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Yep I'd be for that too, before talkSPORT went all sport, [I'm sorry I meant before they went all the top six of the English Premier League] Mike Graham was my favourite talkSPORT presenter doing the overnight show by himself.
Yes it was half filled with oddballs and fruitbats but I enjoyed it, for me they could just bring in Mr Parry for the Fridays 10 minute Porky Quiz and have Mike similcasted solo across both stations too. |
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I wonder whether significant advertising has been delayed until the saturation promotion of Virgin is over? I'm no advertising expert but maybe it would be unwise to advertise both stations at the same time?
Someone phoned up last night saying that he discovered the station after seeing one of the big billboards with George Galloway on it. A previous poster asked about the cost of advertising: a full page in the Daily Mail would come in around £35k, £300 per week for each billboard. |
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I agree with the comments about not shelling out a fortune in advertising until the station finds it's feet. Looking at the traffic figures for the talkradio website it seems to be getting a healthy flow mainly from talksport but also digital spy and wikipedia. This figure is steadily growing day by day which would suggest a general rise of interest and therefore increasing amounts of listeners. I do stand by my statement that it was a huge mistake not to have a free phone number, at least initially for the first year or two just to get the ball rolling. It does not give off a good image of the station having a presenter continually plug the number with virtually no phone calls coming through. It's like shouting out 'is there anybody out there' only to be met by complete silence! They really do need to give anyone tuning in for the very first time a feeling that things are going great with a healthy hive of activity around each show.
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Whoever designed the websites for talkRADIO and Virgin Radio needs shooting they really are awful looks like a 12 year old has done them for a school project or something. Even the Virgin Radio one has barely any information about the various presenters. I know you could just use google but wouldn't it be nice to give some background to the people who are effectively the stars of the station. The whole design is dire with only basic information like the programme schedule and how to listen it is absolute rubbish.
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You have got to be joking!
If Howard Hughes is browsing this thread I'd make one very definite plea - DO NOT ever even entertain the idea of having Derek Acorah on the Unexplained under any circumstances. If there is so much as one misguided individual out there who genuinely believes him and his "Sam the spirit guide" drivel then I'd suggest a visit to a mental health unit promptly. Fit for trashy entertainment purposes only, but when you hear vulnerable people, some bereaved, call in like they did with James Whale and be exploited by such individuals then it crosses the line for me. You mention Americans. This is one aspect I do take issue with the Unexplained and the podcasts over. There is a very heavy slant of American guests. Why is it that so much of this kind of stuff originates from the United States and rarely from the vast majority of the rest of the world? Just because I listen to the Unexplained and enjoy most of it doesn't mean I am a conspiracy theorist or believe most of what I hear, I'm not and I don't. Did we go to the moon? Yes, of course we did so six times. Did alien's land at Roswell in July 1947? I rather doubt it, despite some seemingly compelling shows that have guests who attempt to present a good case. Is that really a face on Mars? Absolutely not. Poltergeist? Don't believe it, and so on. What I am is a critical thinker and sceptic. But that's not the same as a conspiracy theorist. I listen to a great weekly podcast from the United States by a quite eminent panel of people that has been going for the past 11 years called The Skeptics Guide To The Universe. Each lasts about 90 minutes, and they are seriously worth a listen. They are available for free off iTunes. Brian Dunning's weekly Skeptoid podcast is a good listen too, and is just about 15 minutes each time. He has hundreds on iTunes from recent years and has attempted to totally rebut such things as Roswell and also the Rendelsham Forest army base UFO at Christmas 1980 and so much more - he reckoned the "UFO" was a nearby lighthouse along the coast! Fans of Howard's Unexplained might like to check them out. ![]() With this in mind I have very very little patience for any of Howard's nonsense. I used to find James' show a lot more tolerable but perhaps that's because I was younger then. |
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Reading through richtea's and blighty's comments made me laugh 'of course we went to the moon 6 times'. How do you know did you go there yourself and see it with your own eyes? How can you be 100% sure about something you haven't experienced yourself and only got your information through the media and other peoples testimonies? It's only your point of view I accept that I'm well aware a lot of people are blinkered and not able to see both sides of an argument. Just like people who are religious they believe something that is written in a book is fact and it really happened. Who knows what has happened in the past unless you was there personally you do not know for a fact what the truth is. Scientists reckon the universe is so many millions or billions years old they haven't got a clue, how do they know did they time it with a stopwatch? Seriously I'm anti-bullshit I can smell it from a mile off, I only listen to Howard Hughes because I'm open minded and like to hear alternative theories and make my own mind up whether it's a load of tosh or whether there could be some truth to it.
