but she only does her face the bit that shows , layer after layer
It's like she thinks she at Glastonbury and doesn't need to wash anything

But she's only 22. Just in case you wasn't aware of he fact.

Christopher or Darren put them on the table i think.

John examined the particulars, gave his graphic description and then went all interrogation mode.

No he didn't, he went into 'bitchy silly DRESSING room mode'.

He's a dancer ffsk, do you know how flithy awful back stage dressing rooms can be? All that 'own it', was just backstage bitchy banter.

He didn't know whose they were, or cared, it was just a bit of stupid, ewwww, horror.

And probably not an unusual occurrence in his world, especially in his youth. He's probably had to 'own' some pants himself.

It was the women who went into REAL bitch mode, John was terrible, but not personal, and didn't attack Steph deliberately.

He also wasn't even involved in the washing shaming by putting on the table, he was passing by.

I don't like how he acted, I thought he was peurile and silly, but he wasn't alone and he wasn't the MOST to blame either.

Just another 'thing' to beat him with. Get a sense of perspective.

Ok.. Spin whatever narrative and fictional dancer stories you want, but You can't dance around the issue that John loaded the gun (loyal old Darren and Scotty T provided the bullets) in that situation to humiliate and shame Stephanie in a public arena.Tiffany twigged it was his doing and confronted him, yet he denied what he did. His manipulations have worked though, didn't they? You are all, gleefully, having a right old bitch about 'dirty' 'skanky' Stephanie.
Well I have nothing more to say and don't want to keep you from the objective of this thread...I'm feeling a bit nauseous in here.

No he didn't . I don't even like the pompous prat , but he didn't "examine" any knickers. He looked at them from a safe distance . As any human with decent hygiene would .
Jezza was the one who did CSI examination of them , holding them up within inches of his face 😷. No wonder jezza was so comfy doing that , he's probably well used to sniffing round her grubby knickers if the recent duvet action is anything to go on .

She is a slag!!!! the bit that made me laugh last night was when she said "i have a clear conscience i can sleep at night" ok love you keep telling yourself that.

She is a vile, fake spoilt, selfish, immature child!! The fake laugh is starting to grate on me as well shes an awful person.

I'm spinning NOTHING. I'm a bit familiar with that world.

Darren has a wife and daughters, why not have a go at HIM?

John denied deliberately going out to humiliate Steph, and that was actually TRUE.


Tiff saw an opportunity to confront John for air time and also because she thought at the time that Johnny was or MIGHT be, playing some deep GAME, (as she is, I'm not critisizing her here). The knickers were a SIDE issue, that much is obvious.

That conversation failed to go as Tiff wanted because John wasn't PLAYING Tiff's game.

He handled her magnificently, and she handled herself magnificently, they were BOTH sparring and jousting and trying to UNDERSTAND each other and their roles and relationships and their relationship with each other.

And THAT was when I started to respect Tiff, she couldn't FACE Johnny and carry on the game, and he was determined to be real in a way she could understand and take.

I gained huge respect for Tiff as a person by watching that conversation. That's when I realised she didn't buy into her own hype, that she was clever and a player, but a HUMAN being underneath that, who understood how complicated it was here.

John didn't want to hurt Steph, he wasn't thinking, but that wasn't his object.

And it isn't JOHN'S fault over knickergate that Steph is being seen as skanky, I'm afraid.

It's the fact that she STILL hasn't washed herself or her clothes and is in borrowed pyjamas which is her CHOICE.

Don't take that choice away from her. Now that would be patronising. She has to learn to OWN her own choices.

she'd already cheated on her long term BF who she lived with fgs
and already asked Jeremy on National TV if he liked his b*lls licked
and shown the HMs her hairy 'Mary', to which Jeremy said he'd already SEEN IT

Not to mention her and Jeremy pleasuring eachother on National TV with their moaning and groaning and "is it in" comments leading to the other HMs not being able to remain in the same bl**dy room as them

anything John did is least of her worries regarding PUBLIC HUMILIATION and SHAME as she's had total loss of respect for herself and her family watching this show > , dignity she does not have and has not had all the way through

Reality check needed, something she's oblivious too as she hasn't taken responsibility for anything she's done, she just constantly tries to deflect her behaviour for what she's done by blaming others for there's ,>nice try , but hasn't worked with me, i'm watching her and commenting on what i actually SEE going on and being honest about it and putting it into perspective

John making a somewhat silly issue about her dirty knickers would not have been an issue in the first place had she cleaned up after herself and actually had some selfrespect and respect for others living in that house !

I don't want to be insensitive but does Stephanie have a slight speech defect?

yes she talks too much .

I don't know, I go into some great rant and these two posts undercut me entirely.

Laughed my head off

Stephanie really isn't a very nice girl

I agree, but I don't find her as uncouth as Tiffany, imo she could do with washing her mouth out with soap.

23 next month.

I think it's a tongue piercing that causes that.

Really I've never heard Tiffany talk about "licking balls".

How many of her former workmates on Hollyoaks have come out in her defense? Out if interest?

For all the people saying Steph hasn't washed ,you are all just being Silly now ,Of course she's had a wash ,she has a Shower everyday ,same as everyone else in there

Bloody hell it was only the other day when 'Jumpergate' went down ,that she was saying you could've just told me ,instead of nicking it back whilst I was in the shower ....So all this Steph hasn't washed Nonsense ,is just That Nonsense .

Well I'm grateful to know that.

She refused the bath, which suggested she hadn't washed. She has also been wearing Darren's pyjamas now for quite a while.

And hasn't done her washing, as far as I know. And her hair looks bloody awful.

I agree, Steph made such a big thing of speaking to her dad but it's obvious she doesn't care that much about them if she just wants to fly off somewhere straight away with Jeremy. Steph really does come over as a very spoilt brat that just likes getting her own way and has a tantrum when she doesn't! I just feel so sorry for the other housemates, they must feel exhausted with her constant drama!

She refused the bath ,John told her to have as it was really Relaxing ,cos she didn't want to wear a Bikini ,Showers different as they go in with nowt on in CBB due to having no cameras and blacked out screens etc

Think she's done her washing once Rhumba ,when she was half heartedly swishing them round in the water last week ,just after Jeremy left ,

To be honest I'll be glad when it's all over as ,the whole lot of them have been irritating me the last couple of days even when they're doing nowt But i'm determined to stick it out now after I've suffereded this Long

According to Now Magazine last week the Hollyoaks crew are out for Towie blood

You seem to be missing the point of Steph putting these skanky knickers with discharge in with other people's washing. Any normal lass of her age would have been embarrassed to do that and would have gone and washed them separately so nobody saw her dirty knickers. This proves alone how disgusting Steph really is and just how lazy she is too! How many people have moaned about her dirty knickers and clothes on the floor. She is just so damn unhygienic! So don't blame others for her disgusting behaviour!

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