Yes I couldn't agree more with you but I cannot see Steph winning, had she been more honest and not been all over Jeremy early on after saying how much she loved Sam, cried about missing him but was cuddling and kissing Jeremy all the time and changing her mind like the weather saying she was still marrying Sam but then snogging Jez and being vulgar, talking about her bush, shaving it and being wet down there. What sort of girl does that when she has a boyfriend watching her on TV? It's just disgusting, she would have been thought more of if she had respected her boyfriend and not got up to her antics with Jez until she got out of the house. She even called herself a slag for goodness sake!

I think that Tiff or Scottie will win and she will come third or 4th, no better!

How did you get that. From the post you were quoting?

He made no reference to the genders, but to the stated seriousness of the relationships when entering the House.

Stephanie, like several other housemates including Darren, John, Daniella was in a serious, committed relationship where marriage was being discussed.

Scotty, and it seems tiffany, have a casual relationship with somebody who are happy to live with them shagging around on TV as it is part of their Reality TV persona.

That is a massive difference.

If Darren or John had come in and done it, been cuddling up to a housemate whilst first declaring their love for their Husband/wife and then dumping them on TV before dealing with it face to face, they'd be getting the same condemnation - at least from me.

Equally, if Steph had come in saying "well i am kind of seeing someone but he knows the game, that i have to flirt or even get off with people for reality show storylines", i imagine most people wouldn't have termed what she has done as cheating.

Hence i can't be bothered there all 2 face then best friends say no more

great summation of everything
will it work ?
probably not ;

can't believe they've not gone crazy from cabin fever by now

Someone who talks so much sense Kitkat

Ah well if I didn't,t have to go to work in a few hours I would summon.up virtual beer and pizza and continue the craic but sadly it's goodnight from ne

Give it 5 minutes and they will

see ya anne

might still be hunting on sky rewind for John being nasty

Goodnight no hard feelings just difference of opinion sleep well

Your be there all night, tomorrow night and the night after then good luck may the force be with you

I think she'll be 3rd or 4th as well. I think Danniella and Darren will go before her.

I really, really want John to beat her, even though i'm sure he has no chance of winning.

Thing is, re the thread title, it isn't even really the cheating that makes me dislike her. It is her general attitude and seeming to be sl selfish.

As an example, woe betide Jeremy if he hasn't got a holiday sorted out to whisk her away on at the weekend. She seems to be sure that is what is going to happen. With no thought as to spending time with her family or properly sorting things out with Sam. When scotty mentioned her family, it was just "they'll be there at the final, i'll see them". That's okay then - you've got to see them to make you feel reassured that you are loved supported, they're proud of you but what if they need time with you for their sakes? Doesn't even occur to her?!

Just one of many, many examples.

They are just people. On the telly. Sweet dreams

Yep, i'm thinking of going back through it all at the weekend too. I've rewatched yesterday's live fee three times and still can't see what he is supposed to have done so wrong other than be slightly snappy in his vocal tone but then Steph had just interrupted a conversation he and tiff were having to change the subject onto her.

no they're not
they've taken up too much of my energy and time
so none of the HMs that I dislike can win
or i'd have wasted hours of my life talking about them

What it comes down to, is that they all have bitches about each other in there. 4 of them took it like adults on the chin, 2 of them pathetically threw their toys out the pram like children. Either that or they were trying to create drama for the cameras. Either way, they both look pathetic to me.

Jeremy told her they needed time apart to sort things out when they got out. He didn't tell her they were going on holiday immediately. The girls either deluded or has selective hearing.

Its all about her, first place i'm going is Dublin, then holiday with Jeremy shes so annoying she thinks shes in "love"


May the force also be with you, i'll eat my hat if you find a anything on John

And obsessed

The stuff going on with Jeremy isn't the reason I really dislike Steph. She is 22 years old but behaving like a crazy child seems to be ok. Sorry, can she not vote, legally get married, drive, have sex - all the other things we ask of an adult in this day and age?
She has no respect for other peoples' belongings.
She has no cleanliness which is pretty unpleasant.
She doesn't seem to do her fair share of household tasks and seems to wait for her clothes to magically return to her freshly washed.
She's a massive over-actress with her fake laugh, the lion king rant, the multiple stupid tantrums.
She turns very nasty when she drinks.
She seems to discount everybody else's feelings, doesn't seem to realise that other people might be important too.
She absolutely can't take any form of criticism or advice - whether it's given to her nicely or nastily (obviously most people wouldn't take nastily given advice, but many in the house have tried to take her to one side to have a kind word)
She's just drama, drama, drama and it must be exhausting to be around

no> my comment was to the FM who's now retired to bed ! who i challenged to find something on John ( not me trawling through the HL shows!)

Stephanie's already planned their itinerary once she's out the house,
he's probably watching thinking how he's going to slack it all off a bit and take a breather from her, as that's what he told her and Emma, that they both need time apart ,
that may be wishful thinking by him

Yes. I agree with all that !

He's got no chance lol

She is 100% not thinking like that at all, Jeremy needs to be careful this could get messy for him she seems obsessed with him ATM run for your life Jeremy and don't look back