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Motors TV gone from CH71
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Digi Man
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“So what does that mean? Suspect down to EPG costs or are they making the move to a spot beam and freesat?

Doesn't sound good though does it?”

Doubt it's down to EPG costs, more likely they've sold their Sky EPG slot.

It'd be nice to see it appear on Freesat if it continues.
clewsy
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by Digi Man:
“Doubt it's down to EPG costs, more likely they've sold their Sky EPG slot.

It'd be nice to see it appear on Freesat if it continues.”

If they have done this. Could they then get an HD EPG slot and join the sky subs club?
clewsy
25-02-2016
Well doing a bit of reading round and seems from some suggestions that Motors TV are not happy at the way the big broadcasters are treating them.

Could this be a move to try and get a better deal from them, or is it a clear move to a whole different market? Could work if it cuts the broadcast fees and they can invest back into programming.
Richardcoulter
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by Digi Man:
“Doubt it's down to EPG costs, more likely they've sold their Sky EPG slot.

It'd be nice to see it appear on Freesat if it continues.”

Perhaps they have cashed in on the value of their EPG slot as you say.

I wonder if this could be a way to rid themselves of the contracts for FTV encryption on a PE beam?

If it temporarily 'closes', maybe they will return to Sky as a FTA HD channel and join Freesat too??

It's odd that they are still transmitting off the EPG and on Virgin Media though.

I guess it will all come out in the next few days...
clewsy
25-02-2016
You guys probably know more about this than me.

Is only broadcasting cheaper than a satellite? Ie. If you suddenly get loads of viewers , you will need bigger servers and bandwidth allowances I'm guessing - which makes me wonder if this is a cheaper method or not?

For example take that Freeview Channel. Say they pay £1 per hour, per viewer. If a show gets 100,000 viewers then thats just £100,000 for one hour of TV. Seems expensive to me so maybe they pay less per viewer on that connect service?
Anthony_Simmon1
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by ds_reader:
“Mr mouse analysed this issue and came to the conclusion it would be down to your CRAP tv, rather than an arqiva issue.”

Mr mouse ( whoever that is) is wrong!! My TV is perfectly adequate along with my surround sound and have no sound problem on any other channel. It never had this issue on ch71, only ch240. Not that it looks likely to be broadcasting much longer anyway!
brillopad
23-03-2016
Motors TV gone on CH 240 - showing test card and clock.
kasg
23-03-2016
Originally Posted by brillopad:
“Motors TV gone on CH 240 - showing test card and clock.”

Well, colour bars rather than a test card, but either way it's considerably more exciting than Motors TV
clewsy
23-03-2016
Is this another fall out they have had? I thought they were promoting the 240 channel as their Freeview offering?
clewsy
23-03-2016
They are silly in many ways. They have a fairly loyal target market and they don't seem to even respond when they point issues out.

The feed is loading but basically going to a test card. Has Motors moved TP on the sat feed?
Richardcoulter
24-03-2016
Originally Posted by brillopad:
“Motors TV gone on CH 240 - showing test card and clock.”

In another thread, it has been said that a Testcard and clock on an IPTV channel often means technical problems- so there may be hope for the channel on Freeview yet.

Originally Posted by clewsy:
“They are silly in many ways. They have a fairly loyal target market and they don't seem to even respond when they point issues out.

The feed is loading but basically going to a test card. Has Motors moved TP on the sat feed?”

It hasn't moved as far as I am aware.

I do agree that they seem to be messing their UK viewers about at the moment.
pzboyz
28-03-2016
Any news on this, I am seeing the test card like image and Motors TV not replying to tweets either.
clewsy
28-03-2016
There is one tweet from Freeview saying something like "they have temporary suspended broadcasting".

If this is the case, what it means who knows?

Is it Aquiva who provide the IPTV service? If so are their rival providers who could set them up a stream cheaper? Just thinking is this another case over contracts and getting the price down?

It must be costing them a fair bit per viewer as its hard to believe how many people are complaining and must watch this channel on Freeview.
eladkse
31-03-2016
https://uk.motorstv.com/get-motors-tv

Quote:
“Dear Motors TV UK viewers,
Motors TV UK is no longer available on Freeview (channel 71) and Youview (channel 240). We experimented with these platforms to provide additional avenues for showing Motors TV coverage in Britain. However, for various reasons this supplementary service did not match either our expectations or those of our partners, which led us to cease broadcasting Motors TV UK on these platforms.
Motors TV UK remains available to viewers throughout country on Sky channel 447 and Virgin Media channel 545.”

