.

30-01-2016, 09:10	#16
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	If they use TV player, will you have to watch an advert everytime you want to change channel? If so it's a non starter in my book. What is 50 hz support by the way?

30-01-2016, 09:33	#17
artesea Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lincoln, UK Posts: 345	I believe it'll be Freeview for the FTA channels so you'll still need an aerial. However it is possible to watch TVPlayer on NOW TV right now if you are willing to sideload my app. No ads, but also no Plus. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B78...p=docslist_api

30-01-2016, 09:50	#18
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Quote: Originally Posted by artesea I believe it'll be Freeview for the FTA channels so you'll still need an aerial. How pointless! I can't see a single use for that. Maybe connecting it to a hdmi monitor without a tuner but how many people will that help?

30-01-2016, 11:25	#19
artesea Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lincoln, UK Posts: 345	Quote: Originally Posted by swb1964 How pointless! I can't see a single use for that. Maybe connecting it to a hdmi monitor without a tuner but how many people will that help? EE, TalkTalk and BT have all found that customers are willing to use dual purpose boxes.

30-01-2016, 11:27	#20
speedyrite Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 229	Quote: Originally Posted by artesea I believe it'll be Freeview for the FTA channels so you'll still need an aerial. However it is possible to watch TVPlayer on NOW TV right now if you are willing to sideload my app. No ads, but also no Plus. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B78...p=docslist_api Will your app work ok if side-loaded onto a Roku 2?

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30-01-2016, 11:36	#21
artesea Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lincoln, UK Posts: 345	Quote: Originally Posted by speedyrite Will your app work ok if side-loaded onto a Roku 2? Yup, but this is the easier way https://my.roku.com/add/arteseatvp

30-01-2016, 11:41	#22
speedyrite Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 229	Quote: Originally Posted by artesea Yup, but this is the easier way https://my.roku.com/add/arteseatvp Even better! Thanks.

30-01-2016, 12:12	#23
ovbg Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,348	Quote: Originally Posted by swb1964 How pointless! I can't see a single use for that. Maybe connecting it to a hdmi monitor without a tuner but how many people will that help? Sadly, many will like this. Most people find changing HDMI ports too difficult, so having it all mixed into one, Now TV may hope it keeps people on their HDMI #1 port.

30-01-2016, 12:23	#24
1andrew1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,981	Quote: Originally Posted by ovbg Sadly, many will like this. Most people find changing HDMI ports too difficult, so having it all mixed into one, Now TV may hope it keeps people on their HDMI #1 port. Agreed. By having to select source to get Now TV, some Freeview users would be deterred from accessing it. I wonder if the Now TV remote control will be able to replace the TV remote?

30-01-2016, 14:12	#25
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Does the Roku 4 have a DVB tuner? If not, it seems a lot of expensive customisation to go to for relatively small gain?