So James Whale replaced Julia Hartley-Brewer today. I ttuned into the first hour and a bit of the third hour. I listened to the first hour for so long because I was interested in what the guest had to say. That interview was very long, and although it was better than it would probably have been had it taken place in the evening, James Whale seemed to be all over the place. He wasn't giving his guest much time to answer questions. Afterwards, it was the turn of Ken Livingstone. Then the hour was up and they moved on to binge drinking. I didn't listen to that hour, but I listened to a bit of the final hour, when the topic was achieving integration through the swearing of an oath of loyalty. I didn't listen long enough for the listener contributions.