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Darcyprincess
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by reader123:
“Brilliant Darcy, the voice of reason.

Actually, if you have a look at the original footage on the show, it was in fact Gemma who told Tiffany first that nobody wanted her in the house. Gemma was sitting with Jeremy in the bathroom and so was John, but it was Gemma who said it first.

Some people say they will never forgive John, but he did not actually say it first it was Gemma.”

Thank you reader,

Yes there was so much screaming and shouting and Tiffany was off the scale with rage, didn't she actually get a warning that night too? But it just annoys me how some people like to rewrite the script and make out that John is the bad guy but he is no different to most of them that have said things behind people's backs but certain people seem to like using John as a scapegoat!
David166
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by reader123:
“What?”

I reading that as like "Girl". Phonetically, in an Essex way it could be hard to spell...... I hope I'm right!
DiamondDoll
02-02-2016
Dr DD here...

I prescribe chill pills all round.
sheils1
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by AA2009:
“Why do people suddenly like STephanie? She seems like the most annoying person alive.”

I like Steph, i think shes been entertaining.
exodus2u
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Tiff wasn't exactly innocent either, let it go, they BOTH have.

You sound like Darren.

As for Steph, John likes her, but she drives him bonkers.

I like her, but she drives me bonkers an' all, she can be very annoying. The hms are only human.”

You sound like you let go of a lot of stuff Is no one allowed to criticise John? People are permitted to make observations. He didn't argue when Tiff had him the bathroom saying how manipulative he is. This was before Gillian turned up.
reader123
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Thank you reader,

Yes there was so much screaming and shouting and Tiffany was off the scale with rage, didn't she actually get a warning that night too? But it just annoys me how some people like to rewrite the script and make out that John is the bad guy but he is no different to most of them that have said things behind people's backs but certain people seem to like using John as a scapegoat!”

I agree, he is being used as a scapegoat by some on here. But BB have also done a good job of making him the villain this year. But I actually don't think it will bother him as he has a very successful career and he has his fee for his mum's care, so no wonder he said he had already won.

I would like him to win, but if he doesn't I wish well as he is such a decent bloke.
MaggieMcGee
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by reader123:
“I agree, he is being used as a scapegoat by some on here. But BB have also done a good job of making him the villain this year. But I actually don't think it will bother him as he has a very successful career and he has his fee for his mum's care, so no wonder he said he had already won.

I would like him to win, but if he doesn't I wish well as he is such a decent bloke.”

I agree completely.
momentarything
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by reader123:
“I agree, he is being used as a scapegoat by some on here. But BB have also done a good job of making him the villain this year. But I actually don't think it will bother him as he has a very successful career and he has his fee for his mum's care, so no wonder he said he had already won.

I would like him to win, but if he doesn't I wish well as he is such a decent bloke.”

I'm actually pretty impressed by how much they got some to dislike him, given that he's only done a couple of 'major' things wrong.

I doubt he'll care at all but I'd like to see him come in the top 3 at least.
Miriam_R
02-02-2016
I know people can change their minds, but where has he sudden love for Tiffany come from?! At one point he wanted her out of the house, now he almost looks like he loves and respects her. I think his change has come since she keeps staying snd the cogs have been turning. I'm probably being cynical, but I get the impression he's going down the 'keep your enemies close' route. Either that, or he realised how wrong about her before when he wanted her out and is making up for it by being her ally.

I would pref he outstays Darren and Scotty T though, as the better male out of the remaining three.
snickypoo
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“That's nonsense, he's had Tiffs back for the past two to three weeks and you only have to hear what she says about John to know this. They both respect each other and have a mutual understanding!

As for Steph he has done everything in his power to help her and advise her but she has ignored it. He's been like a father to her in the house and now he's at the end of his tether with her. I don't dislike Steph, in fact I quite like her but she is messy and hard to put up with in the house. Darren was running her down the other day for ruining people's clothes and Scottie obviously cannot stand her either so why pick on John?”

I think John has been Tiffany's only 'true' friend in there for weeks, I think it's some of the other's i.e Gemma & Dani who were making more effort with her after realising how popular Tiffany was with the public.
reader123
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by momentarything:
“I'm actually pretty impressed by how much they got some to dislike him, given that he's only done a couple of 'major' things wrong.