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Out of interest I tuned into Anna Williamson's show and surprise surprise no calls despite the subject being about dating experiences and her giving out the number several times. I could imagine that would normally get a few people wanting to divulge what had happened to them but no there was not a single taker. Maybe it's the lack of listeners maybe it's down to the expensive number who knows. If they would of had a free number at least you would know it wasn't because the call would cost a listener an arm and a leg, it's simply because the show is atrociously bad. Their producer who earns god knows how much a year and whose job is to go on a laptop and tap away at the keyboard couldn't turn up for work because apparently she had a bad bout of the flu. Yeah right nothing to do with it being a Saturday night and she maybe fancied going out on the piss. Anyway my forecast is Anna's, Bob's and Howard's shows will be replaced in time because I don't think they are really cutting the mustard. Iain's show is going to be the most listened to, Paul Ross's, Jon's, & the Gould brothers will be doing fairly well. Julia Hartley-Brewer and Sam Delaney not so well and The Two Mikes/Extra Time maybe a dozen listeners only because they tuned in by accident not realising they can listen to it on talksport's live feed instead.
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There is one reason to listen to the Two Mikes (or any of the simulcast shows) on talkRADIO instead of talkSPORT. The talkRADIO stream was upgraded to 48 kbps during day 1 whereas talkSPORT remains at 32 kbps.
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There is one reason to listen to the Two Mikes (or any of the simulcast shows) on talkRADIO instead of talkSPORT. The talkRADIO stream was upgraded to 48 kbps during day 1 whereas talkSPORT remains at 32 kbps.
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Out of interest I tuned into Anna Williamson's show and surprise surprise no calls despite the subject being about dating experiences and her giving out the number several times. I could imagine that would normally get a few people wanting to divulge what had happened to them but no there was not a single taker. Maybe it's the lack of listeners maybe it's down to the expensive number who knows. If they would of had a free number at least you would know it wasn't because the call would cost a listener an arm and a leg,
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Somebody posted on here that TalkSport's number is more expensive but they get lots of calls.
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Is there something about talkRADIO only being on DAB, too, in terms of the very limited number of calls?
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Reading through richtea's and blighty's comments made me laugh 'of course we went to the moon 6 times'. How do you know did you go there yourself and see it with your own eyes? How can you be 100% sure about something you haven't experienced yourself and only got your information through the media and other peoples testimonies? It's only your point of view I accept that I'm well aware a lot of people are blinkered and not able to see both sides of an argument. Just like people who are religious they believe something that is written in a book is fact and it really happened. Who knows what has happened in the past unless you was there personally you do not know for a fact what the truth is. Scientists reckon the universe is so many millions or billions years old they haven't got a clue, how do they know did they time it with a stopwatch? Seriously I'm anti-bullshit I can smell it from a mile off, I only listen to Howard Hughes because I'm open minded and like to hear alternative theories and make my own mind up whether it's a load of tosh or whether there could be some truth to it.
It's all about evidence in the end. As I previously said, I consider myself a sceptic and critical thinker on many issues. I don't instantly take the facts I'm fed and accept them at face value without thought. But you have to come to an opinion in the end on things. I'd be fascinated to know what a moon denier would finally accept as absolute proof beyond doubt of the reality of that happening for instance? A lot of people who hold this fake moon landing thing really have a very strong view in their own mind. You could surely therefore make the same case against them in reverse about how they could know without seeing it first hand. You could apply the same principle to countless other things. Looking forward to Howard's latest show tonight, which might provide some points for discussion maybe, although I really hope he doesn't neglect his great podcasts too much in the meantime because in this fickle world of radio who knows how long this radio show may or may not last. |
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Is there something about talkRADIO only being on DAB, too, in terms of the very limited number of calls?
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I'm happy to be open minded, but not to the extent that my brain falls out of my head and rolls off!