That's all folks!
popeye13
31-03-2016
It took them how long to let people know!!!!!!......

Originally Posted by eladkse:
“https://uk.motorstv.com/get-motors-tv

Quote:
“Dear Motors TV UK viewers,
Motors TV UK is no longer available on Freeview (channel 71) and Youview (channel 240). We experimented with these platforms to provide additional avenues for showing Motors TV coverage in Britain. However, for various reasons this supplementary service did not match either our expectations or those of our partners, which led us to cease broadcasting Motors TV UK on these platforms.
Motors TV UK remains available to viewers throughout country on Sky channel 447 and Virgin Media channel 545.”

That's all folks! ”

peter_sharp1uk
31-03-2016
Rather odd when the arqiva website boasts that adding Motors tv via streaming on Freeview boosted the audience by 400%.
clewsy
31-03-2016
Yep clearly something else is behind this decision. Guessing cost, as seems strange they made this decision after pushing people to 240.

Maybe it's too expensive to run when you have large numbers tuning in via IP and too expensive via Com7.
Hacker Harrier
31-03-2016
I'm very grateful that Motors TV did trial Freeview. Motors should have stated more clearly that it was only a trial. Not informing viewers that they were ending the service beforehand was amateurish, and pretty poor in my opinion. Arqiva and Freeview customer services seemed to be left in the dark too.

It's also a minor blow to the World Endurance Championship, as they would have shown the 6 hour races live again on Freeview.
clewsy
31-03-2016
I don't believe it's just a test. Look how they told Freeview it was "temporary stopped broadcasting".

Also look at the Aquiva email - makes our their are issues between the two.

This isn't just Motors pulling the plug as such.
Hacker Harrier
31-03-2016
Clewsy go to: https://uk.motorstv.com/get-motors-tv and look at the grey text box on the right of the page there. Motors TV tried out broadcasting on the Freeview platform for a year and a half, and it didn't work out for them, for reasons undisclosed. So they've now stopped transmission on Freeview channel 240.

They are still broadcasting on Sky and Virgin Media cable. I'd love them to return someday, but you can't have everything.

Also see - http://www.a516digital.com/2016/03/f...pril-2016.html
clewsy
31-03-2016
Yes I know but that is their take on it. It's clearly not all that it seems and I would suggest people read and take such statements with the PR spin they are meant to have.

It's great they appeared. However something isnt right as Aquiva in their statement inply. This statement appears to have been published to stop people asking questions about where the channel is.

The viewing figures basically x4 when they went on Freeview from past data.

But maybe cost of broadcasting compared to ad revenue means it's better to shrink down in size?

They really should look at some form of online broadcasting.
eladkse
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“Yes I know but that is their take on it. It's clearly not all that it seems and I would suggest people read and take such statements with the PR spin they are meant to have.

It's great they appeared. However something isnt right as Aquiva in their statement inply. This statement appears to have been published to stop people asking questions about where the channel is.

The viewing figures basically x4 when they went on Freeview from past data.

But maybe cost of broadcasting compared to ad revenue means it's better to shrink down in size?

They really should look at some form of online broadcasting.”

The timing of it just after their temporary Sky disappearance suggests to me it's very much a financial decision. Am I correct in understanding that they've lost a number of series this year as well?
clewsy
31-03-2016
Originally Posted by eladkse:
“The timing of it just after their temporary Sky disappearance suggests to me it's very much a financial decision. Am I correct in understanding that they've lost a number of series this year as well?”

Well that seems hard to tell. They haven't been quick at saying what they have, however guess it will all be last minute stuff.

The sky issue was suggested as being maybe down to not paying for their slot on time? That's what some are saying for the reason why sky do this removal.

Remember that statement sky gave "motors TV choose not to broadcast on sky anymore".

Then back it came.

Maybe there is hope something similar could happen as clearly from the Freeview outcry it was much larger than the sky outcry.
Hacker Harrier
31-03-2016
Digital terrestrial television has limited bandwidth compared to Astra satellite or digital cable tv. Arqiva seems to have no shortage of broadcast customers for the terrestrial TV channel slots. Sky and Virgin have a vested interest in not losing subscribers/potential subscribers.

I understand that this may be a bargaining ploy, but doubt it will work with Arqiva. I am happy to be proved wrong, of course.
clewsy
31-03-2016
Agreed there with the bargaining tool and how it is unlikely to work.

Aquiva don't need Motors TV, unless they are the stand out client from the IP broadcast method. Then maybe they are some use in attracting others to the potential of IPTV.

Of course any discount would be small if at all.
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