I doubt he'll care at all but I'd like to see him come in the top 3 at least.”

It is surprising what a couple of selective edits can do,lol. But also people seem to forget the stirring that Gemma has done in the house against John, she encouraged Megan to go further with her rant, she also kept whispering in Darren's ear about John's nomination of him,and would not let it drop even Darren eventually cottoned on to what she was doing.

I just think that yes, they have all bitched in there at some point, but John I think has been given the title of the villain when he does not deserve it.
Lily Darling
02-02-2016
I wonder why John made such a goof to-night? Maybe he forgot or maybe he's a hypocrite.
Although I don't blame the hms for not playing strip poker, John said he wouldn't be naked on national TV or wtte. John has already been naked in the show. Early on in the series when some of the hms were in the bedroom, the camera moved to John for a few seconds and he was naked and about to put on his pyjamas. This was on LF Tonight he made it sound as though it was something he just wouldn't do. Being naked on TV is being naked on TV regardless of the circumstances.
reader123
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Miriam_R:
“I know people can change their minds, but where has he sudden love for Tiffany come from?! At one point he wanted her out if the house, now he almost looks like he loves and respects her. I think his change has come since she keeps staying. I'm probably being cynical, but I get the impression he's going down the 'keep your enemies close' route. Either that, or he realised how wrong about her she was and is making up for it by being his ally. I would pref he outstays Darren and Scotty T though, as the better male out of the remaining three.”

I think in the house things move a lot quicker than out here. Tiff and John worked out their differences and he was not the only one who wanted her out either, he just got the crap and bad edit for it. I also think those on the forum saying John is up Tiffs backside is nonsense as what really would be the point in the last week? John says he knows he will not win, he knows others are popular so it does not really make any sense for him to do that. No Tiff and John are good friends and Tiff was quoted as saying John is going to be the one she misses.
Skyrah
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Lily Darling:
“I wonder why John made such a goof to-night? Maybe he forgot or maybe he's a hypocrite.
Although I don't blame the hms for not playing strip poker, John said he wouldn't be naked on national TV or wtte. John has already been naked in the show. Early on in the series when some of the hms were in the bedroom, the camera moved to John for a few seconds and he was naked and about to put on his pyjamas. This was on LF Tonight he made it sound as though it was something he just wouldn't do. Being naked on TV is being naked on TV regardless of the circumstances.”

what goof
Skyrah
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by reader123:
“I think in the house things move a lot quicker than out here. Tiff and John worked out their differences and he was not the only one who wanted her out either, he just got the crap and bad edit for it. I also think those on the forum saying John is up Tiffs backside is nonsense as what really would be the point in the last week? John says he knows he will not win, he knows others are popular so it does not really make any sense for him to do that. No Tiff and John are good friends and Tiff was quoted as saying John is going to be the one she misses.”

This was posted on Twitter last night:

11.57pm: @TiffanyPollard is saying she's going to REALLY miss @mustbejp. "I can't lose my Johnny" she tells him. Hugs all round. 💗 #BBUKLive
los.kav
02-02-2016
I was more irritated with Scotty saying he dislikes Steph, telling her to play Go Drown in the Pool, putting her up for eviction, then hugging her during the eviction and telling her she'll be safe. Not to mention the whole having a girlfriend ("allegedly") that he posts photos of on the internet, while castigating Steph for having a boyfriend and a romance in the house, while dry humping/making out with Tiff and having a showmance with Megan.
sheils1
02-02-2016
Oh dear Gemma calls John an ass hole.
detroit city
02-02-2016
Gemma calling him an arsehole and being moody and bringing the house down
gelefsky
03-02-2016
Originally Posted by los.kav:
“I was more irritated with Scotty saying he dislikes Steph, telling her to play Go Drown in the Pool, putting her up for eviction, then hugging her during the eviction and telling her she'll be safe. Not to mention the whole having a girlfriend ("allegedly") that he posts photos of on the internet, while castigating Steph for having a boyfriend and a romance in the house, while dry humping/making out with Tiff and having a showmance with Megan.”

Wow. That's one burn right there. Best summary I've heard of Mr T
guenevere
03-02-2016
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I will fourth it. Johns my winner!”

I would prefer Steph to win, but I wouldn't be averse to John winning either.
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