![]() It's all about evidence in the end. As I previously said, I consider myself a sceptic and critical thinker on many issues. I don't instantly take the facts I'm fed and accept them at face value without thought. But you have to come to an opinion in the end on things. I'd be fascinated to know what a moon denier would finally accept as absolute proof beyond doubt of the reality of that happening for instance? A lot of people who hold this fake moon landing thing really have a very strong view in their own mind. You could surely therefore make the same case against them in reverse about how they could know without seeing it first hand. You could apply the same principle to countless other things. Looking forward to Howard's latest show tonight, which might provide some points for discussion maybe, although I really hope he doesn't neglect his great podcasts too much in the meantime because in this fickle world of radio who knows how long this radio show may or may not last. ![]() It's the same for me I make my mind up depending on the evidence I've seen for both sides of the argument. You can never be 100% totally sure about something unless you personally have experienced it yourself, people can make things up sound clips or video evidence can be faked. But you can make a reasoned judgement based on what you know and I suppose gut instinct as well. Very much looking forward to Howard's show myself, I do hope it survives the inevitable chop of shows that aren't really cutting the mustard. |
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Is there something about talkRADIO only being on DAB, too, in terms of the very limited number of calls?
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There will be a big test one day this week when Iain has a "first time callers" show. The majority of the callers so far have phoned him up on past stations so it will be interesting if there is much response. However, some may still have listened on past stations and not yet phoned up so it isn't a definitive test. The ultimate test is to have only callers who have only started to listen to him since he started on talkRADIO.
Jon Holmes doesn't do a phone-in, but has no problem getting people to participate in Lonely Lunch and meat/no meat competitions. Maybe he also benefits from transfer from Radio X. |
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The motoring show now has a special ending for the Sunday repeat, introducing Kath's show.
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There will be a big test one day this week when Iain has a "first time callers" show. The majority of the callers so far have phoned him up on past stations so it will be interesting if there is much response. However, some may still have listened on past stations and not yet phoned up so it isn't a definitive test. The ultimate test is to have only callers who have only started to listen to him since he started on talkRADIO.
Jon Holmes doesn't do a phone-in, but has no problem getting people to participate in Lonely Lunch and meat/no meat competitions. Maybe he also benefits from transfer from Radio X. |
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The motoring show now has a special ending for the Sunday repeat, introducing Kath's show.
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Wonder if the bosses suggested that just to test the water to see how many listeners are willing to phone in that aren't die hard fans of Iain's. Is it still be the case that they will call back to limit the charges?
Iain always says they will call you back. Calling back is normal on other stations as well, or at least it always used to be, as it means that producers can pick and choose what callers they want and avoid tying up the phone line with callers waiting on the line for ages. That means getting called back is a bit of a lottery at busy times. I don't think stations are that interested in keeping people on the phone to generate call revenue. When I phoned Iain last Friday I was phoned back straight away, then "Id" (Ed, the more junior producer/tech op on Iain's show who also works on Jonny & Ash's show) said he would phone me back later as they had just started a round of iPod Roulette which takes quite a bit of time. |
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I'm happy to be open minded, but not to the extent that my brain falls out of my head and rolls off!
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I'd be fascinated to know what a moon denier would finally accept as absolute proof beyond doubt of the reality of that happening for instance?
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There will be a big test one day this week when Iain has a "first time callers" show. The majority of the callers so far have phoned him up on past stations so it will be interesting if there is much response. However, some may still have listened on past stations and not yet phoned up so it isn't a definitive test. The ultimate test is to have only callers who have only started to listen to him since he started on talkRADIO.
Jon Holmes doesn't do a phone-in, but has no problem getting people to participate in Lonely Lunch and meat/no meat competitions. Maybe he also benefits from transfer from Radio X. |
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I'm sure Iain mentioned that at the start of Friday's show?
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Possibly helped by talksport having over 3 million football hungry listeners tuned every week, who can't resist phoning the show and putting the presenter straight about [insert a top premiership team here] because they are usually talking out of their arses.
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Is there something about talkRADIO only being on DAB, too, in terms of the very limited number of calls?
. It would be interesting to see what impact putting TalkRadio on TalkSport's AM frequencies between 9 am and 1 pm for a week or longer would have in terms of call numbers. |
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If Howard Hughes is browsing this thread I'd make one very definite plea - DO NOT ever even entertain the idea of having Derek Acorah on the Unexplained under any circumstances. If there is so much as one misguided individual out there who genuinely believes him and his "Sam the spirit guide" drivel then I'd suggest a visit to a mental health unit promptly. Fit for trashy entertainment purposes only, but when you hear vulnerable people, some bereaved, call in like they did with James Whale and be exploited by such individuals then it crosses the line for me. 
