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Old 27-04-2005, 14:18
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I am not very technically minded. I can manage Sky+ but this MP3 thingy is bugging me. My brother makes MP3's for me as he has loads of music. I decided it was time to learn how to do it by myself. I ripped music (albums) into windows media player and tried burning them into mp3's using Nero. The thing is on the discs by brother does theres 140+ songs. on mine that i did last night and again this morning theres 70. his MP3's last for ages and mine is only 3 and a half hours long? Do I have to change my settings anywhere? I am using a DVD-RW (1 x speed, 4.7GB capacity).

Sorry if i am in the wrong forum but i'm completely flummoxed by this technology.

Thanks for any help, in advance.

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Old 27-04-2005, 14:44
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There are two ways of putting mp3's on to dvd/cd. If you make a Data CD nero will copy the mp3 file across (normally around 3-4mb). What I guess you may be doing is creating an "Audio CD/DVD" which converts them into larger files (70-150mb per track) so most CD players will play them.
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Old 27-04-2005, 15:00
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Originally Posted by Paul Bland
There are two ways of putting mp3's on to dvd/cd. If you make a Data CD nero will copy the mp3 file across (normally around 3-4mb). What I guess you may be doing is creating an "Audio CD/DVD" which converts them into larger files (70-150mb per track) so most CD players will play them.

Surely a normal cd player will not play an Audio DVD disc?? or will it?
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Old 27-04-2005, 15:17
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Originally Posted by on the air
Surely a normal cd player will not play an Audio DVD disc?? or will it?
I had a dvd sent to me from aguy in Holland, I sent him a load of Luxy tapes and he converted them into mp3 and the dvd he sent back had 70 hours worth but will only play in my computer, even though my hi-fi plays mp3's, not sure how he got that much on there?
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Old 27-04-2005, 15:17
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Originally Posted by on the air
Surely a normal cd player will not play an Audio DVD disc?? or will it?
No it won't. The disk formats are very different.

In all probabiity the answer is simply the respective bitrates of the mp3's.

Sounds to me like the two brothers are encoding the mp3's at different rates. For example one could be using 128Kb and the other 256Kb. Fairly obviously the 256Kb files are going to be twice as large as the 128Kb ones. Hence only being able to fit half as many on the same size of disk and it follows that the playing time will be halved as well.
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Old 27-04-2005, 15:21
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Originally Posted by drmer
I had a dvd sent to me from aguy in Holland, I sent him a load of Luxy tapes and he converted them into mp3 and the dvd he sent back had 70 hours worth but will only play in my computer, even though my hi-fi plays mp3's, not sure how he got that much on there?
Quick bit of maths shows that 70 hours of mp3's at 128Kb will fit into a 4.7GB DVD with a bit to spare.
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Old 27-04-2005, 15:27
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Well done that man. But it's pretty useless if all i can do is play it via the computer.


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Quick bit of maths shows that 70 hours of mp3's at 128Kb will fit into a 4.7GB DVD with a bit to spare.
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Old 27-04-2005, 15:35
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Originally Posted by drmer
Well done that man. But it's pretty useless if all i can do is play it via the computer.
Need to find a DVD player that can play mp3 audio I guess Looks like this one does.
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Old 27-04-2005, 15:47
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So how come my hi-fi a technics which plays dvd's and mp3's won't play this 70 hours dvd I have?
I do have a panasonic dvd recorder it's a DMR-E55 if that means anything? but won't play it either.


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Need to find a DVD player that can play mp3 audio I guess Looks like this one does.
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Old 27-04-2005, 16:12
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Originally Posted by drmer
So how come my hi-fi a technics which plays dvd's and mp3's won't play this 70 hours dvd I have?
I do have a panasonic dvd recorder it's a DMR-E55 if that means anything? but won't play it either.
Looking a bit closer at the specs of some of these machines it appears they only play mp3s from CDs not DVDs.

BTW who at Pansonic had the brilliant idea to put a badly scanned in copy of the DMRE55 manual on their website
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Old 27-04-2005, 22:21
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I recently bought my son a PSP(Playstation Portable) which has only a 32Mb memory stick.Even downloading tunes from Imesh and copying them to the memory stick fills it completely after just 5 tunes.
Is there a way of compressing MP3 further,or has he to waste £40 on a 1Gb memory stick?
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Old 28-04-2005, 09:44
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You wont fit many more tunes on a 32MB memory stick than that without the audio sounding appalling.
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Old 28-04-2005, 11:31
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Originally Posted by phelings
I recently bought my son a PSP(Playstation Portable) which has only a 32Mb memory stick.Even downloading tunes from Imesh and copying them to the memory stick fills it completely after just 5 tunes.
Is there a way of compressing MP3 further,or has he to waste £40 on a 1Gb memory stick?
As a very crude guide to how much audio you can fit onto any storage device.....

CD quality -- 10MB per minute
mp3 @ 128Kb -- 1MB per minute
mp3 @ 256Kb -- 2MB per minute

So your 32MB memory stick can store just over 3mins of CD quality audio, 16mins of mp3s encoded at 256Kb or 32mins of mp3s at 128Kb (very roughly)

(I'm assuming here you did mean 32 mega BYTES not BITS as posted - upper case B for BYTES lower case b for BITS, all very confusing )
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Old 28-04-2005, 23:00
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32MB.
He was very much looking forward to the much touted MP3 playback of the PSP,so this will annoy him.Its a pity Sony don't let you know that if you want to use it as an MP3 player that you need to shell out more cash.
Looks like he will have to save up for one of those 1GB memory sticks
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Old 30-04-2005, 23:06
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Went into Windows Media Player and made all my downloads into MP3's then i went into Tools - Options - Rip Music and adjusted the speed to the slowest. Took my time but not too vad for an old bird who didnt even have an electric typewriter when she went to school!!

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